I'm not narcissistic, and I didn't "fail" at anything. Your refusal to act in good faith is not my failing.
What you’re contributing to this entire space is not healthy or positive.
You don't deserve "healthy or positive" - and rewarding you for abusing me will only encourage you to abuse me more. You have to be punished until you stop; until you think differently. Your resistance to my parenting is not my failure.
I don’t care much for retribution. I prefer what’s effective.
Retribution is the only thing that's effective. No one will improve themselves if you simply ask - it has to be against their free will.
A big part of that is limiting unnecessary harm.
This I agree with - but as you said we disagree on what harm is unnecessary and what limits unnecessary harm.
People have accused me of everything under the sun, including causing earthquakes. You people think I'm an "abomination before the Lord".
You also appeal to the discrimination minorititized groups face, as if I’m not a member of those groups? Most people in this community are queer, but I’m personally a brown, neurodivergent trans woman. On top of doing well at discrimination bingo, I’ve also suffered from debilitating mental illness for most of my life. I’ve required medication to function since I was 11, and I’ve spent years of my life resisting the urge to off myself because I didn’t want to make other people feel bad.
Then why aren't you allying with me instead of fighting against me? Fighting each other helps no one except the very bastards who enslave us.
I know exactly what a straw-man argument is - and I know people like you use them to blame shit on me (or "me") all the time.
I never called you a name. I never lied to you. You are throwing out accusations without realizing everything we’ve said is written and visible to outside verification.
You, the individual, do not count. Someone called me names, someone lied to me, and everyone else agreed, at least passively, to not punish that behavior.
That defines the social norm that people can call me names and lie to me, forever.
Noting is stopping you from lying to me and calling me names except your laziness. Which is not a sign of morality.
You are so desperate for something but you don’t know what.
What I am "desperate" for is for you assholes to stop treating me like the "other" and start acting in good faith towards me. But you can't do that because your identities are tied up in your narcissistic ideas of "strength"; you literally cannot live with yourselves if you treat me as an equal. You have to see meas infinitely "beneath" you to run away from your own narcissistic insecurities.
This is exactly what my therapists told me you people do and why you do it. I just want to be treated like a normal human being but you all literally believe you'll stop existing if you give in.
I’m still living, bud. I’m still making connections, bud. I’m still loving people, bud.
Then you're a fool, and you deserve the punishment you will inevitably receive. One of your connections WILL staab you in the back, and you will die painfully.
You deserve to be betrayed.
It's not just me - what I'm describing is bigotry, and it happens to people of color, most women and most LGBTQIA2+ people. Do you deny that the species of narcissists exclusive of them are denying them a life free of pain?
while also assuming that people make sure you cannot be happy in particular. You’re not that special.
Not only have I never made these assertions, the entire point of me arguing is to force you people to internalize that I AM NOT SPECIAL - TREAT ME LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN YOUR SOCIAL CIRCLE!!!! You and your friends are not special either - you all keeping me out of your social circles is exactly the narcissistic behavior I'm talking about.
Finally, I don't need to make "assumptions about everyone’s beliefs and intentions" - you people aren't exactly shy about those. You all didn't murder Trayvon Martin and Brandon Teena because the were like you - you all murdered them because they were different. You have no reason to not also murder mefor the same reason; I am not special - you all have to murder me for the same reason you murdered them. There's no meaningful difference between me and them.
Neither way is “right” or “wrong”.
I cannot disagree more.
“Right” and “wrong” is determined by comparison to physical facts or objects. Ideas are "wrong" if they disagree with reality.
I think you would be happier if you tried to look for good instead of bad, but as you’ve stated, that’s not a goal of yours.
I have looked for good - I spent my entire life looked for good. My inability to find "good" isn't due to a failure to search, but due to humanity's failure to produce. You half-ass "good" and demand I lower my standards, all the while constantly increasing the standards of how you want me to be despite never being able to live up to those same standards. You demand the impossible from me twice - you demand that I am perfect while also demanding that I accept absolute dogshit neglect as "good".
While I’m not asking you to abandon your point of view, I think you should realize that there is a reason why your viewpoint is not very popular; it seems that you’ve had negative experiences that have caused you to become cynical about human nature but here’s a rough analysis of the numbers: the fact that most people are not that cynical is evidence that most people don’t have it that bad. People aren’t wrong to believe in good human nature when that’s what their experiences reflect. They’re coming to conclusions in the same way you are, just the other way around.
I'm not failing to see any of this. What you're failing to see is that this imbalance of condition wasn't an accident - people engineered things to be this way. Their positive experiences was paid for with my bad experiences; they were paid for with my blood. They had those good experiences because they externalized the costs of those experiences onto their prey. They divided the world into those inside their social groups and those outside their social groups so they could farm, enslave, and prey upon those outside. That's why social groups are so exclusive - they can't be all-inclusive because then there would be no way to pay for those experiences.
But I hope that you find more positive experiences in the future that might change your mind.
Nothing can change my mind now. And people can't let me have any good experiences without losing all of theirs.
You probably won’t find it on Lemmy.
I sure as hell won't find it in real life, where people like Brandon Teena and Trayvon Martin get killed simply for existing.
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