I met the author... a guy who wrote the script for one of the pictured movies. He was doing stand-up comedy on a cruise ship. He said yes, they are all terrible, but there's a certain audience for them and they're quite profitable.
He said I want you to think of me when you're forced to watch one of these. I want you to know who is responsible, and that I'm very sorry.
They probably cost next to nothing to produce, so even a small audience will make them profitable.
I wonder, if you could just cycle through the same 5 movies without anyone noticing.
They have two movies that are the same exact movie but told through two different main characters point of view. Same scenes and everything.
It's actually an interesting idea on paper. And Hallmark is probably the perfect way to do something like that.
Hallmark red and hallmark blue. There are certain characters you can only get through trading with someone who watched the other film
None of them are interesting in practice, but the idea of two versions of a movie being filmed at once sounds like it could be cool. And if successful, would be almost twice as profitable as one.
The idea worked out pretty well in "To every you I've loved before" and "To me, the one who loved you".
I somehow doubt Hallmark did quite as good a job of it.
They are definitely lower budget than 'normal' movies. But even as a low budget it still requires all the same production staff, camera, sound, editor, crew park staff, food services, wranglers, casting etc. The cheap part is unknown actors and not a lot of travel. Source: my wife has done background work on many movies and TV shows. As background they get paid to sit until call time. so scene maybe half hour, but all the background people waiting get a full hourly pay and all the food you want while waiting. You will notice on hallmark they zoom in tight so background is barely visible, this helps not having a large set of background people. in one movie at the mall they had my wife shopping and walking back and forth. it works for the scene but if you watched it closely you would notice the same lady in every scene carrying different boxes or bags.
So in other words capitalism is providing a product for an audience that wants to spend money for that product? Oh wow
My mother and sister fucking looooove these movies, despite how low effort cookie cutter they are. My favorite game while they're watching is "count the POC." The last one we saw together, I got to 1.
I love to just have them on, in the background. These movies are self-aware. The Netflix equivalent has its own universe with internal references to each other, which includes fake countries, maps, etc. I'm no joke invested in the Netflix Christmas-verse or whatever the fuck.
Hallmark is a little less fun to watch, but still quality rubbish. Everyone knows it's over the top. The actors, producers, and writers are all in on it. I'm not saying that makes them good. They are still bad. But when you watch them knowing the content is almost intentionally cringe, it's a bit better. With a slight shift in perspective and perhaps a bit of squinting, you can see the Christmas overtures as nothing more than satire. Last year, one movie just threw in a vague reference to Santa. No beard. No glasses. Just a guy who wore a red coat and occasionally would get 1-3 seconds on camera breaking the fourth wall. He had like one line. No gifts. No reindeer. Never interacting with the Christmas Couple. Just essentially an old dude in red. To me, that's the height of humor. It's like they're just wafting a single sprig of holly over the film in the editing room. I crack up every time.
The Hallmark movies are mostly filmed in one of the whitest basic beige towns in British Columbia. It would be difficult to find someone. They do have an east Asian population but it's small.
If they ever need a black guy on set for whatever reason, give them my info
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they would never dare disrupt the cash cow with gays or queers, or atheists or 'non christians', or a realistic portrayal of a poor or homeless person, or too many brown persons.
Wealthy socialite Human Woman had it all, ceo of the top you feel bad magazine, house on top of building and even a tiny enslaved bark beast, the only thing Human Woman was missing was a chemical reaction.
Human Woman receives a electrical waveform, Human Woman's Human Grandmother mush box has stopped, Human Woman emigrated in moving iron box to original location, meeting Human Man also from original location, chemical reaction happens and Human Woman And Human man become human Couple
You might enjoy "A Christmas Movie Christmas", where the protagonists wake up and find themselves as the protagonists in a Christmas movie reality. It's a comedy where you basically laugh at the troops while they call themselves out on it.
[Playful jokeness] The... troops? Whose military is invading Christmas-movie-land :o
Here’s a script idea:
Suzy Citygirl has to plan the perfect Christmas pageant or Bernard Bigbiz will fire her from her job at the Joyless Inc. Little does she know when she gets sent to Tinytown, Vermont on business she'll meet Matty McSmall town. He owns the struggling local tinsel factory and needs to sell enough tinsel by Christmas or else his grandma won't be allowed to have the surgery she needs to remove the tumor from her holiday spirt gland. Matty is also single dad that was widowed by a freak tinsel lathing accident and the little girl loves Sally Citygirl from the beginning and secretly helps her dad see past his pain.
With minutes to spare in the Christmas pageant/tumor deadline Suzy convinces Mr. Bigbiz to buy enough tinsel to save the Christmas pageant AND remove grandma's tumor! But after throwing the perfect pageant she realizes Mr. Bigbiz is a terrible boss, and moves to Tinytown permanently. She falls in love with Matty, and gets a job at his tinsel factory. With her big business skills the struggling tinsel factory grows three sizes that day.
Mr. Bigbiz is ruined. He realizes the error of his ways and comes to Vermont to apologize. Now he too works at the tinsel factory, and loves life now. But don’t forget, throughout the movie the cast interacts with lovable bearded old man who may or may not be Santa, because wtf, why not?
You missed the best series of nonsense Christmas movies:
- Time for Me to Come Home for Christmas
- Time for Her to Come Home for Christmas
- Time for Him to Come Home for Christmas
- Time for You to Come Home for Christmas
- Time for Them to Come Home for Christmas
Yes these are legit hallmark movies.
So we're still waiting for "Us" and "It" before we crack into the non-binary-centric pronouns, which we obviously won't.
It's the Thing, loosely disguised as one of the main characters from the previous movie but the plot works like groundhog day. Every misstep it makes ends in it dying to a flamethrower as it's forced to comply with Hallmarks demands.
And it's always some woman that lives in the same town her whole life. The man either just moved back or is new to the small town
Or, small town girl moved to the big city, returns to small town and sees that man iN a NeW LigHt
Ive got hundreds of these damn movies on my Plex server specifically because my wife LOVES this crap.
I'm convinced we have a Family-Guy-Manatee-Ball-Pit situation going on here. There's less balls to choose from, but damn if I haven't seen "save family business with a last minute impromptu charity event spurred on by the handsome dude from her past who posseses some talent" 100 fucking times.
They aren't usually direct plot copies, they just have identical pieces that get moved around so they can factory farm these bitches out.
You forgot the person the protagonist is currently involved with who is a puppy-kicking narcissist. Source: my wife loves these movies too.
He also forgot the silly, but loveable sidekick best friend of the romantic interest who is irrelevant for the whole movie, but helps to save the day in the end (and sometimes gets it on with the very serious sidekick best friend of the main character).
Source: my wife loves these movies too.
Fun game: see how much of the set is used in other movies. Most of the Hallmark movies are made on the same set in Atlanta so some will share little things like the same staircase or same exterior of a house. Hallmark reuses more than just the plots!
There's an episode of South Park where they go to the writing offices of Family Guy for whatever reason, and instead of actual writers, they have an aquarium tank full of manatees and plastic balls with words on them.
The manatees would bring the balls to the top of the tank, few at a time, and the staff would use the words on the balls as prompts for their new jokes/episodes.
The manatees had integrity, if you took a ball out they’d stop making jokes.
The hallmark writers don’t give a shit.
If you're on PTP check out the collection "Christmas Movie Posters with White Heterosexual Couples Wearing Red and Green"
There's about 300 movies there matching this description. I'm sure your wife will love it.
They look a lot like the identikit romance books my mum would read. Even she didn't know which one's she'd read before. Be like three quarters of the way in and then go "oh, I've read this".
Pretty sure ChatGPT could create those things by now, such is the limitless array of imagination on offer within.
They don't need anything nearly as complicated as GPT LLMs . They already generate these scripts with a MS Word macro. It's been like that for years.
Once in a while the source dictionary is updated. They sell the scripts in lots of like 20 and charge for any customized work.
I'm certain those books work the same way.
If you can think of a way that reduces work and increases profits. They are already doing it.
Amusing, but every Lee Child book is like that too! Still enjoyed them in a kinda brain-mush way
I know some people like him but Dean Koontz might as well be filling out Mad Libs for all the originality in his stories. They're enjoyable enough for brain-mush but barely even qualify as "books."
Christ I last read one of his in the 90s and thought the same! He must be just smearing wallpaper paste on the pages by now 😂
Not trying to be racist but it's almost always a man and a woman who are both White - and probably a Black side character if they are feeling generous.
They have ones with black protagonists, the white ones just have a few token black people, often for comic relief. This is TV for Karens essentially.
The channel viewership is 99.999% overweight to obese older white women. This is functionally their porn.
If they do have an interracial couple it's always a black man with a white woman. Never the other way around.
gotta get that bbc.
British Broadcast Corporation - they'll sure give Hallmark a run for their money.
My husband absolutely adored these because they were wholesome with no gratuitous sex or violence. He was a conservative Christian and these were some of the few shows he could really enjoy unreservedly. (I doubt he would have been pleased to see a gay story, though. He's not around to ask, unfortunately.)
I find them predictable and banal. But to each his own. He would watch a Hallmark movie in one room and I'd be in the other room watching Criminal Minds or something LOL
Apparently they have in recent times, my mom stopped watching them because they "started to put the gays in them."
That's their trademark, as soon as you see it you know it's a Hallmark romantic, cheesy, family movie.
My grandmother loves these movies. Some channel started playing them since July and she's basically watched and rewatched all of them by now.
It could be interesting to cut all the movies into even pieces making one movie with the average runtime of all of them and see if it's cohesive.
Im down Too time consuming to do tho lol Maybe I could make a python script or something lol
This is what bland, AI generated crap looks like, folks. But you can still make your own entertainment library. Buy an external hard drive and start a collection of your favorite movies/series (while you still can).
This is what bland, AI generated crap looks like, folks
Except this is without AI, and it's far from the only case. Looks like people really don't need AI to be uninspired, the only thing it changes is the amount of labour put in the generation of that bland crap.
I don't watch these, but they make a lot of sense. I've watched movies sometimes and been disappointed that there are no similar movies for me to watch. If you like a generic Hallmark movie you'll have infinite content.
I assume this was the same for the Harlequin Romance Novels too? I knew a few women over the years that had a bunch of these books. They seemed to digest them like monthly magazines.
In some ways it's sort of a business dream to be able to keep repacking the same nuts and bolts to make something slightly different for consumers who will keep paying. It's pretty efficient.
Still I've not read a Harlequin Romance nor have I seen a Hallmark movie. This doesn't mean I've not seen all of the Star Wars movies or a good majority of the Marvel ones.
Harlequin novels are bodice rippers and basically porn without pictures. Literate ladies are thirsty but want something top shelf to sip on.
"In some ways it's sort of a business dream to be able to keep repacking the same nuts and bolts to make something slightly different for consumers who will keep paying. It's pretty efficient."
Madden. FIFA. Call of Duty.
Friend of mine's dad used to write some Mills and Boon ones, which is the UK equivalent I suppose. We all found it hilarious. Had to sign up for one the '8 pre-approved plots' in advance, and then got paid about a penny a word. You need to be properly cranking out text to even reach minimum wage - it would be easier to work stocking the shelves at a supermarket, quite frankly. But yeah, not an environment that fosters innovation.