That there is an all powerful supreme being that demands our worship or else we will suffer for all eternity after our death.
Yeah. That's the worst.
They used to hang out with flat earthers and earth centrics, but I'm guessing they had to cut out some of the crazy stuff to appeal to larger audience, with the less tangible stuff.
Semantic stop signs, if you like.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FWMfQKG3RpZx6irjm/semantic-stopsigns
Qanon is like a clown car of unhinged conspiracy theories. Every time you think "Wow, that's bananas, what kind of blood lead levels do these people have to fall for this?" they trot out something even more deranged/racist/fascist.
If you work hard and long hours for the company, you'll advance in your career and become esteemed leader and collect rich rewards.
Man! Way to cast a dark cloud over an otherwise lovely morning.
I kid. That's a good one!
I actually think it's those that get so close to the truth, before veering to the right and blaming minorities instead of those who are really to blame (by design of those who are really to blame, of course) - blaming Jews for controlling the banks and the media (it's the obscenely rich), blaming immigrants for poor work conditions/no jobs (it's the obscenely rich), blaming disabled people for being a burden and leeching off the tax payer (it's the obscenely rich), blaming whichever generation is currently in young adulthood for "destroying industries" (it's the obscenely rich), and so on and so on..
I guess they make me angriest because the truth clearly isn't outside of the people who believe the conspiracy's grasp, they'd just rather punch down, solve nothing, but continue to have minor feelings of superiority (which really ties in with the key to all belief in conspiracy theories - "I have special knowledge you don't"), than punch up and actually try to resolve the issues they whine about..
Not quite related to the initial post topic, but "Every billionaire, deserves the electric chair." is a phrase I've been spouting for the past few years. I like to think it's a more extreme version of "Eat The Rich." but probably not as catchy nor as easy to spraypaint onto stuff.
And on the liberal side they do the same thing except conservatives are the scape goat. Super frustrating.
Liberals play along plenty in to the division sown by the ruling class, but lets be fucking clear - conservatives choose to be that way, and are actively and vocally contributing to the problem, unlike Jews, immigrants, disabled people and so on..
Is working class conservative Joe Shmoe responsible for the system and the one who needs to be removed from society? No, they're as much a victim of it (and its brain washing propaganda) as any other working class person, and sure, many liberals fail to see this, but to compare calling out people who choose to actively support open and proud oppressors for their contribution, to scapegoating the people they oppress for existing as who they are, for the problems of society, is fucking gross.
E: seriously, conservatives uphold conservatism - there is no conspiracy. π€¦ββοΈ
Yeah...I guess I just meant that average liberals tend to blame average conservatives instead of the rich (while average conservatives basically blame everyone who doesn't conform to their exact ideals instead of the rich).
Not sure I agree that conservatives can both "choose" to be like they are, and also be the victims of their upbringing in a toxic system. These 2 points you made seem to be contradictory.
I agree many liberals fail to see that the average conservative is also a victim of this system, and that conservatives are brainwashed to think what they believe is a good thing.
I don't think I made the comparison you're saying I made. I'm sorry it came across that way. Calling out asshole conservatives for being assholes is fine as long as it's with the understanding that they don't know any better because the rich have them so brainwashed. And then follow it up by trying to convince them that the rich are the problem, not the immigrants etc. But to stop at blaming average conservatives, without recognizing the rich as the fundamental problem, I think, has the same end result as conservatives blaming everyone that's even slightly different than them... No one points at the rich.
Not sure I agree that conservatives can both βchooseβ to be like they are, and also be the victims of their upbringing in a toxic system. These 2 points you made seem to be contradictory.
Not really.
We are all subjected to the same propaganda, yet we're not all conservatives, that's enough to prove that there is choice involved (even if the choices are limited, and opinions externally influenced by and for the ruling class), but more to the point - no one is born conservative, and no one is forced in any way to support one political party or another, political affiliation isn't something someone can't help or control or change, making it a choice, unlike race, gender, sexual orientation, abledness, place and circumstances of birth, and so on, which are not.
Technically the choice exists for them.... But if they're never introduced to it can they be expected to know it exists? If every single person in their lives... Their parents, teachers, preachers, everyone they see on TV... Only ever feed them the same crap, and any dissent is not just discouraged, but dangerous. I'm not sure they really CAN choose you know? Now, there is a lot of willful ignorance as well... Don't get me wrong. And obviously there's a difference between not knowing you have a choice, and actually not having a choice.
Edit: Archived site
Edit 2: y'all taking the low hanging fruit when y'all know time cube is the most unhinged. If you don't know about how the earth has four simultaneous 24hr days duirng one rotation in sixteen space-times then I don't know what to tell you.
There's nothing unhinged about Time Cube. It's just so obviously true. 4 similtaneous rotations, 4 corner earth days. Circle times square.
Either you need to read it again, or else you're part of the conspiracy of suppression.
Please be careful when making jokes, it may see harmless rubbish, but at least one person committed suicide due to their obsession with this stuff.
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Numerology
They are so unhinged that the doorknob has melted to the floor.
It also seeps into every other batshit conspiracy theory eventually. It's huge in QAnon. If you see a number, pack your bags, it's jover.
1+1 = 2
Do you know what else there were two of? The twin towers. How many planes hit the twin towers? Exactly two. How many times has my wife left me? Only once, but one day I will get the kids back. Fuck you judge McNally
10 digits, infinite bullshit
All the numerology I've see was either in the Bible or a post about some schizophrenic episode online. With how often the mentally ill will think they've found (messages from) God in their formulae and drawings, I'm not even sure if those two are disconnected.
I see shit like this as clear evidence of mental illness. These people are replacing reality with abstractions, and then finding patterns within those abstractions, and then using that to reinform their reality.
The saddest part is there is no math to it, despite the fundamental principles of numerology being dependant on it.
If I was to use numerology to find an answer opposite to what they wanted to hear, then I'm "doing it wrong", even though I'm doing the same dumb shit they are.
These was a guy who lived down the road from me who spray pained 2028end.com onto their car.
It's too bad I moved away 2 years ago, I would have loved to see the car in 2029.
JFK's head just doing that is a conspiracy cooked up by the CIA to downplay their involvement in his head head doing that
That proves we are in a simulation!
The admin just set $Earth_NA_US_POTUS_JFK.Body_Head.explode to $true in the console.
Real commands from a software I'm not telling you
tsenter universe earth/na/us
aq "John F Kennedy"
abpart $_ Head
det
the earth is round, that's obvious if you just go to the beach, but the moon is a flat disk. the back side of the disk is home to a dinosaur utopia that nasa doesn't want us to know about.
The moon wobbles slightly so over time you'll see the "edges" change as the moon wobbles back and forth while still being relatively one-sided. If you'd be persuaded by looking out from a beach you'll probably also take the above as evidence that the moon is round.
It's just clever optics deployed by the dinosaur people to hide the truth of their existence!
there's too much competition for the MOST unhinged... off the top of my head:
It was JFK Jr, and it was very clearly started by a typo the Qrazies made for RFK Jr, which makes it all even better
Flat-earthers, and I see it as the most unhinged for one simple reason:
It seemingly has no -- Stakes?
Like
With every other conspiracy, whether it be related to 5G or Fluoride in the Water or Vaccines or whatever, there is someone who is consolidating a shit-ton of power or wealth through their conspiring, y'know?
But with Flat Eartherism.... ? Like. Imagine you got control of every educational institution. You use it to convince people the planet is the wrong shape. And by doing that you gain.... -- What exactly? It just seems pointless? We know what people do when they have power to manipulate people on that level, because history tells us. And they generally don't bother with the shape of the planet.
The point, for believers, is just to know stuff the sheeple don't and feel superior. It's a smug club, they could have picked anything to be contrarian about. It's unfortunate that they've picked a very measurable thing, so they occasionally self-own with experiments. It doesn't change their mind, though, because being right isn't the point.
To keep us from going to the moon, which is both a projection, but behind that projection is the actual gold reserves.
To keep us from reaching the ice wall, or beyond it, to the outer realms and to the hollow earth(According to my source, it is easier to climb down the outside of the ice wall to reach the hollow earth than to dig through the earth's cortex) (And yes, according to my source, the flat earth is floating on top of the hollow earth).
Oh, and to keep the aliens and the secret elite safe and out of reach. Also, Epstein isn't dead, he was extracted by the powers and moved down there as well, so he doesn't tell anyone about the horrors under our feet.
Source: My nutty aunt.
So are the Ice Walkers on the other side of the ice wall? Those dudes were scary.
Or maybe itβs more Viking Lore Ice Giants. Even more frightening.
Paul McCartney died in a car crash in 1966 and was replaced by a Canadian man the British government had kidnapped for that purpose. After extensive facial surgery he took on McCartney's role and no one noticed it.
Apart from John Lennon who hid cryptic clues to Faul's real identity and the real Paul's fate in the lyrics of famous Beatles songs.
It's true.
The UPS driver for my old office building told me trumps not racist or even appealing to racists , he wants to build the wall because there's an underground supercomputer in Mexico thats going to open a portal to hell and flood the world with demons.
This sounds like something from a Tarantino movie where the demons start pouring in, but there is a fence. Since there are no fences or walls in hell, none of the demons understand it so they turn around and go home.
That I've actually encountered irl? The Anti 1080 conspiracy in New Zealand.
Its members do things like go out and kill protected birds themselves and dump them because they think the Department of Conservation's pest control plan is on behalf of the Illuminati who want to terraform NZ etc.
I've never encountered that theory before. As far as my exposure has been, most opposition to 1080 is based around bykill; the effect of the poison on non-target species.
The scientific evidence suggests that the number of natives killed unintentionally by 1080 drops is more than compensated by the increased survival rates of those who now suffer less predation, but walk into any pub and you'll find half a dozen people throwing out anecdotes about silent forests in the days after 1080 drops.
A lot of them also seem to refer to earlier forms of 1080 etc. Given the "silent seas" I suspect what this is really about is a sort of folk response to climate change and ecological collapse.
But the rabid activist ones seem to have linked the "Agenda 21" conspiracies, chemtrails etc with 1080. The covid/5G stuff as well, Sue Grey (antivax lawyer) was mixed up with the ban 1080 movement.
Do they say what the Illuminati want to terra form NZ in to? Or is just the threat of any kind of terra forming enough?
It's unclear to me. As far as I can tell they think the United Nations/Illuminati wants to poison the humans, birds, and mammals and ... maybe get rid of farmland? Repurpose New Zealand somehow.
Some of them have physically attacked Department of Conservation staff, sabotaged vehicles, etc. They're passionate about it.
I feel like flat earthers might be the most insane one I'm familiar with - I don't keep up with the conspiracy-verse though.
Dan Olson did a great video on flat earthers. With a mid-video twist on why you don't see as much of them anymore as you used to
Production wise it's one of my favorite video essays
I wish.
In case people don't want to get spoiled: ::: spoiler spoiler The essay theorizes that the people flocked to qanon :::
I feel like like the QAnon stuff swept up huge swaths of otherwise unconnected conspiracy theorists. Flat earth, chemtrails, aliens, all the "classic" conspiracies just kind of got co-opted and folded into the big crazy tent of insane people.
It's kind of a bummer. Aliens and Bilderbergers and Government Mind Control used to be fun little thought experiments to smoke a J and play what-if with your friends; but you can't even bring that stuff up anymore without someone thinking you're serious and bringing up adrenochrome or (((Globalists)))
This timeline sucks, I want to go back to when everyone knew the X-Files was a TV show and fascists kept their brainrot on AM radio.
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Not sure about Finland but New Zealand is often missing from maps which leads me to believe it doesn't exists!
Missouri is unfortunately very real, but we have decided to shun them until 2030, they know what they did
The fast food chain Dairy Queen is different than those branded "DQ". It is not a real Dairy Queen unless it is written out fully and does not use the DQ logo on the store. I will not elaborate further nor eat at DQ. There are still a few real stores in really small towns.
real stores
You say real, I say old. Potato-tomato, tomahto-potahto, let's go have some real snacks.
::: spoiler You know what, you are right. How could I have been so silly? This one is in on the whole thing, don't trust anything they post :::
Id have to go with the jews control everything theory from the racist perspective. They believe that the jews have infiltration top levels of western society for the sole intention of destroying the white race and creating an underclass of mindless golem that they can control.
I really don't get the Nazi belief system.
According to their own philosophy they should be willingly serving the superior race - Jews
The hated minority being inferior but also immensely powerful is a pretty standard feature of anti-minority world views of all kinds. It is pretty much required to justify the extreme actions they want to take against the minority.
:::spoiler I can explain how their nonsense ideology works, but it's really dumb and extremely racist and you might be better off not knowing
:::spoiler Are you sure?
The reasoning goes that certain races are more inclined towards physical strength while being mentally inferior, such that they can't accomplish anything on their own but can contribute if "directed," while Jewish people are the opposite, such that they can understand things and manipulate people, but not build or accomplish anything on their own. White people are supposed to be a sort of "happy medium," not necessarily the smartest or the strongest but smart enough to figure things out with enough strength and gumption to follow through - the image being similar to the highly idealized capitalist innovator, building a company from the ground up with hard work and vision. In the Nazi worldview, white people's fatal flaw is being too moral and kind, which Jews exploit by spreading socialist ideology, and which can prevent whites from taking action and exerting strength. So in the Nazi worldview, Jews control the world only because white people aren't really trying hard enough, and because of that, conditions are declining because Jews only want to take over existing structures and not build anything new.
This worldview is obviously complete bullshit that exists to justify violence (whether organized by the state or street violence) against vulnerable people, because Nazis are cowardly bullies looking for someone to pick on to feel strong. It ignores (or glamorizes) the entire history of slavery and colonialism, and it makes sweeping generalizations about people based on idiotic stereotypes grounded in racist eugenics bullshit.
But it had appeal in Germany because it provided a simple explanation for why conditions were declining, and it allowed people to redirect feelings of frustration or grief into anger and hate - while at the same time dividing the working class and getting people to oppose left-wing reforms that would've eased their burdens. At the same time, it was amenable to existing power structures, because most of the people in positions of power were white, and kept their power in the transition to fascism, while at the same the Nazis could pretend to be enacting "socialist" policies by nationalizing minority-run businesses.
On the one hand, I hate that I even know what they believe, but I guess there's some utility in knowing the enemy in order to better fight them and better predict their movements.
:::
Fuck Nazis.
This is like the master conspiracy theory. Every other conspiracy theory just turns into this one after enough time
These people genuinely believe isreali mossad agents targeting their fourm with a psyops and demoralization campaigns. It's very entertaining to observe.
Thereβs a decent chance that mossad did.
Just like the fbi, nsa,cia, kgb, and all the other alphabet soups
I think people are confusing it with Hollywood. There are many jews in Hollywood and many Jewish traditions are seen in American movies.
My conspiracy theory is that every conspiracy theory boils down to hating Jews, and/or another race of people.
Once you get into the specifics of any conspiracy that doesn't have a plausible motive (the difference between Illuminati doing everything and Cambridge Analitica), you just find a surface level "top 10 reasons I hate people" reasoning.
I heard an interesting grand theory of conspiracy theories. Many people want the world to be well ordered and easily understood in black and white. Alas, the real world is chaotic, unpredictable, and confusing. To bridge that gap, they reach for religion, conspiracy theories, or both. Can't comprehend evolution? The seven day creation story is nice, neat, and simple. Incredulous that humans could develop the technology to get to the moon? Clearly it is a clever Hollywood director.
There was no one responsible for JFK's assassination. His head just randomly exploded on its own.
Nuh uh, it was a body double clone that he operated remotely, and JFK accidentally hit the contingency plan button, detonating a small explosive charge in the skull.