They’re finally talking about replacing Biden
CNN analysts immediately after the debate are saying the dems are pannicing.
lol, lmao, who could’ve seen this coming
CNN analysts immediately after the debate are saying the dems are pannicing.
lol, lmao, who could’ve seen this coming
They lied, browbeat, deflected, slandered, gaslit, and treated with the most sickening condescension everyone who warned them over and over that this would happen. If it weren't for the genocide, this would the purest and most concentrated schadenfreude I've ever felt, cocaine-like in it's tangibility. Now begins I Fucking Told You So Season.
Fuck liberals, they tried to get us to "tactically" support ethnic cleansing to win a fucking election, and they're gonna lose that too! Good going you bloodless sensless freaks, you put on the armband and seig heil'd in front of the whole world for nothing!
They went fully mask off. It doesn't matter, it won't change anything, but they went completely, utterly mask off for this decaying piece of shit. They sold their souls for a Joseph fucking Biden.
The great satan has been ruining everything for everyone everywhere for a lot longer than Trump's been a politician, lib.
Satan doesn't exist.
damn you got us dawg, fantastic comprehension of language you got there bud. Millions of years of evolution in order for us to be able to communicate ideas and you waste all that work on being denser than a golem in a tungsten mine.
Don't you think it's time for a change?
Which is why we should vote for the senile incumbent who is doing a genocide, good argument
Why are you bringing up Trump when the subject is Biden's incompetence? You're bringing up an entirely different point instead of addressing the original point, aka whataboutism.
Yeah your post was saying "what about Trump?" No need to repeat yourself, we all agree that's whate you're doing
There's no difference between trump and biden except for Trump being more crass. I'm sure the children in cages are glad it's a democrat doing it.
Also incredibly funny to write this while children are being jailed for exercising their right to protest. "You guise this is what will happen in trumps America" I snivel as one of Joe Bidens cops beats the shit out of me for daring to protest the construction of a literal cop city.
That'll be of some solace in your dystopian nightmare country with God king Biden ruining everything for everyone everywhere.
hey look, i made your post relevant to right now
I was passed out drunk when you post this and I'm not gonna bother checking the modlog
Eat shit and die you deranged little freak
I'm watching A(ustralian)BC coverage of it and there's a vibe of "he's actually going to lose to Trump." He's failed to pass the bar of "looking functional" and has actually managed to look bad vs a guy who literally just made shit up and started rambling about golf.
Incredible reality TV.
They're only 3 years apart but it looks more like 20 on stage. Biden is the perfect foil to make a senile Trump look full of youthful vitality. Literally could not have chosen a worse opponent from the entire gallery of DNC ghouls to face him. Wait, I take that back. Hillary would still be worse.
replacing Biden with Hil and her losing again would be the funniest outcome, ergo
I’m taking comfort in the fact that they both hated it. Biden’s brain melted and Trump just wants to be home doing literally anything else
They should've let it be open mics. Trump interrupting and shitting on Biden would've been amazing to see live with Biden's capacities.
Yeah I genuinely think it is Joever for him after tonight, I've never watched a debate where all the immediate post-debate coverage chyrons are like "Should Incumbent drop out??" LMAO
I watched most of it, I was honestly worried I was about to see a stroke live. Obviously Trump is a shitbag but I agreed with him in several instances versus what Joe said. Of the few coherent-ish responses Biden literally said our only "sacred duty" is to arm our troops and give them a good retirement. This is what I'm supposed to vote for??
when he walked on stage, his left eyelid and eyebrow were drooping and my immediate reaction was "he's having a stroke live?" never really got away from that impression. wonder which ghoul decided possible brain damage was less important than the debate because lmao.
me putting on the conspiracy theory hat and wildly gesturing like a crank
What if the DNC purposely never wanted Biden but waited until after it was too late for primaries so they can handpick the actual candidate they want at the DNC convention and purposely pushed him to have a debate with Trump knowing that Biden would eat shit?
It's fucking happening.
Jesus fucking christ I've never seen a picture of the man before. He looks like Satan would look in a hollywood drama.
I thought the Dems had fucked themselves by backing genocide Joe but newsome is the one Democratic politician that could actually win. Does it change anything for me. Not really. I'm just here for the show
Whitmer is also good but newsome appeals more to men since America is so patriarchal I'd think he'd have a better chance
His recent meeting with Xi makes me think he might not be as hostile towards China as the other two have been but that’s more likely wishful thinking
Looking forward to half of Hexbear arguing we should vote for Gavin in order to do "Harm Reduction" just like they did last election for Joe.
Please no. I hope we're past that. Please. Please can we just PPB folks like that and ban them and move on.
Respectfully, comrade, nowhere near half of hexbear was advocating for Biden as the harm reduction candidate. There were some posters here and there who might have said that but the overwhelming majority of the site, like 97%, was saying “fuck these guys I’m not voting for either”.
The lanyard nerds would absolutely prefer this outcome (particularly if they're mad at Biden screeching YOU WERENT ELECTED at them when they bring up reality) far more than the possibility of a real primary and having to pull another hoodwink on bernie's old ass a third time
This is how Bernie can still win. His good friend Biden will hand pick him as his successor ::: spoiler spoiler but then he'll lose becsuse none of us will vote for him after he hitched himself to Genocide Joe :::
I’m honestly shocked they’re admitting how bad he was, I was expecting them to do some shit like say that he’s normally cognizant and just forgot to have a balanced breakfast this morning
unrelated but I really enjoy that this is the second hit while attempting to find an emoji related to :experience
Honestly I was kidding. I didn't expect it to come across like I was being serious.
My bad.
The political history nerd in me is honestly finding this really fascinating to be witnessing right now. Seeing liberal pundits saying that Biden needs to step down before the convention, reading all of the articles about it, etc. This might be one of those things that gets talked about in Presidential history 50 years from now, how abysmal Joe Biden was as a president and how his own party could no longer deny how unfit he was to remain as president (4 months before the election lmao).
Probably in the same paragraph as the JFK/Nixon debate as the examples of positive and negative influence of televised debates in American politics.
white privilege is worse for the mind than lead and microplastics combined.
whiteness was invented a few hundred years ago, it can be destroyed.
I understand the sentiment, but shouldn't posterity learn about the evil and hubris of the American Empire/US Presidents?
the textbook is already overflowing with warcrimes lol, maybe they get one of the little notes below a picture on the side of the page
Picture of Trump, text beneath reads "Joseph Biden" because people don't care about the US anymore
a man can dream
History is a necessary part of education and forgetting any part of our past no matter how dark would have a negative impact.
Like they probably don't need to learn the individual presidents but Leon_Grotsky is right like learning how evil what came before was would be a good thing.
Do you think "not teaching great man theory" means you stop mentioning individual people in history lmao. Like does not teaching kids great man theory mean we don't teach them who Lenin is either?
Like obviously socialist history education would focus on historical materialism but that doesn't mean that you start hiding the names of the evil men who did the things that came before. They should learn the names, and learn to spit on them.
I agree! But the children should still be taught about the functionaries of the Great Satan.
This is one of the contributing factors of the USSR, after all. They fell for liberal propaganda about how things work, obscuring the realities of how they actually work under capitalism. All those Soviet academics lauding Peristroika and expecting Russia to join as an equal partner in the liberal order found a very different situation in reality.
If we do not displace this propaganda we will fall victim to it. Teach the children about the realities of liberalism. Teach them about the full violence of the wars and the genocides and the disposession and how every president helped out as best they could, manufacturing consent and creating policy on behalf of the ruling class.
The way the system works can be hard to internalize. It is not great man theory but it is also not just structural forces. Structural forces, the ruling class, effect their interests through people who think it is themselves who are in charge, at least most of the time. It is only when they step out of line that they learn how the system really works, and even then they cling to some self-aggrandizing falsehoods. Every ghoul in bourgeois political office can choose to buck this order and either does not (maintaining their position) or does so (losing their position).
Basically... base and superstructure is something that I think is underemphasized when it comes to the political class. Presidents go in superstructure, of course.
It's pretty hilarious that Kamala's not even in the discussion for the dem nominee, considering she's VP and all.
Kamala was live on CNN about 30 minutes ago with Anderson Cooper. She was trying to save face and Anderson Cooper interrupted her. Anderson told Kamala that Biden's performance at the debate was a disaster and a train wreck.
I'm honestly surprised to see that CNN is negatively covering Biden.
Well, they want Democrats to win, and clearly it's not going to happen with genocide Joe.
They need to bring in someone with a proven track record of standing up to Trump. Like someone who can get people to Pokémon go to the polls.
He has given us a gift more precious than gold. He has taught us wisdom. Now we must take up his sword from where it fell and march boldly forward.
He is blurry only because his return remains below the horizon. Soon, our large son will return
There's video of Jill Biden talking to him like a dog saying like "Who did good and answered all those questions tonight?"
It's so bad, folks. I hate the man, but this is so depressing. It's straight up elder abuse.
Really weird feeling because if he was almost any other human on the planet I'd feel so bad for him. Like my heart would break. It must be a terrifying disorienting tragic experience.
He deserves worse though
I just saw a clip of Biden that someone posted in another thread, and it honestly REALLY hit me. Listening to him flounder and trail off mid sentence reminded me of my dad, who is just a few years younger than Biden.
Except like my dad just wants to chill and read books all day, not enfornce neoliberal hegemony worldwide.
I doubt it too but you never can be too sure, ill keep a closer eye on him next time I go visit
I feel sad in that in another world he could have just been some senile grandpa being cared for by his children. Instead he chose a path that led to this.
Watching some people I know have live meltdowns as they were confronted with the reality of this living corpse as their nominee has been fucking hilarious
Watching them consider if RFK should take over was even funnier
At least two admitting to crying watching Biden's performance. So many talking about needing to get drunk or high to the cope with the outcome of the debate
Most of them are starting to realize that Biden is old and not firing on all cylinders, and that the Democrats are in deep, deep trouble with the election if their candidate can barely sound coherent during the debates. One person quietly said that Biden was making Trump look sane by comparison
Then the debates as to who could even replace him began. AOC? Too young. Bernie? Too radical. Clinton no because the GOP hate her. Harris? Maybe that's why she's been out of the spotlight, so she can take over without any scandals. Newsom wasn't even floated but RFK was
I was pessimistic about the debate, but it was a fair deal funnier than I expected. I think Biden said something about cutting a black child in half.
theres so much we don't even know where to start, the world is overloaded with the potential
At least literally nobody in the Democratic party is to the right of Biden on Israel...
Except...
Oh god they're gonna throw the fourth guy with severe brain damage into the race aren't they, they're going 4 for 4
They were never planning on running Biden in November. If they did joebiden.com would have said what his platform is, and it does not, even now. Gavin Newsom's nomination is imminent, right?
Edit: They actually added the Issues tab today, there is an archive of the site from today without it. Maybe they can reuse it
Four years. Four years to pretend to have a clear platform. I'm tired of people blaming leftists when the president couldn't do a basic homework assignment until he fucked up a debate.
it angers me just to even see this in jest because i unironically think if they threw bernie in thered be little to no issue him winning even with his shit waffling stance on israeli genocide
the people who dont pay attention but vote in just presidential elections are begging for anyone but these two and bernie at least has recognition
It’s amazing to me that democrats can watch a genocide for nine months, and do nothing but make excuses, but one debate with grandpa has them freaking out. I didn’t even watch the debate. Anyone invested in that guy before the debate was just as cooked as he is. I just caught a few clips and spent a few minutes laughing through hexbear’s reactions, as is proper.
It was so bad. I haven't been paying close attention but biden is being elder abused. He looked scared for a lot of the debate. He def deserves it but idk I can't stomach seeing someone hurt.
Elder abuse can go both ways when you have dementia. Everyone says he routinely yells at people and is looking for yes men to fill the vacancies. Biden’s been an asshole his entire life, the mental decline just removes the filter.
The anger part of dementia has no bearing on one's previous temperament. I've seen the nicest people in the world become unruly assholes from the disease. There's a substantial difference in propping up a dementia patient and blaming a dementia patient for the side effects of their disease
You are right. Biden should live in an assisted living facility where qualified elder care workers can give him the care he needs. In an ideal world, such a living situation would also be available to him from the day he is extradited to Palestine and until the sentence of the war crimes tribunal is carried out.
Absolutely, though he will need to stand trial in Iraq, Libya, Columbia, Honduras, Peru among others first. Inshallah he'll die staring at victims of his own brutality
I don't disagree. He should have been shot 2 years ago. Now he needs to be put in a care facility
It feels like yesterday that I was watching him run circles around Sarah Palin in their debate. Mortality is scary.
I found myself feeling the same. I fucking hate Biden but I could barely stomach all the bullshit that came out yesterday. The man is old as fuck, he deserves to be chillin’ enjoying his last days. Not being propped up by a machine to continue their bidding under the guise of ‘the better option’.
It’s so weird how literally nothing changed we learned nothing new but tons of libs coming out of the woodwork for no Biden now. Winds of change are here but obviously nothing good will happen
I was watching with a friend who is pretty left but has a US flag hanging in his house and dank brandon meme coffee cups, before the debate he had an attitude like "oh man Trump is about to get smoked". Ten minutes in he's like "what the fuck is happening" and couldn't finish it, immediately afterwards he's talking about other candidates that they should put forward. It's going to be embarrassing to support Biden at this point even among the libs.
Now I subjected myself to some reaction from "professional" analyst, I kinda think that this was a hitjob and a coup.
Usually, the first "hot" take by analyst on the network hosting the debate is the most important. John King of CNN, right after the debate ends immediately goes on "panic among Democratic party." Then everyone on the panel, Van Jones, David Axelrod, Alyssa Griffin, all took turn burying the shiv, with nothing positive to say. These people are not that brave, and they have been gaslighting people for 6 years (ever since Biden started running in '18 he's been mentally compromised). Same with MSNBC, Rachel Maddow asked Alex Wagner and she immediately also said that the reaction was negative. Joy Ann Reid piled on and said Joe Biden don't have the stamina. The replacement headline then immediately made it to NYT front page, opinion piece, and now repeated by all major outlets. These people didn't went through the denial, anger, bargaining stage, they all within 1 1/2 hr debate go to acceptance in unison.
Nah they’re just hacks, they’re like a herd of deer, one gets spooked and starts running the rest will follow. Unfortunately for Biden that means his campaign is gonna be in cascade failure mode now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdOfiPyY87I
Watch this 1 minute clip
Or, here's the youtube transcript. All the media ones clean up his verbal collapse and make it look coherent when it was not.
We'd be able to help make sure that all of things we need to do, childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person uh eligible for what I've been able to do with the uh with, with, with the COVID, excuse me, with, um dealing with everything we have to do with uh what if we finally beat Medicare?
Wow, Trump actually looked genuinely concerned for a second there when Biden had his petit mal.
Then stomped him. Trump may be a rambling incoherent shit sack, but he's still quick with the insults. Mean old men only get meaner I guess.
And I seriously think Biden has some form of number aphasia going on. He repeatedly says a number confidently, hears that he said the wrong number, then he says (presumably) the right one.
I literally would not have understood half of what Biden said if it weren't for the god-tier closed captioner