When the founder of Hamas had to do a heckin Hamas he was all "I wish I didnt have to see such horror," his mentor was like
“So do I,” said Al-Gandalfi, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
Doing anything for you?
Remember when I was like "It's weird that a lot of movies have villains that had trauma that 'turned them evil' as a trope"
HMMMMMMM
Also liberals read another book I beg you. Reality is not a children's novel.
Remember when I was like "It's weird that a lot of movies have villains that had trauma that 'turned them evil' as a trope"
The thing is, this isn't even true for Voldemort. By the text of the story, he was just Intrinsically Evil™ and even as a child he was always the one hurting bullying other people and not the one being bullied. So this is one of the worst possible choices of villains they could have used.
Yeah
Hot take but I don't think comparing things to movies or books or other stories is a bad thing, libs just have terrible taste and no media literacy so they alway end up cringe
Laughable thing to say when the whole crux of israel is basically "historical Jewish suffering mean israel gets to go ape-shit and that you're an antisemite if you think that's wrong."
Also if you try to justify actual atrocities through the lens of children's media, you should be wailed on with a fly-swatter until you have welts, I'm so fucking tired of that shit.
They did it! They said the thing! Truly this is some kind of supreme lib, an "alpha lib" if you will.
Terry Pratchett is a wonderful author for the younger children/cousins/comrades/anyone with a heart to read. Don't let ya kids read pro-slave, transphobic authors!
Can't wait to become a parent so I can go ballistic on my child's elementary school for reading Harry Potter with the kids.
Tiffany Aching > Harry Potter. All her books are about how the real magic is helping other people and caring for your community.
Harry Potter is just a Wizard of Earthsea ripoff. Feed your children LeGuinn and Pritchett.
Circumstances did not create Lord Voldemort! JK Rowling created Lord Voldemort! How the fuck do these people avoid dying of embarrassment mentioning fucking children's books in serious political discussions???
Obvious Harry Potter aside, the metaphor doesn’t even make sense. Voldemort doesn’t go after Potter because he blames him for anything, he goes after him because of a prophecy.
because of a prophecy
Sooo pretty much the same reason that the state of Israel exists in the first place?
We should start a crowdfund to send libs en masse to Palestine so they can talk to Palestinians about how they're acting like Slytherins when they really should be more like Griffindors. They probably just never thought about it that way. And then Palestine can be partitioned through the 4-state solution, with each state named after a Hogwarts house and only people of respective characteristics may live in a particular state. Israelis will be in Griffindor automatically and Palestinians will be either in Slytherin if they don't condemn Hamas or maybe they can make it to Ravenclaw if they do condemn Hamas, but if they condemn Hamas and are top physical specimens then they can maybe go to Griffindor. Then all the houses, except Slytherin, led by Hunter Biden as Harry Potter will team up for one final battle against Lord Voldemort Putin in Russia and win. Ukraine is the other school with the blondes. This might be the way to peacefully settle the conflicts in the Middle-east and the world.
Jesus, this is how libs think.
We should start a crowdfund to send libs en masse to Palestine
Haven't the Palestinians suffered enough already?
We should start a crowdfund to send libs en masse to Palestine so they can talk to Palestinians
The kind of people who post crap like this would not be affected by this at all.
Oh, sorry, I wasn't sure how it was meant. My bad.
But, no, I post on Twitter about how Putin is like Voldemort.
Harry Potter is a fed
so of course I support Comrade Voldemort in his struggle against British Magocratic imperialism (I have never read the books)
In our terms Voldemort is more like an ethno-nationalist taking advantage of a paralyzed, dying neoliberal structure and how it's already inherently racist. The wizards themselves live in a highly alienated liberal gerontocracy where nothing happens.
The closest thing to leftism is one book where Hermione tries to quite literally organize against actual slavery of elves and the other wizards treat her like a loudmouthed annoyance. Then they tell her elves actually enjoy being enslaved.
House elves enjoy being enslaved, which is why Hermione is annoying and wrong and should shut up.
Harry you've only met two house elves and they were both highly resentful of being enslaved-
Yeah whatever nerd watch me catch the golden snitch with my trustfund broomstick lol does crosschops in midair
Don't forget the third named house elf in the books, who immediately turns into an alcoholic after she gets freed. The movies smartly cut that whole thing out.
I think the Shaun video summed it up best when he said something like "the series frequently threatens to become interesting."
It's just always implying that it could have interesting ideas and complex themes and then it just doesn't.
Me as a kid: "These adults who want to ban Harry Potter are so weird. It's just some books about silly wizards, it's not Satanic"
Me now "We need a turbo NKVD specifically for Harry Potter."
Yeah, I’ll be honest, I’m a sucker for fantasy stuff, so I grew up loving it. However, at this point its doing more damage when you have Disney adults regurgitating it as foreign policy.
The guy who looks like Emperor Palpatine with no nose? I kinda just assumed he was evil for the sake of evil. Look at the dude, black cloaks, all pale and stuff. He's trying to seem evil.
The nose was a congenital deformity he was born with or something. Like not even "he did the evil magic so his nose fell off" just "people with deformities are inherently evil".
I don't remember that at all. He was born as a normal dude, and was a normal looking dude up until he died. It isn't until after he was reborn from some kind of evil ritual that he gets the no-nose form which I'm not even 100% certain is described in the books, it might just be a movie thing.
But no, Tom Riddle, the guy who went on to become Mr. Evil No-nose, had a normal nose as far as I know(s).
I’m embarrassed to know this, but it’s only his first reborn form from the first book that has no nose. He exists as a face stretched across the back of professed quirrels bald head hence the flat nose. There’s no mention of his later forms having this feature in the books, it’s just a movie thing
Uh but anyway you're basically right he was evil pretty much just for the sake of it. Dumbledore had suspicions he didn't act on when they first met, and by the time Voldemort had graduated he had already killed someone (and framed Hagrid's pet for it) in order to split of a piece of his soul for psuedo immortality.
Starship troopers but it’s burning a full set of the HP books before you’re allowed to become a citizen
We say "read another book", but I'm not sure this person has actually read Harry Potter. "Circumstances" didn't create Lord Voldemort. He was basically a kid who skinned cats alive for fun. He murdered someone to make his first Horcrux before he graduated. He didn't even really believe the pureblood supremacist ideology his followers did, he just cynically used it to gather power to himself.
Dumbledore explicitly points all this out to Harry in their last conversation at the precipice to the afterlife (just like how every other mystery in the series is resolved with an authority figure straight up telling the reader what happened). Harry and Voldy were similarly deprived as kids due to a tragedy, then got the same opportunities and education at Hogwarts, and ended up being two completely different people despite their similarities.
perfect liberal conclusion in that it contains an implicit denial of material conditions being significant
In my headcanon Harry is quickly disillusioned by his time in the Wizarding government, and comes to realize the role he played in reproducing the status quo rather that fighting for a new radically equal reality. He graduates right before the global economic crisis and gets radicalized, quitting his job and living in the wilderness making Marxist pamphlets and distributing them via a flock of owls that he has cast magical protection spells on and trained not to let themselves be followed back to the hideout. Essentially the whole thing with Voldemort is like the 1905 Revolution, and then somewhere down the line Harry Potter is the Lenin of the wizarding world's equivalent to the 1917 revolution.
My headcanon is that Dobby's writing spreads like fire amongst the house elves and other oppressed magical peoples, and Harry has his throat slit while asleep with the rest of the magocracy during the opening hours of the War of Magical Liberation.
Genocide by people with agency is circumstances, but resistance by (cough AYrabs cough) is evil.
I've often said that the chance for dialogue doesn't exist; this just reinforces it. You can't talk to people like this, they've got brains made of mashed potatoes.
Isn’t there actually like no circumstances to Voldemort being evil though? Like isn’t it just oh this guy is the descendant of Salazar slytherin so obviously he wants to genocide half bloods?
From what I remember, Dumbledore makes a point of telling Harry that his and Tom Riddle's circumstances were pretty similar, but they ended up completely different.
yeah the other comment that was removed said that the reason given in the book for Tom's evilness is that he was conceived while his muggle father was under the influence of some sort of love potion or dark magic or something.
Fellas, is having parents who love you equivalent to suffering an ethnic cleansing campaign directed at your people?
What's funny is that, actually, this is a really tough one. We need to consider all the nuances.
Even if you're going down to her level, it's going to boil down to riots being the language of the unheard. Circumstances created Voldemort, sure. With some text blurbs from a Google search because I'm not going deep into TERF wizard lore, looks like he had unresolved trauma and wants to hurt people who are like people who hurt him. He's not directly helping some marginalized group harmed by the same people and he himself is no longer being harmed. If he was a more compelling character and, upon being confronted by status-quo-future-cop Harry who's all "stop helping these people" destroys a supply of water bottles you would cheer for Voldemort to kill Harry.
It's far worse. Voldemort exists because of (CW, SA) ::: spoiler spoiler His mum used a "love potion" (date rape drug basically) on his father and became pregnant with him. ::: The lore of Harry Potter is that because he was conceived in this way, he is literally incapable of love or caring about other people. I think this is an important bit of "lore" to consider when this lib talks about "Circumstances created Voldemort." She's really pushing this idea of "evil people being born evil."
It's much more disgusting the more I think about this, probably already put far more thought into this tweet than she ever did before tweeting it.
Harry Potter lore in general seems to have this idea that love is some transcendental magic force that is carried from person to person regardless of their actual upbringing or life experience. Despite being raised by awful abusive foster parents Harry is good cuz his parents he never met loved him and the magic energy of their love allowed him to develop into an emotionally mature and ethnical human despite being raised in such a toxic environment. Same with Neville. Meanwhile if you had mean shitty parents that evil taint of having been spawned by bad people lingers with you forever. One possible exception being Sirius Black, but even he's kind of a piece of shit even if he's on the right side of the wizard Nazi war.
So yeah even if you were adopted by loving supportive parents who raised you right if you had horrible biological parents you're doomed to be a bad person. Meanwhile you can be raised in a dysfunctional home but if your mommy and daddy you never met love you beyond the grave you'll turn out okay.
This is something I've been struggling to articulate. Liberal fiction really does promote birthright goodness except in instances where the entire plot of the story is overcoming one's birth. Teams are decided by who your parents are, even if you never met them.
Liberalism is one big eugenics project with "certified organic" slapped on the front of the box.
I'm going to work on my magic college novel today. I suddenly feel less bad for my rewarded-for-bad-behavior bad guy.
"Yeah, he was born evil and couldn't help it. That doesn't mean we should cheer when he tries to kill good people" is so dogshit. It's like the NPC meme. It's like a denial that other people have consciousness behind their face. It's an inability to conceive that people have different circumstances that breed different conclusions for ethics. It's that "you can either agree with me or be foolish" that takes you™️ up the ladder in a corporation.
Yeah, don't worry about your villain feeling too "flat" or anything, especially if this is a first draft. As long as they have motivation behind their actions, that still puts them ahead of like 60% of all fictional villains.