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Who decided to create a Hexbear dialect here as a mainstay and why? (Things like bazinga)

Words like:

Bazinga:

Slop:

Treat:

Adults in the room doing hard decisions:

New additions: wine cave warriors. (no need to define)

Post hog

PMC Karens (hononary mention)

Possible additions: 'homo economicus'

Wtf is with all of this?

Edit: Ok, so from what I've gathered, you guys are basically a million Progressive podcasts' communities hiding under a trenchcoat that you call a Lemmy community...

homo economicus

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Wertheimer

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"Adults in the room" is an old phrase, but I think the tide began to turn from self-congratulatory to derisive when Yanis Varoufakis made it the title of his book about the Troika condemning Greece to austerity. It's popular here because we have a unified loathing for West Wing-style liberalism that congratulates itself for making "tough choices" that inevitably and exclusively harm the working class.

ashinadash

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A week ago I thought the Hexbear dialect was fully incomprehensible

This week I am saying "brainworms" and "treats must flow" out loud

Please help.

ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider

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It’s a one way street to sounding like you’re doing spun out word association when talking politics

frauddogg

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dw I accidentally slipped a waltuh in one of my other groups

AernaLingus

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Bazinga is Sheldon's catchphrase in The Big Bang Theory--it's emblematic of the "I fucking love science" crowd who value dubious technological achievements over actual political solutions

Slop: don't know the history of this one, but it fits with the pig theme

Treat: also not sure about the origin, but (as someone who has listened to like two episodes of Chapo Trap House) this feels very Matt Christman, but it could also be some Twitter thing which I am blissfully unaware of

Adults in the room doing hard decisions: this isn't a Hexbear coinage, but something liberals have actually said without a hint of irony (just search the Washington Post or the New York Times and you'll surface countless articles about supposed "adults in the room" like Mattis or Tillerson). It was used a lot to describe people in Trump's administration who the media deemed worthy stewards of empire who would steer the administration in the right direction, and is also used to describe the "mature" civil Democrats in contrast to the "childish" unseemly GOP.

frauddogg

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As a blessedly-untarnished-by-twitter commie, I always figured "treats" was a play into pillorying the settler beneficiaries-of-empire as dogs. "Good dog gets its treats" and that.

Ithorian

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I always thought it was more referring to bread and circuses, something to keep the population placated. I really like your interpretation too though.

Lemmygradwontallowme

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Well, there are those whose social democracies benefit from neo-colonial exploitation et those who liver on settler land and probably genocided the rest of the other indigenous nations...

Then there are those expats who help command a field army of Global South people, especially those of privilege, to advocate for their own "freedoms" in rival Global South countries, while cracking down on dissent when in power, as approved and even aided by the local landholders, industrialist capitalists, and Euro-American financiers...

boboblaw

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Same, I've always assumed (and still do) that this is essentially what it means. The labor aristocracy and vassal states of the US are rewarded for their loyalty.

commiewithoutorgans

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I always just interpreted it as an anti-materlialistic phrase to mock how western libs can only really understand the world through how many things they can purchase for cheap. "Oh you want to fix climate change but I'd have to have a car I like slightly less? That's taking my treats away and we don't do that" I think these all fit in one theme though and like them all meow-hug

iridaniotter

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A bit of in-group slang is extremely normal for communities. The proliferation of ideograms here is way more interesting very-smart

Lemmygradwontallowme

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Ok Big Cat Chungus... seriously, though I should actually talk about these emojis, perse...

BurgerPunk

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seriously, though I should actually talk about these emojis

Don't come for our emojis. The consequences are dire.

olimar-point pikmin-carry-l emoji haters pikmin-carry-r barbara-pit

BigBoyKarlLiebknecht

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I keep on trying to use them on Slack at work and get disappointed. I impulsively reach for gaddafi-happy and I’m this close to just adding it to the Slack instance employment be damned

Thordros

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Fweeeeeeee

WIIHAPPYFEW

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Huh! Hoo! Huh! Hoo!

Lemmygradwontallowme

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I will talk about them, god willing... grill-broke

Leon_Grotsky

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I am not 100% on it but I'm pretty sure "Treat" discourse comes from Matt Christman, Slop originally started as the "Slop in my trough, my snout descends" bit from r/CTH referring to when a new podcast episode dropped (that I'm pretty sure has it's roots in being called little piggies by Will and Amber at one point), and you got plenty of answers for Bazinga/AitR.

matt-jokerfied biggus-piggus bazinga

silent_water

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treat discourse was all over left twitter though? it's bigger so I just assumed it came from there. maybe it did spread from CTH, idk.

Leon_Grotsky

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You might be right and "Left Twitter" would be correct either way so I should have just gone with that.

It's been years and I wasn't really too plugged in to left twitter, so if I'm wrong it's not a big deal.

ShimmeringKoi

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Much of our dialect comes from the tale of brave Ulysses, whose long imprisonment in the mind palaces of the snide and thoughtless taught him to hone words of derision that could cut through the pillars of the homo economicus worldview. In time he departed for another adventure, but we still wield the words he forged us.

WittyProfileName2

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UlyssesT has simply sailed to Avalon and will return when he is needed most.

aaaaaaadjsf

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homo economicus

Lmao is this a new one? I think it's originally from Adam Smith where he argues it's a positive thing lol, and Samir Amin uses it sarcasticly, along with quips and jokes about "actually existing capitalism". I'll see if I can find it.

The liberal virus caused among its victims a curious schizophrenia. Humans no longer lived as whole beings, organizing themselves to produce what is necessary to satisfy their needs (what the learned have called "economic life") and simultaneously developing the institutions, the rules, and the customs that enable them to develop (what the same learned people have called "political life"), conscious that the two aspects of social life are inseparable. Henceforth, they lived sometimes as homo oeconomicus, abandoning to "the market" the responsibility to regulate their "economic life" automatically, and sometimes as "citizens," depositing in ballot boxes their choices for those who would have the responsibility to establish the rules of the game for their "political life."

HumanBehaviorByBjork

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sometimes, it's like i can still hear his voice....

TheCaconym

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the tale of brave Ulysses

Immediately brought to mind the legend of old Ulysses

HexReplyBot

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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

BurgerPunk

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fidel-salute he gave us an arsenal

GalaxyBrain

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Wait, what happened? I blocked him and am out of some kind of loop.

aaaaaaadjsf

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He left silicon valley to go live in the woods somewhere, refurbish a house and is becoming a dad as far as I know. So no more posts for a while. He will no longer be annoyed by Bazinga brained techbros, just rural folk and doomsday preppers now.

GalaxyBrain

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That sounds nice and probably for the best. Being exposed to media aimed at young children may just kill him tho. The post infant years are gonna be rough

aaaaaaadjsf

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Paw patrol! Paw patrol! Paw patrol on the double!

But there are good shows like bluey.

Honestly the toddler years aren't the worst, honestly pre teen years could be more challenging. Some of my younger family members are at that age and it seems like a living hell for the parents lol.

GalaxyBrain

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Pre teens are always bad. No exceptions. Everyone was a giant piece of shit between ages 12 and 16 and that's just the breaks.

booty

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Of the 5 ages in the range you listed, 4 of them are teens and not preteens disgost

mechwarrior2

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This is bait for ulysses simps

Lemmygradwontallowme

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You saw right through my plan!

Mindfury

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reads ulysses post once

UmbraVivi

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I miss him already sicko-wistful

Parsani

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Hexbear hexbear-logo Standard costanza-maoist English england-cool

kelly

BurgerPunk

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I think a lot of these expressions are from the great @UlyssesT@hexbear.net and his protracted peoples war on on the bazingas, wine cave warriors, and treat defenders.

fidel-salute to a real one

Lemmygradwontallowme

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wine cave warriors,

I forgot those shits...

kristina

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The guy will never be able to make an alt, can see it coming from miles away

Budwig_v_1337hoven

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Nobody decided, or kinda we all decided on aggregate, I guess. It's normal cultural development of a community. Hexbear is a bit like an island, sheltered from the most extreme currents of the interwinds but always in dialogue with them. Sometimes a new term gets carried here, and sometimes that term has more staying-power here than elsewhere, so it sticks. It might also shift in meaning, relative to more common definitions. Bazinga brain could be a hexbear original, but I'm not sure, really.

DoiDoi

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pretty sure "Adults in the room doing hard decisions" was just Ulysses brute forcing similar rants a dozen times per day lol. I don't know that I've ever seen anyone else say it

replaceable

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UlyssesT is a cultural icon 💅

silent_water

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I already miss him

supafuzz

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"bazinga brain" was also a UlyssesT innovation

Magician

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Can we just have a dictionary in one of the comms? I think it would help a lot of newcomers acclimate to definitions here, both site-generated and in the context of leftist theory. For example, 'liberalism' defined by the average US citizen is very different from the one used in the rest of the world.

Lemmygradwontallowme

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'liberalism'

Liberalism is when the dominant capitalists, the western ones, make some innocuous ideology, and call it a 'culture' and 'society', based off mangled historical myths and facts, under the guise of rationalism...

Philosoraptor

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The sense of "liberalism" here is the academic and historical one: it's a broad term for an ideology with a commitment to the "free market" as the primary engine of social regulation. The word as it's used in popular discourse (especially in amerikkka )--as a contrast to "conservative"--is the newer and less standard definition. Mainstream political views in most of the world are all liberal: both the Republican and Democratic parties in the US believe in things like free trade, the invisible hand of the market, and so on. Communism is an illiberal tradition in the sense that it rejects that broad consensus.

Dolores

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category A: chapo trap house & cumtown bullshit, i'm not even sure what exactly comes from these, but tons of people here are big fans even if the posting doesn't often indicate as such. i'm pretty sure "Treats" is from chapo

category B: "adults in the room" and similar is just repetition/shorthand of liberal rhetoric, done mockingly. Citations Needed's verbiage have been copped in some cases 'thought terminating cliche' but i'm sure a lot of it is organic from people reading the same bullshit in 100 newspapers for years

category C: Domestic Products, from the Power Posters; "Bazinga-Brain"... but don't forget stuff like "we may have to start making excuses for the terror" or commonly recalled taglines (and joking about taglines lol)

Mardoniush

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"Adults in the room" is from Yanis Varoufakis' about the fucking over of Greece by the EU lanyards even though it also fucked the EU and made everything worse nd everyone knew it.

PaulSmackage

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First time i really i heard treat boys was from this chapo bit.

Lemmygradwontallowme

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Finally, a sample of that podcast that shows them saying treat... honestly in this context, it's funny...

JohnBrownsBussy2

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Most of this lingo was imported from r/cth, Twitter, and maybe some pods. I think bazinga and bazinga-brain may be native to Hexbear, but slop certainly predates it as a perjovative for a long time. Not sure about treat discourse, but probably left-Twitter.

silent_water

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I've always read slop more positively, like it's mildly self-deprecating but enthusiastic. when it's some chud bitching, we tend it call it a treat.

JohnBrownsBussy2

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Yeah, but slop as a descriptor for media predates its ironic usage on Hexbear and other social media spaces.

silent_water

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yeah, definitely. I just meant how we use it.

Sushi_Desires

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You are right I think, it can probably be found it its natural habitat as you have described in almost any of the threads here: reddit.com/r/blackwolffeed

Cherufe

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The guy who killed Kissinger did

AOCapitulator

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is was me

ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider

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You forgot “PMC Karens”, which I believe is a BlackMoldFutures original

Lemmygradwontallowme

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PMC Karens doesn't too specific, that being said... I will keep it up in the edits....

ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider

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I can’t remember if PMC Karens are opposed to eating bugs or if they’re the ones trying to get people to eat bugs

GalaxyBrain

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They're pro bug and pro pod

context

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bazinga comes from the "young sheldon" tv show. it's used here to refer to liberal technocrats who believe the problems of the world can be solved with sufficiently advanced algorithms, that humans are simply waiting for someone smart enough to come along to invent solutions to the problem caused by capitalism.

the treat discourse is a slowly simmering struggle session about how leftists in the imperial core should interact with the treat economy, whereby behavior is incentivized by access to treats: minor luxuries, tasty but not very nutritious food and snacks, the carrot of capitalism's carrot and stick. "slop" is hog feed and we're the hogs, demanding content, entertainment, and treats.

"adults in the room making/doing hard decisions" is just making fun of neoliberals and centrists who see themselves as mature, responsible, logical, rational, capable of setting aside their emotional reactions to atrocities around the world in order to wisely compromise with the people committing those atrocities and benefit materially from them.

there are a few users who use these terms more, but i don't think any one person was responsible for coining them.

Lemmygradwontallowme

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there are a few users who use these terms more, but i don't think any one person was responsible for coining them.

I didn't say though it had to be one person that created it... it's not like all of these things are directly derived from Yakub's brain genius...

context

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you asked "who decided" which i interpreted to mean one person shrug-outta-hecks

Lemmygradwontallowme

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Ok, fair point...

frauddogg

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that mongrel yakub deserved to be beaten with a rat stick for cursing us with colonoid settlers

Lemmygradwontallowme

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rat stick?

Is that the one that's supposed to be used on Joe Biden...

(Joe Biden is a rabid dog, he should be beaten to death with a stick)

frauddogg

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Considering Biden's old decrepit sundowning ass, a regular stick'd do the same as a rat stick to him

blight

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I coined them. I'm witty, that's what.

Lemmygradwontallowme

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Alrighty then...

GalaxyBrain

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We've been around each other for ar least 3 years now.