I plan to keep it up. It does cost a decent bit every month, but with Cloudflare caching most requests, it's not too bad. The place I need more help from is moderators that are familiar with the fediverse and PoE, currently it's just me This community is really cool, so it's really just banning bots or people coming here to post rude stuff and then leave.
If this instance goes down, I believe any content kbin or other sites have mirrored stays up, but new posts wouldn't be visible
If it costs too much I'll set up a Patreon or something, I already have a private one that covers maybe 80% of discord bot costs, but I don't post it anywhere because I don't want to ever profit off of this
I assume by your decision question you're asking about the sub reopening? If that's the case, reddit is forcing subreddits open. Although some of the core mod team is resigning, we felt it'd be better to ease the new mods in with help, rather than have reddit fully replace the team and get random users.
As for the instance, it will be staying up! I'll try to keep poereddit.com up as well to mirror posts, but with reddit's API changes it will likely need to remain historical, through March 31st 2023.
Yep. We expect it too. If the community chooses to continue to keep the subreddit NSFW (we'll re-poll every now and then), we'll push back on the admins about it. That said if they toggle the subreddit to non-nsfw and lock it that way, we'll just have to tell the community it's not possible
So is marking the sub nsfw a viable option? It seems like Reddit is pushing back on that.
Reddit is pushing back, but from talking to other mods in the mod coord, the only ones who have been fully demodded are ones that allowed explicit content. Just marking as NSFW seems okay, the linux subreddits have all done that. PoE even has good justification for going NSFW, the game is rated M for nudity, gore, violence, etc, and the subreddit does use profanity in about 25-30% of all posts (I checked via the poereddit.com database)
So, if the community wants it, I expect we'll do it unless something changes
Have you considered the move r/politicalhumor made by giving everyone (limited) mod powers?
I hadn't heard about it until you saw it, looking at it now huh, that's pretty interesting. I worry about the users who post every day but generally expose lightly-toxic behavior abusing this. I suppose it's only temporary though. Will keep an eye on it
What are your thoughts on Captain Lance’s video?
I saw that and I regret that we didn't make our poll 1) more simple and 2) more clear about what 'nsfw' means. Those were communication failures on our part. It was an honest mistake, but we should've caught it.
Your concerns are super valid. And on the GGG using reddit to communicate I can tell you they stopped doing that already for other reasons a while back. I'm sure we'll see a big Chris post about PoE 2 at some point but not much else. Fighting toxicity is really really hard. We eliminate 90% of it and it's still a lot
Ultimately we have to go with what the community decides here, now that we've polled. The community is asking to determine the future and they've made the vote clear.
That said, we will absolutely re-poll the community later (a week? a month?) to ask if they want to stop it, so there will be more opportunities to change it. This protest won't be forever. I'd say just take a deep breath and keep using the subreddit as before, starting later tonight (PT).
It would be somewhat weird for that to be the case, the post never got enough traction to show up on /r/all
Maybe if it was linked in some group somewhere
I do wonder about a comment-based poll, where you need a certain amount of karma to vote and it auto removes + processes comments as they are made. Not sure how to set that up, but I've seen it done. My main concern with it is that the community can't see clearly what the vote was
Am I positive it won't get out of hand? Not entirely, a lot of our mods are retiring and we will not have bandwidth to moderate everything as quickly as we have before.
The community's votes say they want the NSFW option, I'm fine with it too, but the comments seem more against it, it's a bit concerning
We won't be allowing any more appropriate content than we currently do, so the limit is really a Poe statue that's unclothed.
Oh, to be clear we have never considered allowing actual pornography or gore on the subreddit. All the rules and mod enforcement will be the same. This poll option would just mark all posts as nsfw in the UI, which hurts reddit's advertising quite a bit.
We can justify this by the game being rated M for violence, nudity, etc, and around 1/4 posts has profanity in it or it's comments, based on some database queries I ran
@multiplicitypoe
@pathofexile-discuss.com