@loudWaterEnjoyer @wren A lot of people have been asking about the skill toys and wren has already answered what they are for many times. I think wren's assuming that the person who said "all for a fidget toy" has already read the other messages and is just being disingenuous.
@constantokra That's interesting. I'd check SAK Wiki or field it with the folks on r/victorinox (they also have a discord server).
The main tools are identical to the swiss champ, but the back tools are a bit different. There's also no sewing eye on the reamer/awl. So maybe it's an older version of the swiss champ. The newer one also has plus scales so it has a pen included which you would see the slot for on this side of the scales.
@pineapplelover @Steamymoomilk These days, stuff made in China runs the gamut from sweatshop to well paid labour and from crappy clones to very premium manufacturing.
If a company talks about their work environment and prides themselves on it, the labour might be fair. I wouldn't trust this messaging from someone like Nike though.
I mostly avoid China for political reasons
@constantokra @SendMePhotos Oh and of course if you're looking for something without pliers, a 91mm or 93mm(alox) Victorinox is very good. The cons are no locking tools, one handed blade, or pocket clip
Climber gives you blades, scissors, screwdrivers, can and bottle opener, Huntsman adds a wood saw, Mountaineer adds the metal file/precision screwdriver/metal saw, Ranger adds both. The Huntsman is super cheap from victorinox themselves and the Mountaineer is the most expensive.
@Eheran There's a metal bar right behind the back that notches in, so the pressure goes there. The tape is just stopping it from sliding downwards. Thanks for pointing that out though.
(I sat in it for an hour)
@LesserAbe @rozPierog just so you're aware, there's so many versions of this. Best Damn EDC has a video on how to DIY a key organizer for $5ish. Then there's the Keybar, Keysmart, and Keyport, Orbitkey and Bellroy key cover. I think keybar and keyport are the most useful especially because you can add a pocket clip
@Vej I would look at the Vertx Gamut backpack! I'm not a fan of this American company that tries to act all macho and patriotic while manufacturing their stuff who knows where, because they just say "imported". Instead of "Made in China" or "This is our partner factory in Vietnam at this specific address".
You're not gonna find a CCW bag without Velcro to be honest, that's how you attach the holster. But the gamut seems easy to clean out and none of the Velcro is exposed to the exterior
@Nogami Yeah it depends on your pants. I find it less annoying in pocket than my phone, which isn't a huge phone either. So I hardly notice either of them.
Maxlvledc is looking at a new tool that might be a Squirt replacement - he just teased it recently but can't say anything more.
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