@NoneOfUrBusiness
@fedia.ioI know that, but Haaretz = left is only a trend and not a rule that holds 100% of the time. They do good investigative journalism, but they're also Israeli and affected by the Israeli political climate, which is like... that. This results in them occasionally parroting unproven Israeli propaganda. Cosmicrookie dismissing the article because they're Israeli is definitely misguided, but the jury is still out on how widespread the phenomenon they're reporting on is.
That's basically the non-aligned movement, which... Uh... Didn't work out very well last time.
it's just far more targeted at Hezbollah members since it's their electronics.
We need to wait for the numbers before we can say either way, but I certainly doubt it. The EU foreign policy chief has already condemned the attack as indiscriminate.
It's a left wing newspaper that has been regularly posted here from extremely pro-Palestinian users.
That is... Kind of true but not really. Haaretz is (to ky knowledge) a large left-leaning newspaper that does indeed have a generally good track record but they also have multiple instances of matching blatant Israeli propaganda.
I mean yes, but this ruling is fhat they can't do either. Since these regions are illegally occupied, their inhabitants have the right to resist said occupation and, therefore Israel doesn't have the right to defend itself in the same way it would against an independent country.
Yes, because Israel insists on colonizing Palestine. Zionism has always been a settler colonialist project.
Admittedly I can't find the civilian injury numbers (I don't think they're out yet), but I found this:
“Even if the attacks seem to have been targeted, they had heavy, indiscriminate collateral damages among civilians, including children among the victims,” EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement Wednesday after he met with Lebanese Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib for talks.
At least, they were indiscriminate enough that the EU foreign policy chief found it appropriate to call them indiscriminate, which makes sense given that they were at least strong enough to kill or injure the guy sitting next to you on the bus if you're carrying a pager.
Also from here:
Hezbollah has vowed to retaliate against Israel. The group said two of its fighters were among the dead and threatened a “just punishment”.
Given that 12 have died so far (9 at the time of the article), I'd expect more than 2 to be Hezbollah fighters before I call the attack discriminate. Now while there is a chance they're more discriminate than this information implies, I doubt they got enough Hezbollah combatants or combat-adjacent members to qualify as valid military action.
People need to take their head out of the sand and realize that this isn't just an Israeli invasion, it's a war that both sides want to keep fighting. It's just a stupid war since Palestine is significantly weaker and getting their ass handed to them.
Uh... Sorry Palestinians don't want to be occupied and ethnically cleansed from their land?
Just because an action has collateral damage, does not make it indiscriminate.
It's definitely indiscriminate. They chose to use explosives that will cause large amounts of collateral damage. Even if the idea itself is fine, the 2750 injuries are 100% on them.