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Goodbye Non-KISS Appliances

https://willbush.dev/blog/complex-appliances/

<p>Yesterday, we gave away our ~6-year-old GE French-door refrigerator after a never-ending slog of repairs. At least the guy and his mother who came to pick it up have a side-hustle of repairing and reselling appliances. There's hope it won't end up in a landfill. He offered to sell me a 4-door Samsung. No Thanks! I'm done with over-complicated appliances. Refrigerator repair is not a skill I'm looking to hone any further.</p>

10 comments

TellusChaosovich

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I was astounded at how many refrigerators were described as junk when reading about the different new options available. Repairmen on YouTube were like "Avoid Samsung, Whirlpool, Frigidaire, LG, Midea, ..." Listing almost every brand.

FauxPseudo

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I get asked about what appliances to get all the time because I'm a handyman. I wrote up this short guide to copy and paste:

Tips for buying a fridge or any major appliance:

Don't until you absolutely need to, because...
Most modern ones are crap and won't last more than 5 years, but..
The EU just made it so that any new major appliance must be repaired by the maker for 10 years because they are sick of all the waste created by cheaply made crap
When you do buy one make sure it is one that could be legally sold in the EU so you can get one that lasts.
Do not get any fancy features.
The more features an appliance has the more it costs, obs, but..
The more features an appliance has the more things there are to break which means more long term cost of ownership.

Ice cube trays still work when the ice maker says to change the $40 filter. Any smart appliances (IoT device) is a network liability and the next thing you know your dishwasher is part of a botnet hoggin up your bandwidth and there will never be a firmware update to fix it.

qqq

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When you do buy one make sure it is one that could be legally sold in the EU so you can get one that lasts.

I was going to call BS, but I set my VPN to Dublin, Ireland and started shopping there using google maps.

Some places I looked:

https://powercity.ie

https://www.appliancesdelivered.ie/

https://www.miele.ie/e/refrigeration-appliances-1022129-c

Lot of interesting brands I ran across:

BEKO
BOSCH
CANDY
HOOVER
HOTPOINT
INDESIT
LIEBHERR
MIELE
NORDMENDE
NORKO
POWERPOINT
SIEMENS
TCL
WHIRLPOOL

Really surprising to my that a Bosch / Miele can be had for less than $1000. In the US, it's hard to find anything less than $3k in those brands. I have seen some places around here sell Beko, but only in white.

banghida

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Avoid Beko, I had a bad experience with them. I have very good experiences with Bosch (series 6) and Miele.

qqq

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I dodged that bullet then. I do have a Bosch dishwasher. It's fairly new and I like it so far.

altima_neo

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Lol ge appliances are known junk though. And it's always a gamble with Sears refurbs.

But yeah, I've got an 15+ year old dryer that I'm keeping alive because there's hardly anything in it. It breaks, easy fix.

poVoq

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The strange thing is: its not like these simple appliances have been out of production. Go to any shop in a developing country and you can get cheap and easy to repair models from well known brands completely new.

Try the same in Europe, no luck. Almost impossible to get an AC without completely unnecessary Wifi for example.

I am not quite sure what the reason for this is. Part might be that the legally required energy efficiency scores are only produced for the higher end models that come with all the stupid unnecessary gadgets that break all the time. But it is clearly a total market failure as I don't think anyone enjoys having a half broken fridge all the time...

tal

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I like auto-defrost, which is something that all refrigerators for decades, aside from minifridges, that I've used have.

And I suppose that having a separate freezer and refrigerator is simpler, but having a single unit that includes both is pretty much the norm.

Having a light that comes on when one opens the door adds complexity, but it's a feature that I like.

ProdigalFrog

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That was an excellent article, and the link to Ben's Appliances and Junk was extremely insightful. Thanks for posting! :D

qqq

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Thanks! I had nothing but doubts while typing it that anyone would read it. lol