https://www.eurogamer.net/zombie-mmo-the-day-befores-player-count-drops-75-despite-a-day-one-patch
Zombie MMO The Day Before has seemingly lost three-quarters of its player base since it release to overwhelmingly bad r…
Wow, you stirred up some kind of hornets nest. I, for one, don't see anything wrong with any of your comments. They were perhaps blunt at times, but never derisive or derogatory, just thought I should put it out there.
Studio or Publisher? Because Wolfenstein and Doom are not boring *EDIT hmm down votes without comments why...I sense redditors. *EDIT sorry if I offended anyone.
Actually if you look at my comments I am trying to be understanding. Most everyone else has been hostile. First time ever seeing this on Lemmy. So all I can say is sorry if I offended anyone and tried to understand others. Have a great day.
I'll assume you mean well but that you're just not super well versed in communicating over text.
You're coming across as snarky and condecending. The easiest example to help pinpoint a clear example is when you asked if the person you responded to spoke English as their primary language. From a very charitable perspective it could be construed as a benign question, aimed at helping you understand why you didn't understand each other (since you had differing opinions).
But given the context of an argument, an argument on the Internet at that, the first instinct for pretty much everyone is to assume it's meant as an ad hominem, an attempt at discrediting the person criticizing you by belittling them for their spelling and/or grammar mistakes.
It's also important to know that when you're replying many times in a thread people will likely read more than one of your comments so it's enough for one of them to come of snarky/condescending/elitist etc for that to the color the reading of all your other comments. This is exactly how we handle verbal communication as well as humans, it only takes one shitty joke, instance of poor attitude or a rude comment for everyone in earshot to form an opinion about what kind of person they deem you likely to be. People with a larger sample size of your behaviour might chalk it up to a bad day or a reaction to something someone else did earlier.
Blows my mind that you had to explain this to him. Props for the effort though.
I can see that in your first comment, but all the responses after that definitely come across as needlessly confrontational and I can't see how you feel that's being "understanding" personally.
That said, it's all good.
Can you explain how they are confrontational? I do like debating but I do not intend to anger anyone.
Sure,
Lots of replies which don't actually address or respond to comments but rather attempt to put the other person down, example:
Attacking people's replies but then suggesting they replied to the wrong person (which one is it?)
Attacking someone's language/typing skills instead of responding.
Suggesting anyone who disagreed with you are "behaving like redditors"
These little put downs come across as attempting to belittle the person you're replying to and is a common way to "win a debate" by discouraging the other person from replying, in the absence of actually having a discussion.
I have no intention of winning anything. I am a IT and guess direct and to the point. Sometimes just being inquisitive. Though I do notice many over the last year have gotten more aggressive for just asking. I still don't see a issue with my statements. How are we suppose to understand each other if we don't ask questions?
Is English not your first language? *EDIT How is this question negative? How would you ask?
It's funny you say you smell Redditors because you're acting exactly like one. Maybe it's you
Assuming my statement was implied negative without asking context is a very redditors thing to do. Also think you replied to wrong comment.
You don't get to tell us what you think is a Redditor thing to do. We've all spent time there, we know how it all works, we don't need you to tell us how it works.
You need to go check out this game. It's like the No Man's Sky situation all over again but on a MUCH, WORSE scale. To put it into context, imagine Bethesda promised Starfield, and delivered Asteroids, but it only sometimes worked.
What Fntastic put out is borderline criminal for the price they asked you to pay.
Oof that bad huh? I had considered getting it if goes on sale in the future just to see if it is as bad as people say but…damn.
If you really need to try it at some point, I can recommend using Xbox/pc game pass to palt it first before buying it
Personally I find all games made by Bethesda boring. Modding though is what made them great. By then end of Skyrim it was more Saints Row than Elder Scrolls and loved it.*EDIT How do people disagree with my opinion? Most people I know agree modded Bethesda games are better.
Some people have made "Bethesda" their trigger word and reflexively bite everyone saying it out. Right before they claim everyone else is at fault for that.
Normal discussions are now nigh impossible.
lol it's funny, all of the articles I see about this game mention that it's a "Zombie MMO" in the title. Like, I get that it was suggested that it would be, but it's objectively not.
It still calls itself an MMO in its Steam description:
The Day Before offers players a uniquely reimagined journey into post-apocalyptic open-world MMO survival set in the present day on the US East Coast following a deadly pandemic.
In this particular instance the journalists are doing their job. It was advertised as an MMO. They could change it to "so-called zombie MMO" or something, but that wouldn't be as neutral as the current title.
It's not an anything anymore. Devs just went under and the servers will be down once they don't get paid. What a farce!!
And the dev has officially declared to be closing it's doors.
I was thinking maybe it’s time to try it out but… You have to buy it?!! I was certain this would be free 2 play.
how do you scam people when it was not possible to preorder this game due to steams early access rules?
And after launch you still have the two hour window for refund and the game has no own launcher, so it's pretty easy to get rid of this game and get your money back after trying out this mess. So if you loose money it would be at least partly on yourself, right?
Don't get me wrong this game had "I suck" on the forefront since it's announcement and it had some really shady marketing, but I wouldn't call it a scam, since you can very easy avoid to loose money on it.
So if you loose money it would be at least partly on yourself, right?
You could say this about most if not all scams I dare say. It's "your fault" you fell for it.
If I remember correctly the studio is known for releasing half-baked titles into EA, grab as much money as possible and abandon it.
The game was marketed as the most ambituous MMO since a very long time and apparently what they released is a bad extraction shooter so idk if I could call it anything but a scam.
You could say this about most if not all scams I dare say. It’s “your fault” you fell for it.
Only if there is no chance to see your money back. A scam for me is something that is clearly desigend to trick you into buying it and then you out of luck because there is no chance of refunding your money. But in this case everybody who spend more then 20 minutes into it can see what this game is about and has no issues to get their money back.
The game was marketed as the most ambituous MMO since a very long time and apparently what they released is a bad extraction shooter so idk if I could call it anything but a scam.
I completeley agree on the shady marketing but again I dont see the possible advantage for the developers in this. They marketed their game as something that it is clearly not, so people just can check it for themselves or from valid ressources and then refund the game. No damage done except a little loss of time on your end.
And please don't think that I defend this game, I dont give a flying fuck about it, not even interested in it. I just find that a scam is something like Chronicles of Elyria, where all the kickstarter backers never wil see their money back. But The Day before is just a very terrible video game, nothing more, nothing less, at least in my opinion.
I mean... technically you are not wrong, but I feel you are handwaving a bit just because there is the 2 hour window forna refund. Not sure how the game is structured, but you can definitely make it look good enough to not see the scam in 2 hours.
Didn't play so can't really judge but from what I've seen and heard up until now it just looks they are selling promises they don't intend to keep - and that's the heart of the scam.
Edit: so I just read the studio is shutting down. Guess that explains why they released the game - might as well.
Disagree. People are still clamoring for such a game hence the crazy popularity of the day after. There has yet been a game that had done it better than dayz stand alone. Which took nearly a decade to actually get good. If a triple a studio actually did a zombie mmo right it would be hella popular. Shit if the day after devs could pivot their game to be what they said it would be people would come flocking back.
Im with you on this, the issue I see is that to get a really big number of zombies, like for a proper "horde" to behave correctly would be a hell of a computing task. Especially when 20 players start throwing grenades into the middle.
What decade? It'll probably be 2030 before it's playable no less "good" DayZ is a joke since the mod was abandoned for SA.
Wrong, there are several popular MMO and Zombie games today. I would argue MMOs are due a for a comeback