What should we make of UFO whistleblower David Grusch?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/what-should-we-make-of-ufo-whistleblower-david-grusch

David Grusch is a former midranking civilian intelligence officer and Air Force veteran. In July 2021, Grusch filed a whistleblower complaint to the Defense Department's inspector general alleging the existence of a covert public-private sector program to retrieve and exploit crashed, unidentified…

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Confuzzeled

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I want it to be true but as with everything related to this subject it's so opaque. On one hand I think, well he's testified under oath and if he's lying about it he's subjecting himself to either a hefty fine or jail time but we don't know what his testimony was.

It disturbs me that it's always the cia at the centre of all these ufo flaps. If this is some psyop I don't know what the point is, scare China and Russia into thinking the US has alien technology? To hide some secret propulsion advancement they've made?

greenfish

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I know right? Otoh I don't want it to be true because his version of events is disturbing as hell. But I have a hard time believing someone with his service record and career would volunteer to perjure himself for funsies? And why would the inspector general say it's credible? He could have said, 'this isn't a security threat but it's nonsense'

moogar0880

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I'm not sure that we can, or should, make much of him and his story quite yet. His story is certainly interesting and the people to whom Grusch has shown some sort of evidence seem convinced of the authenticity of his story. If we're to believe what we're hearing, this includes the Inspector General which, as Ross Coulthart pointed out, is arguably the bigger deal here. Why would the Inspector General, after internally investigating Grusch's claims, deem Grusch's claims to be "urgent" if they weren't?

Personally, the whole psyop angle makes zero sense to me because I see no clear target of any such psyop. Who would be the intended target? The general populace still seems largely convinced that this whole story is a nothing burger, so what point would there be in running an elaborate psyop to reassure them that this is, in fact, a nothing burger?

China and Russia? Grusch has also alleged that both countries each have their own crash retrieval programs. If Grusch is correct and the US, Russia, and China all have these programs then the cat is almost certainly already out of the bag within factions inside those militaries. If Russia and China are aware of the existence of these craft and have started reverse engineering them then they would certainly have been able to conclude that the US also had these craft and programs to reverse engineer them. If Grusch is incorrect then I don't see how trying to trick Russia and China into thinking we have a dozen alien craft in hangars somewhere will do anything other than turn the US into the crazy uncle at the international BBQ, so what sense would there be in "tricking" them into thinking that the US military has such a program if they don't?

And if a psyop were being run and it wasn't targeting our adversaries or our populace then...who is it for?

Ultimately, I think Grusch's story is interesting. The backing that he's gotten from the Inspector General (both current and former) is compelling. Realistically though I don't think there's anything that any one of us without security clearances and a need to know can do to try and determine the authenticity of Grusch's claims beyond waiting for the, hopefully public, congressional hearings. Until then I think this is just another interesting data point in the rich tapestry that is UFO/UAP lore.

grabyourmotherskeys

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Just a note that the urgent and important referred to the complaint that he was being harassed, essentially, for his position on this. They removed his clearance, etc. It is not referring to the things he is claiming, but rather his treatment in his workplace.

moogar0880

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Ah, I hadn't interpreted it like that but that certainly makes more sense. Ross Coulthart had said something in one of the more recent episodes of Need to Know about how Grusch was also being harassed by private security contractors hired by an unnamed aerospace contractor, so the urgency being more related to the harassment vs the nature of his UAP-related claims actually makes a ton of sense.

BerkyBear

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What I find interesting is that this datapoint is one that bolsters and reaffirms the strength of many of the existing datapoints/leaks that have come before. Thereby lifting the entire UAP topic.