He completely betrayed the Constitution you equate to being a Holy Book you lead poisoned Dunce.
When the government isn't tolerable, it's time to go and vote your butt off. And that's a lot of voting. Unless you live in Utah like I do, where all voting districts are so over-gerrymandered that no one except a republican candidate can possibly win.
We just had a huge election for congressional reps and there were two candidates, one a popular Democrat with most of the people's support and the other a confirmed trump-supporting book banning conservative hater. She had almost no popular backing. But guess who won.
It sure as hell wasn't the Democrat. And it sure as hell won't be the people of Utah who continue to be embarrassed by our right wing fascist asshole legislatures that have banned ALL healthcare for women and made it illegal to ever take a landlord to court over any issue. I love living in neo-nazi times, it sure makes the Dark Ages look appealing by comparison.
where all voting districts are so over-gerrymandered
It's like that in a lot of states, probably all of them.
It's a sickness that makes our country one of the worst in the entire world. In Utah, you can register as a democrat, but you can't cast a vote as a democrat, they will not give ballots to registered democrats in Salt Lake or anywhere else in the state.
It's legal when the Republican controlled legislator says it is, and after they are the ones who make all the laws here.
Yep. That's Utah. They're actually considering putting gay people in jail for "sodomy" without necessity of any jury trial (that is actually bill before our current legislature). You must realize, if it can happen here, it will probably spread to other states also.
Yeah luckily though I live in California so probably won't happen here at least I hope it doesnt me being a gay person
If that was a peaceful protest, then would it still be grevious bodily harm if your uncle spontaneously broke because of your peaceful actions?
My Father in law was a staunch Republican right up until January 6th happened and he was in shock. He literally spent 2 weeks doing nothing but going home from eat/work/sleep, didn't talk to anyone. It was like he broke as a human being.
I thought he had finally seen the light but no.
By the time February rolled around he had gone from standard Conservative to full on Qanon, Let's drive to JFK's grave to see if it was empty.
Idk wtf happened
Thats fuxking crazy, my parents thought I was over reacting to 45 for 4 years and i thought jan 6th would for sure finally show them that I was right about him and the MAGA movement, texted them for the first time since election night asking them if they were watching the news and they just ignored me like they did about everything else since they refused to talk about politics with me.
When the government is no longer tolerable it is the right of the people to dissolve it.
I think it's about that time...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."
-The Declaration of Independence
Not that this has anything to do with Jan 6th since it was just right wingers throwing a hissy fit, but elections in America don't work. People aren't given real alternatives to the establishment through all sorts of structural barriers. The government doesn't represent people's interests to any statistically significant degree. When you consider the US's efforts to coup left wing governments around the world, it's easy to extrapolate that if we ever were to successfully elect someone who could enact real change, the military/intelligence agencies would step in to stop them.
You don't need to defend our broken system just to call right wingers fascists. If anything their prominence is an indictment of our system. That our government is more open to people who want to subjugate the majority of the country and violate our supposed constitutional rights than people who represent the majority of the country tells you all you need to know about American "democracy." And before you say it, no, it's not because a lot of people want fascism, they're still in the minority by far, but our electoral process is set up to favor them over more majoritarian interests.
I think the two of you might be having entirely different ideas. We ARE on the ML instance after all
Oh yeh. But of course, that just happens to be where the discussion is hosted. The people discussing it could be hosted anywhere
I just found out lemmy did a fucky wucky and shuffled the comment sections order on my end, which is why it seemed like the conversation just straight up made no sense.