A brisk walk through a cold, snowy, almost silent forest followed by a warm fire and tea
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Right?
“You like summer so much? Go stand on a blacktop fully clothed and tell me you love it.”
No, winter is nice for the warmness in the face of the harsh environment, enjoying the coolness on walks/etc. Summer is nice because we have respite from it in the form of a/c and shade and cool water. The hotness sucks just like the coldness. Our ability to survive in those temperatures are intrinsically linked to our enjoyment of them.
people be like 'i love summer' and be swimming, wearing hats, using fans. no. stand out in the blistering sun till youre red. lets see
Counterpoint: Try chilling in your living room under a heated blanket with some cozy socks on and sipping hot tea when its Summer.
Yeah, it's far too expensive in hot weather to get proper indoor conditions for a fire, a blanket, and hot tea -- if you can manage it at all. I'm not sure if it's just a matter of poor insulation that allows for those conditions or what, but I couldn't properly replicate them in my house.
When it's too hot you aren't always able to get cooler.
When it's too cold it is always possible to get warmer. If only in a small way.
In the middle of winter you can put on another layer, wear fuzzy socks, drink a nice warm drink, hell even just blow into your hands. But in the middle of summer sometimes you just have to suffer.
I fucking love winter and no one can take that from me
Read "To Build a Fire." I've been in places that cold, thankfully never lost in the woods. There are definitely places that you absolutely cannot get warmer no matter how many layers you put on.
Thankfully I now live in a place that it literally cannot get too hot or too cold.
Thankfully I now live in a place that it literally cannot get too hot or too cold.
...a subterranean lair?
Imperial Beach, California.
Though I wouldn't be opposed to a Hobbit Hole. They're earthquake, tornado, and fire proof. Probably hurricane proof as well.
Not with a thick internal shell of plaster or concrete and wooden or steel beams that are built to tolerance. I suppose if you built them with Medieval technology, it would. I'd build it with a super-Adobe style wall, which should be able to withstand a fairly decent earthquake. Probably not any higher than a 6 or 7 on the Richter scale.
Layers alone don't do the trick. You need to move to generate heat in the first place. Once it drops below -20/-25C, you can pretty much only be still if you're in a good sleeping bag.
Assuming we're talking about outdoors, that's not the case for me in my area. There's only so much layers can do. You have to limit exposure. Plus all those layers can be a chore. By comparison, while summer heat can be uncomfortable, it's rarely deadly and far easier to stay safe.
I beg to differ. I've literally lived outside in < -30C, over time, without much more equipment than my clothes, a hammock, and a gas burner to boil water.
You have a limit to exposure, of course, but it's not a limit you can't comfortably overcome with relatively simple equipment (read: layers).
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This is very dependent on where you live, and to an extent how rich you are. If you live somewhere where it occasionally gets a bit hot but it often gets so cold you need to spend a lot on heating then you probably prefer summer. Vice versa for somewhere so hot you need to pay for air conditioning.
Or live in northern europe where it can be -30C in the winter and +30C in summer. Still prefer winter, -30 is fine with enough layers, +30 is fucking miserable.
I usually follow this up with "I came from Florida, and that's saying something when a 50yo man in a speedo and crocs is a common sight."
Lol, hopefully this planet ain't gonna keep getting hotter, otherwise we might need to legalize public nudity.
I just moved to Miami last month, after living in NJ and NYC all my life. I always thought the opportunity to put on more but being able to only take off so much was the better option, not anymore.
I was down in South Beach in August, and yeah, it's fucking brutally hot but at least everything is built for that weather down there most places aren't designed for the recent temperature swings in the Northeast. It was just about as bad in NJ as Miami this summer but it wasn't every day and only lasts about 2 months, instead of 6 months.
I just came back to NJ today and it's like 45-50 degrees (F) and pouring rain, meanwhile it was 80 and sunny in Miami, but not really that humid. I'll happily take walking around in shorts and a T-shirt any day of the week (literally) over having to wear a heavy jacket just to go out to your car and drive somewhere.
At some point sweating your balls off is better than walking around in 5 layers just to walk a few blocks.
When I was a kid, I bundled up and went out in a -80F wind chill blizzard, just to say I did it. I almost got lost on the street in front of my own house. As an adult, I love going out in snowstorms in the car to pull people out of ditches. Doesn't matter what car I happen to have at the time. A few years ago, I went out on my motorcycle when it was 18F, again, just to say I did it.
Come at me bro.
Yeah ngl it's pretty fun to tool about helping people get unstuck. We haven't had a really good blizzard in years though. :( Snow-bashing on a 4x4 trail, the two times I did it, was a fun way to spend several hours going a few hundred feet.
Chicagoland, far west suburbs, winter of 1979. We were catching the wind coming off the Great Plains.
Damn, that's wild. The coldest I've ever seen it in the North East was like 0 with a -10 wind-chill.
You see, if it gets colder I can put on more clothes, if it gets hotter then I have to take stuff off and you can only get naked to a point before you have to start ripping your skin off and then you gotta wait for it to grow back.
People be like “I love sunshine” from earth under an atmosphere with a cap and sunglasses while sitting under a shady tree. No. Go walk on the actual sun and like it. Let’s see.
Try going outside where the heat and humidity feels like a actual physical wall and weight on you, with the sun burning your skin and no breez and tell me you like summer.
All the extremes suck. Fuck that shit why can't we be team spring/fall?
I was in Miami in August and it was brutal in the high 80s. My buddy and I were taking a road trip back to NJ and stayed in Savannah (GA), when I woke up in the late morning I was like "Let's see how hot it is, God damn it's 105" but going outside while not in direct sunlight was actually a relief compared to Miami since it was just hot but the humidity was low.
Yeah I guess fall and spring don't really exist anymore in a meaningful way, do they?
Not to mention that there are also quite a lot of people like me who already spend most of winter outside and not caring. People like op are just week panzies who can't stand a bit of adversity, that never heard of temp regulation.
Challenge accepted, let's go. I'll pack a thermos full of piping hot coffee and a nice jacket, let's take a walk in nature and appreciate how even though you can hear everything, it's still quiet.
There’s nothing quieter than the woods on a clear cold night in January. You can almost hear the owls fly by. Best time to see the stars, too.
This is one of the reasons why I've loved my last few homes. They've all been close enough to the woods to see and hear the wildlife, but close enough to the Brecon Beacons / Bannnau Brecheiniog that I can be there in less than 20 minutes, and enjoying a Dark Skies site.
What a dumb fucking statement. The weather outside is what makes doing those things enjoyable. JFC is she that thick?
But.....you can sit under a blanket in fuzzy socks in summer and read a book and be warm. The weather doesn't make that "more fun". Just turn up the AC? (in the US mostly, if you don't have ac you will probably just not wear fuzzy socks)
The person described is an Inside person. I agree. I'd like staying inside too, doesnt matter if it's -3°F or 98°F out.
Why would they pay to cool down the house just to bundle up?
The cozy vibes of the winter are the house being cold because everything is cold and then getting bundled and cozy to warm up from your body heat.
Cozy vibes
Bruh you can be cozy in ur house reguardless of weather smh! (I greatly dislike being outside regardless of season and am comfortable inside year-round)
the cozy vibes of winter
Just like how in the spring there is a charm to watching a movie inside on a rainy day, there is a charm to being underneath your softest blanket during a ferociously cold day.
You have to be smoking something to not want to go outside, whether it's incredibly hot or incredibly cold?
You could smoke with all the inside-staying you're doing, given the conversation.
But that's why they love it. They don't have to have any reason to explain why they're curled up on a snowy Saturday afternoon binging romcoms.
The best part about winter is that no one else is outside. You get to walk around and breath in the crisp air and just enjoy the world. No people, no problems
I've tried winter camping twice. Both times I was cold, wet, and miserable the entire time. Cold, wet, and miserable are things that I try to avoid, not seek out.
Winter camping can be pretty hard but with practice you can really enjoy it. Its a balance of adjusting layers based on temperature and activity level and changing your layers as needed when sweaty or wet.
Also you need a pretty good sleeping pad alongside the warm blankets/sleeping bag.
Yeah, I had a cotton sleeping bag, and a cardboard ground pad. I was a poor kid, going with my boy scout troop. I have thought about doing it again with the right gear, but decided against it. I'll be sleeping in the snow when I attempt to summit Mt. Rainier, but otherwise those two experiences were miserable enough that I don't really want to seek out that experience.
I think it was more of a gear issue. I knew what to do, but I was poor and didn't really have the right clothing or gear. I've thought about trying it again now, but those experiences put me off enough that I'm not going to try again until my Mt. Rainier summit attempt. For that trip I expect to be miserable the whole time anyways, so if I am, no love lost.
Yeah, late Spring, Summer, or early Fall camping is a lot more enjoyable than being freezing cold during Winter. Dragging out tons of gear just to keep yourself from literally freezing to death isn't that fun IMO.
Unless you live in a place like NYC. It's still cold as shit, but you have to be outside in order to get anywhere. Putting on an arctic level jacket just to walk to the subway, and then having to take it off because the subway car is 70F but then having to put it back on when you get outside because it's freezing cold, but then having to unzip it while walking around because you've built up body heat and it's stupid humid out, even though it's like 25F is just flat out annoying. Also, once you get to your destination there's no place to put your coat.
Being out in fresh snow in a desolate area is definitely captivating though.
But during the summer it's much too warm for the fuzzy socks and the heating blanket. I want it to get super cold outside so I can make it warm again.
Plus, winter clothes are so much cozier.
Yeah it’s why I sleep with a fan and 3 blankets one of them being weighted
Cold air + getting super cozy ftw
Plus snow is fun and then you can get even cozier when you come back in
So both, both is good
Winter: pile on the layers of warmth and comfort Summer: peel off your skin in an attempt to cool off
There are two things I love about winter. Needing to fight to stay warm and getting automatically cooled when working. Seriously in winter you need to be proactive to stay warm.
Yeah, if you have an active job it's great, if you're something like a crossing guard it sucks. I work in IT and we had two ACs in my office: one for the whole office and one just for our room because during the day there could be 10-12 people in there with 24 monitors on and 12 PCs running. During the night shift it was 2 people 2 PCs and 4 monitors max. We couldn't turn off either AC. My coworker and I would literally sit there with winter jackets and gloves on because we were so damn cold. I ended up figuring how to use an Allen Wrench to turn down the room AC using the wall panel.
Love it. Nice two hour walks in light snow, shorts on, bit of Portishead or The Cure on the headphones.
And the best bit is, no fucker else around.
I'd sympathise with those that like warmer weather, but I went to Tenerife for a week and spent every day dead from heat. And it stank. You got your shit, I got mine.
Maybe I just love sipping hot teacacao, while wearing cozy socks and beeing wrapped up in a heat blanket?
Apart from a heated blanket, I use a regular blanket, I do just that. Almost daily. It's a thin blanket, but still.
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Gladly. Come "enjoy" the heat of 40ºC and 70% humidity and you'll quickly prefer the cold as well.