Fuck Biden and fuck Putin.
(Even though I did vote for Biden in 2020 and plan to again in 2024 if he's the Democratic nominee.)
Exactly this. Fuck this lesser of two evils that I have to vote for because two party systems suck.
But no one is loud about that because it's obvious.
That said, he's done some pretty ok things in office. He's just also done some pretty horrible things. Net net, I think it's been mediocre.
I really wish we could use alternative voting mechanics like ranked choice voting. I think it would help because you could vote for who you want to but still vote for who you think will win.
Strikes, occupations and uhm very persuasive in person arguments are some of the things that have worked historically.
Bringing a Constitution and Guillotine did work out in the end for the Danish worker's movement of 1848, when the king conceded. A violent uprising was averted.
whats your measuring stick? mine is other presidents and by that he is near the top for me.
If you think two party system suck, just don’t hope for a multiparty system. Those suck even more. You never know which idiot will end up building a coalition and coming to power.
yeah I don't see much issue in that given the idiots we get now. At least the others have to juggle their coalition and are subject to no confidence votes and the opposition has a shadow cabinet ready to go.
The two party system also juggles coalitions, but we know them most popularly as voting blocks in the general population or caucuses in the parties. This is one of the reasons Sinema and Manchin held so much power from '20-'22. Our caucuses and voting blocks don't always give power to individuals, but mostly to agendas.
Could you point to an example of a multi party democracy that produced something as bad as trump? I'm not aware of any, but I'm not well versed.
None of them - that weren't from the largest party.
Basically, they got the same as first past the post Trump, but had to bring along less shit parties along instead of being a political mono-culture like FPTP creates. So even at their worst, they're still better.
Everyone has to either eat poop or glass. It's going to suck either way but one way is going to significantly suck more than the other. Guess what? There's a vote tomorrow and if you don't vote then you might have to eat the worst one. Do you just not vote and prove a point to your non-existent audience or vote for the lesser of two evils?
Because bipartisan is about voting for the lesser evil to ruin your life. Being complacent just relinquishes to an assurance it will be the shittiest because the bigger voting population are looking for the easiest way to fuck you up. Voting is that easy way for them. They don’t even care that they will be fucked over by it too. They just can’t stand someone out there will have sex with someone they did not approve of and apparently this is more important to them than accessible healthcare or slowing climate change.
Obligatory: Fuck Biden, Fuck Putin, Fuck Netanyahu/IDF and anybody else complicit in killing innocent people and/or oppressing people.
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"Stop murdering people"
"Do you have any better ideas?"
How about not murdering people?
I would offer an argument, but I think you know what you said was stupid and reductive, and if you don't, then go argue with someone weaker.
I would say "uh oh, this guy just solved everything in three sentences. Peace, love and understanding. Pack it in, show this comment to Netanyahu and Hamas," but I think you know you're just another Internet bitch and will delete this comment anyway because your still nurture a cute little boy ego.
I'll drag you into the street 😂
The only point I want to be complete clear about is that if you are fascist and you enter my ambit, I attack.
I will spend the rest of my life in prison but not before taking as many as I can. My life has never been more meaningful, more oriented towards protecting life
So yes, I will drag my enemies into the streets, as I have before, as I will again
FASCISTS come meet your match!
I'm currently incarcerated but I'll be out next week. I'm in Los Angeles. I can meet you at 4th and Wall, I will be staying in the warehouse at the 450 block and my program roomies will watch from roof with choppers. The streets will eat you up if you try anything funny. Name the date IDF war criminal. You're too chickenshit, Israel deserves the hate
The only street drag you do involves you wearing your mom's panties and that floral summer dress that hangs so well on your hips.
TokenBoomer, are you feeling ok? You’re defending Biden, which is kinda weird
Edit: downvoters must not know TokenBoomer lol
I think Biden is generally doing ok. He's obviously not exciting or inspiring and he's probably not handling the Israel/Palestine situation very well (though that whole situation is pretty fucked regardless and I'm not picking sides), but he's getting a decent amount of stuff done. I wish we had a better democratic candidate and I wish there was a republican candidate who wasn't a complete nut job. I also wish there were more than 2 viable parties and we had ranked choice voting, but here we are.
If there was a better option than "guy who weakly calls for a ceasefire" I'd love to hear it. The only other viable side is all but verbally calling for a total genocide of Palestinians in Gaza if not beyond
Eat shit Russia we all see you. Go drown in a puddle 🖕
A dog is better than Trump, better than Putin.
If you can't see that, then you are an enemy of life, and many including this one.
I fight fascists every day.
I'm TIRED of weakness having such a loud voice.
I'm TIRED of our weakest showing their bellies and pussies to their would be killers and rapists on the Internet while real ass people fight in the street and in jails and in Ukraine.
I am currently incarcerated and will be released and will fight again and again and again and again
Fuck you weaklings, we will march over you too 😂
More powerful than you can imagine, completely ready to die, in love with death to get things done.
You deserve your misery, Russian.
Does the republican party like Russia?
I feel like the reps and tankies equally hate Biden.
In general, yes. Authoritarianism is usually a sign of desire for a strong man, any strong man. They might not want to directly support Russia, but they like/respect Putin.
I believe the implication is that these people are part of a psy-op from Russia. It was a common theme of online discourse during Trump's presidency, with some decent factual evidence to back it up iirc. Many pro trump accounts on Twitter were suspected of being operatives, or even just bots, for example.
It's kinda stale as a reference, but there is still a significant chance that these kinds of accounts still exist and engage in spreading disinfo.
I dislike the Russians just as much as Biden. Biden is just the one "in charge" of the country I'm in.
What do you have against Russians? I mean Putin got a few screws lose but otherwise they are alright
No. He's not good, just not the worst to anyone with a reasonable viewpoint. I don't like him, but he's ironically less terrible than most politicians, even those that claim to be to his left. As VP, he was often more left wing than Hillary and Obama on international issues. He came out in support of gay marriage before Obama, and has been more left wing as president. He's less wealthy than previous presidents, and despite Republican attempts to find evidence of any short of corruption, Biden's sins mostly come from incompetence. He was my last choice in the primary, but less because he was evil and more because he wasn't good.
He’s fine. Everything that people whine about him is stuff all presidents have done and republicans have done worse through the last five decades if not more.
Unless you want Russian victory in Europe and mass violence and perpetual domestic terrorism in the US 👍
Have enough guile to see past any impulse that didn't come from, to you, any identifiable source. And if your impulses run categorically parallel to Russian propaganda, and make you behave like a Russian (rapists, sneak murders, child thieves by the 100,000s and counting; centuries of psychopathy) and you align yourself with the Kremlin, whether or not accidental, congratulations, you are a target of anyone with a soul who cares about the safety and prosperity of life on Earth and we will put you in the zone or the ground.
Everyday footage of the cleansing in Ukraine fills me with a dream for the liberation of the United States from the MPE (Mass Psychosis Event) we've been laboring through. With each day I can see the future is ready, willing and eager to be shaped by those willing to accept it on its terms, NOT the terms of a Demagogue or Despot.
Russia will not exist after 2100 because old school evil won't survive the coming wave after wave of truth and consequences.
My main concern isn't even that he's doing a good or bad job, it's that he's clearly a dementia patient and shouldn't be in that position to being with. I had a grandfather who had alzheimers, which is a more severe kind of dementia that just gets worse, and having seen even a glimpse of it due to my parents keeping me out of view of the more severe "episodes", I really think he shouldn't be in office at all. Not to mention that dementia has a very high chance of turning into alzheimers, meaning that, if Bidens dementia does turn, he's only gonna get worse and worse and worse until he can't even make a sound.
The office of the president is more than one person. It entails his cabinet and the rest of the appointment apparatus as well as any ramifications for SC nominations. You think the orange Twitter all caps guy with "look my uncle having known nuclear" is better? There are downstream effects that are real beyond this bizarre talking point about dementia that keeps getting parroted. At the minimum be consistent in your logic ffs.
I wanted to add this extra bit, it seems that Biden would be in the third stage of dementia, with symptoms being: Losing things and minor memory loss, getting lost while traveling, difficulty finding the right words, verbal repetition, and trouble with complex tasks and problem solving.
Biden is a massive step up from Trump and honestly exceeding my admittedly low expectations, but he really dropped the ball with Israel.
Like I've said in other threads, I agree with you BUT people need to understand that Biden doesn't have the political capital to stand up to Israel right now.
We're on the brink of sliding back into Trump and who knows how fucked up we're going to get, so he can't be fighting another fire.
The US has always sucked Israel's balls, so Biden is just not rocking the boat.
I know it sucks, but our shitty political system and the fact that the half the population has brain damage means, he has to tread very very carefully.
If he blows his little wad on Israel and Trump wins because of it, EVERYONE will be fucked around the world, including Palestine.
I know we all wish Biden could be the shining liberal giga Chad we want, but US politics allows only so much at a time. Hell, I think he's done more than I would have hoped for and still part of his base is shitting on him for not doing enough...
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian troll" such a shit tier DNC shill take. Next up whining about Bernie Sanders and dusting the Ruth baeder Ginsburg action figure.
I'm not sure that it's a great measure of success when you need to put others down in order to look better yourself.
So you were intending to imply that Vladimir Putin is going to personally murder me for insulting him? Help me out here, walk me through your thought process on this one.
No, I was trying to point out that you're likely just going to call random people whose opinions you don't like fascists and insult them instead, because insulting actual fascists is dangerous.
I hate Biden.
Russia is a horrible place for LGBT people and general dissenters. The draft and war has been disastrous for the economy. Russia having any clout internationally is mind boggling.
I hate Biden.
But how badly do you actually hate Biden? Plus Russia also sucks for its neighbors.
He's actually done some good during his term, so yes. He's done a ton to combat climate change, reinforced many govt agencies so they can actually serve their purpose,
Are there democratic candidates I would prefer over him? Absolutely. But this is politics, it's all about realistic compromise. I'd rather have him than a traitorous conman spearheading a party of insurrectionists.
I do. No surprise billing, the omnibus bill, irs actually doing taxes, interest from student loan can't go above original principal along with payments based on income along with forgiveness after 20 years. I can't point to a president that has gotten more done that effect be personally in a beneficial way in my lifetime.
Trump was liable to say or do anything. He was a complete loose canon. It was terrifying.
Biden is boring. Boring is good. I'd rather be bored than terrified. Is he the best president ever? No. But is he better than Trump? Absolutely.
It's not about boring and no one with at least half a brain cell thinks that the fascist is better. But you still don't have to like the guy.
He continues with the Trump wall for crying out loud!
You mean "he honors Trump's contracts that would cost the USA more to break"? And you're going to ignore all parts of the wall they were able to cancel building?
I'm not gonna give kudos for a bare minimum of human decency.
There's more Democrat bullshit that he did that I don't know off the top of my head.
It has nothing to do with "kudos", and everything to do with "the thing you're complaining about is Trump's fault, not his."
Bitch about Biden, sure. But maybe bitch about things he's done instead of attributing Trump's fuckups to him.
I held my nose and voted for him. All of the folks in my social circle did the same, as did most of my peers at work. Everybody hates him - actually seems like those of us that voted for him hate him more because we expected something useful from him and he’s given us jack shit fuck all. The couple of Trumpers in the office don’t seem to hate Biden nearly as much as all of us who voted for that worthless prick.
If it’s a choice between him or Trump yeah I’ll vote Biden again because that’s like asking would you rather forcibly be given herpes or have your dick chopped off and thrown in a camp fire. They both suck but I guess I’ll take herpes thanks
Uggh yall do realize almost everyone in power is bad, right? It really isn't that hard. There's only a little bit of nuance here. Maybe Putin's made it a little higher up on the human garbage tier list but so what?
"not perfect" is what I'd call the best democrats personally. On a good day. Joe Biden is enabling genocide, building Trump's wall, and letting republicans attempt to legislate people like me out of existence -plus he's been shitting the bed on covid-19 since day one. I do NOT think he falls into that category being as he's a self-proclaimed centrist and capitalist and I think he deserves FAR greater scrutiny considering he stole the democratic nomination in 2020 from the massively-more-popular-among-constituents Sanders and moved the goalposts for the party further right, and maybe even the whole country
what historical president would have instead of him during this time? It has to have been an existing president. Not an ideal figure in your head or someone who has never had the job so it can't be proven how bad they would actually have been.
Im saying you paint a good picture of biden but what former president would you rather have lived under the last years?
I can see that. This is what I mean when I tell people republicans used to be different before reagan. they had actual moderates that even used the term progressive in their agendas. Thing is with ike is much of his accomplishments was just that he did not try to tear down what came before but supported it. What do you feel he did that makes him your guy?
If your point is that all of our options are pro imperial warmongers then I agree. If you can't accept criticism of the person your voting for then you're just like the maga people
Im saying that comparing to some fictional idealized thing is great but I personally judge them by their peers and this sub little chat started comparing biden to putin. A guy below has a thing about vacating society but I don't see that as an option. So im pretty happy with the best history has given us anyway because i have had worse. Don't get me wrong my go to comparison for our choices is that our political choice is to take it with or without lube.
Yeah that's exactly all I'm saying. "The lesser of two evils" just means you end up with evil in the driver's seat either way. I really, really hope we see a decent third-party option this year...
I'm a anarchist, hero worship is gross asf to me. I'm not gonna pretend giving one person a inane amount of power would ever be a ideal situation. I think at this point I'd rather live in a cave thousands of miles underground filled with traps, poisionous gas and Some Kind Of Horrid Creature than any part of modern day america tbqh
You might find this hard to believe but I'm not either of those things, I'm a scared, depressed trans woman - follow my onlyfans and find out. I'm not criticizing the most powerful person in the world just for fun.