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Meta offering two options. Either buy addfree experience or accept targeted ads

Facebook and Instagram to Offer Subscription for No Ads in Europe | Meta

https://about.fb.com/news/2023/10/facebook-and-instagram-to-offer-subscription-for-no-ads-in-europe/

To comply with evolving European regulations, we're introducing a new subscription option in the EU, EEA and Switzerland.

Facebook and Instagram to Offer Subscription for No Ads in Europe | Meta

I had turned targeted ads off, on Facebook and Instagram. I still got ads but they were not targeted based on my data. I could live with that

Today I got a popup requiring me to pick an option of either accepting targeted ads or pay the equivalent of €13/$14 for an addfree experience across all meta platforms.

62 comments

eager_eagle

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cheese_greater

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Do you seriously believe that ad-free means they're not still tracking the hell outta you and aggregating from many sources you probably don't know about like Patreon and shit?

Edit: and on the subject of personalized ads, I find it more worriesome when you can't see whats going on. Its a weird paradox

JustMy2c

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You are the ad, for Facebook to impress consumer oriented multinacionals

ultratiem

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I choose violence.

JustMy2c

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You choose well, padewin.

Let the force flow through your ddos botnet

Murdoc

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You don't know the power... of the Dark Web.

JustMy2c

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Don't tell me it has CP like Facebook short videos?

Kir

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I would happily pay (not for Facebook, but as a general consideration) if you would give me an ads free eperience AND stop gathering data from me.

danileonis

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At this point what about donate to fediverse like Lemmy to get an ads free experence anyway but without beign forced by corps?

Kir

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That's what I am doing, actually

MigratingtoLemmy

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The very fact that you're paying them means giving up your information.

Kir

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Well, yeah but it's not what we usually means when we talk about data economy, aren't we?

Kidplayer_666

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It’s not like your credit card and payment info tells you who your mother and the 50 most relevant people to you are

JustMy2c

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Donate to BRAVE & UBLOCK.

kadu

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Donate to BRAVE

I'd rather eat a shoe

JustMy2c

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Tiktok it and doNtr proceeds to Wikipedia then

ArtVandelay

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Brave is sketchy as hell, nobody should ever use them. Ublock I agree with.

JustMy2c

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Thnx 4 explain

NabeGewell

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Oh man I get to pay AND have my data taken? Collected by the corporation and stolen by hackers? What an amazing company, truly the leaders of the future of the web Meta is

burtek

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I wonder how the EU is gonna like those two options

crandlecan

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https://consent.guide/cookie-or-pay-walls/ has the latest case law

floofloof

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I can think of a third option. Send me $20 and I'll disclose the secret.

ultratiem

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Send me $10 and I’ll let you know if this guy is legit or not so you don’t waste your $20!

sup

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Send me $9.99, one time payment, no subscriptions here!

ultratiem

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JustMy2c

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KarnaSubarna

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Option 3 : Delete your FB profile, and live peacefully ever after 😀

cosmicrookie

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The issue is, that Facebook is the main means of communication for family, friends, work and hobbies.

Treczoks

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Then it is high time to change this. It won't get any better - it will get worse.

Land_Strider

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Isn't the standalone Messenger app enough for this? I haven't used anything Facebook in years but for a good while messaging a few friends and family through the standalone app was enough while the rest was uninstalled.

cosmicrookie

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Yes I am keeping messenger for now. Not sure if they're tracking data there too or listening through my mic but I need that.

A lot of organizing goes on through FB groups too but I can work around that through web based use of FB.

Nonetheless my use of Facebook will be drastically reduced!

KarnaSubarna

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Is the switch to Mastodon a possibility for you?

cosmicrookie

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For me sure, but the people I communicate with, I doubt it. I have transitioned to Lemmy pretty easily from reddit. But Reddit was fairly annonimous. I feel more stuck to Facebook because the iRL people I know are there

netburnr

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Pay or not. They will still sell your data

mintyfrog

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They don't even try to claim they'll stop collecting your data. No one actually cares about seeing a targeted vs non-targeted advertisement; the targeting technology is the issue.

Paying Facebook $14 a month and still being tracked, just invisibly, solves nobody's problem.

online

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Giving them payment information makes it even easier to track you too.

Bwaz

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Well, the third option is there too and seems the best: don't use Facebook/meta at all.

Rearsays

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I choose option three.

To fully delete your Facebook account, you would need to go through Facebook's account deletion process. I can guide you through the steps:

Click on the account menu down arrow at the top right of any Facebook page in your web browser.
Select 'Settings & Privacy', then click 'Settings'.
Look for the 'Your Facebook Information' section.
Click on 'Deactivation and Deletion'.
Choose 'Permanently Delete Account', then click 'Continue to Account Deletion'.
Follow the instructions to confirm the deletion.

Remember that once your account is deleted, it cannot be recovered. If you wish to keep the data, make sure to download a copy of your information before deleting your account.

If you're logged in, you can directly go to the deletion page using this link: Delete My Account

Just copy and paste the URL into your web browser's address bar. Note that you may need to log in to Facebook again to access this page.

kungen

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The deletion isn't automatic/immediate if I recall correctly? If you accidentally log in within 30 days, they cancel deletion automatically.

Murdoc

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As I understand it, even after that they keep your data, just you can't access it anymore.

jelloeater85

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Does anyone still even use Facebook? Aside from boomer parents? TikTok, not THAT'S a data mining platform!

cosmicrookie

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For me, it's the main means of communication both for family, friends, hobbies and even work!

Zak

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Quite a few people I know ranging in age from 20s to 40s do. There isn't really a replacement with its defining characteristics:

One-to-many blog-like posts
Mostly for interactions between people who actually know each other
Most people have an account and at least occasionally check it

It's that last point nothing else can match. If I post something to Facebook, most people I know have a chance of seeing it. Five people I actually know follow me on Mastodon.

jman6495

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This is more than likely illegal in the EU...

cosmicrookie

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As far as I know they are only doing it in EU as a response to a new law the EU had enforced on them.

jman6495

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It's not a new law. The GDPR has been around for years, but meta only recently lost a legal case saying that they cannot contractually force users to provide their data in exchange for access to the service.

But the GDPR also says consent has to be freely given, some interpet this as meaning that forcing people to pay in order for their data not to be used for ads is not freely given consent.

spiderkle

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Permanently Deleted

Blackmist

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I choo-choo-choose uBlock Origin.

moitoi

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You should delete your account as mentioned here. The second step is creating a new account and pretending you're under 18. It will be free without targeted ads.

Repeat the process periodically.

KarnaSubarna

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To add more context to it -

Meta is actually trying to ~~comply~~ circumvent EU's strict privacy policy.

Recently, The EU's top court said in July that Meta must first get consent before showing ads to users - a ruling that jeopardises the company's ability to make money by tailoring advertisements for individual users based on their online interests and digital activity.

Source: https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/10/03/meta-could-charge-facebook-and-instagram-users-in-eu-to-go-ad-free-to-comply-with-privacy-

cosmicrookie

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But it's not ads in general I personally am opposed. It's the fact that they have removed the option to show untargeted ads. I personally don't mind ads but now they force either parsonalized ads or subscription

It was not their livelihood that was at stake, but the potential for more profit

Treczoks

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Well, your decision to finally leave that hellhole is overdue then.

oxjox

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The statement reads well, and I'll take them at their word, but if an algorithm exists to show you "relevant" content, they're collecting data and using it keep you on the platform.

This has been my issue with 'social media' for the past ten(?) years. As soon as Instagram switch the default from chronological to what it thinks you want to see, it's continued to be more and more shitified (so much that I no longer use it).

The beauty of the early days of social media was that it was real-time. I could see who was doing what right now. I could see what establishments were hosting events tonight. Instead, these platforms decided it was more to their benefit to show posts it thinks will keep you on the platform longer - to show you more ads. For me, this lead to finding out days later that things have happened I would have like to have done.

Wall Street run Social Media is garbage. Businesses, organizations, governments, etc., need to go back to publishing content on their own websites (or the Fediverse) and enabling RSS feeds.

jman6495

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This is more than likely illegal in the EU...

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