Firefox lost users during “failed” Yahoo search deal, says Mozilla CEO
Firefox lost users during “failed” Yahoo search deal, says Mozilla CEO
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/11/firefox-lost-users-during-failed-yahoo-search-deal-says-mozilla-ceo/
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Curious what people here think about Mozilla CEO Mitchell Baker's statement in Google's anti-monopoly trial-. She claims that Firefox uses Google as its default search because users prefer it, not because of payments from Google.
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Yahoo is pretty big in Japan. They offer a service called Yahoo Auctions Japan that is pretty similar to ebay.
@n3er0o
Yeah, Yahoo! is pretty popular in Japan. I was really surprised when I went to Japan in 2016. Before that, I thought that Yahoo! was dead as a corp. I couldn't be more wrong...
@Sabata11792
Momentum, I think. Lots of people who have yahoo email addresses (possibly from when they had integrated ISP emails, do they still have that?) and don't want to switch.
I’d rather go to the local library and ask the clerk for a search term
Sounds kind of relaxing tbh
"Greetings, I would like to know more about this 'ligma'. Yes I can wait. Yep, thanks, took a ticket."
That's Bing now. Bing back in the day was bad. Not Yahoo bad, but still bad.
Separate of that though, Yahoo search is just bad so I do believe this. There are other viable options and were a few back in 2017; Yahoo was not one of them.
I don't really see how your reply relates to my point, to be honest.
I'm talking about how Mozilla can't claim users only like Google based on their test with Yahoo, because Yahoo sucks. That's like concluding people only eat filet mignon after serving them with a plate of shit.
Even then, changing the default search engine wouldn't be enough reason to switch browsers. Otherwise I would find a browser that defaults to duck duck go.
But like how hard is it to change the default search, 3 clicks? Then you're done for life on every computer or phone you ever use, as long as sync is set up.
As a Firefox user I prefer Kagi. Google is the antithesis of everything Firefox is supposed to stand for. That said, Yahoo has always been horrible and, out of the options that ARE available, Yahoo was easily the absolute worst.
Kagi is quite nice, but I don’t know if it justifies the cost compared to the alternatives (DDG/Brave search)
IMO DDG, Yahoo and Bing all sucks when it comes to anything complicated. I can see why general public would be put off by this. If they can't figure on how to switch Search engines, then don't really care about any Privacy.
It's 100% because of the payments. They could use DDg without issues. But to be honest Firefox uses basically rely on Google funding and that in turn allows Google to continue to monopolies search. Deal with the devil but not sure of there is a real alternative.
DDG doesn't really compare to Google search results. I can hardly find anything I'm looking for when it's pretty much always on the first page of Google
DDG sucks when it comes on regional searches or bing in particular, searches related to education is shit if you are still studying.
I believe Mozilla's decision to part ways with Yahoo after the "failed" search deal was a smart move. User trust and satisfaction should always be a priority, and I hope they continue to focus on delivering a top-notch browsing experience to regain lost users.