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[DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] LOKI S02E05 - Science/Fiction

"Loki" Episode #2.5 (TV Episode 2023) ⭐ 8.5 | Action, Adventure, Fantasy

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"Loki" Episode #2.5 (TV Episode 2023) ⭐ 8.5 | Action, Adventure, Fantasy

EPISODE	RELEASE DATE	RUNNING TIME	CREDITS SCENE?
S02E05 - Science/Fiction	Nov 2nd, 2023 on Disney+	47m	NONE

Premise:

Loki traverses dying timelines in an attempt to find his friends, but Reality is not what it seems.

Director(s):

Justin Benson, Aaron Moorhead

Writer(s):

Eric Martin, Michael Waldron

CAST
Tom Hiddleston	...	Loki
Liz Carr	...	Judge Gamble
Sophia Di Martino	...	Sylvie
Gugu Mbatha-Raw	...	Ravonna Renslayer
Tara Strong	...	Miss Minutes (voice)
Owen Wilson	...	Mobius
Ke Huy Quan	...	O.B.

20 comments

morphballganon

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I enjoyed this episode much more than anything to do with Brad, Ravonna or those old guard council members.

OB is once again the highlight.

Astrealix

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I really thought they were just going to go with the route of Sylvie realising it and then them time travelling back, didn't expect the shift back to the time-slipping thing. Chekov's gun strikes again.

With this power though, Loki is essentially more powerful than Kang, no? Able to go anywhere in time and space, and one of a kind so he doesn't have to keep fighting Kangs the same way He Who Remains did, doesn't have to keep pruning branches to prevent more Lokis with timeslipping because he is the only Loki with this power.

canthidium

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Ooh you raise a good point there. Loki could end up being a huge piece of the puzzle in fighting Kang in the Kang Dynasty.

CeruleanRuin

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At this point, I'm hoping he's a central player, but also gets to be somewhat villainous. Perhaps he ends up becoming an ally of Kang because he realizes that it's essential for the resolution of the war for him to be on "the wrong side" - because Lokis always lose.

7u5k3n

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Loki always loses because lokis gift is making people be the best versions of themselves.
Mobius told him so in season 1.
Loki will save time and space from kang... But he will be doomed to either perpetually repeat his loop or he will sacrifice himself in order to win the multiversal war for his friends / family.

And by that point Tom will be done with the character.. so it'll be a full complete redemption.

To your point tho... Loki is the most popular character in modern mcu.. he will be the cornerstone of what's to come.. there's do way they will do a shift to villain in the 11th hour and sour the decade worth of good will and ticket sales.

Imho

bappity

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He Who Remains could travel around and mess with different universes in a multiverse. Loki can actually move through a dynamic timeline. He has actual time travel as opposed to moving between universes that just follow very similar paths of development.

Squorlple

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Stay tuned until the end of the English credits for a bonus audio gag (not a full post-credits scene)

It looks like this discussion post got published multiple times btw

canthidium

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Thanks, noticed that. I scheduled the post in advance and something wonked out this week.

Astrealix

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Wait you can schedule posts? how?

canthidium

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I forget who, but someone made a scheduler webapp: https://schedule.lemmings.world. Don't mind the url, it works on any instance. Works really well usually. I use it to make discussion posts here and on !movies. This is the first time it's made multiple posts like that. So I'll keep an eye on it.

CeruleanRuin

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What was it? I missed it.

Yazer

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Good, not great.

It seems like the writers have no consistency to the effect of time travel.

OB was great again in this one. Same with Owen Wilson.

Astrealix

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The way I see it, there's two dimensions of time: one being linear time within the TVA, and the other being the time that everything else experiences including us, which branches. The TVA therefore doesn't branch, because it experiences a different axis of time. It's self-consistent in that sense where the TVA's time works the same always, and the time of everything else works the same always (if you ignore Cap), at least for now.

CeruleanRuin

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Exactly. Timelines work different in this show because the TVA imposes its own structure onto causality.

Astrealix

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to be fair, from a Doylist point of view without that there is no show to be had lol. TVA becomes an entirely useless organisation unless it can work from beyond the multiverse, and the only way it can work from beyond the multiverse yet have change in it is if there is a dimension of time in the TVA.

Hogger85b

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I think OBs use of Science Vs Fiction was a really interesting meta look at the genre and an interesting turn in what started as a silly spin off. It really has become one the best piece of sci-fi

Luckaneer

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So Mobius was talking about Loki without realising it during the pie scene, after he punched Brad.

"I'd like to thank the guy that brought me here, got me this pie".

Looking like Loki brought him to the TVA in the first place as well as Mobius saying he'd followed Loki into the pie room.

Microw

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The God of Stories! Omg they actually did it!

Interesting how they continue to adapt certain parts of the Loki: Agent of Asgard comics.

Now, I personally would really like to see Sylvie and Loki go to some version of Asgard at some point, but that probably won't happen. With Loki now changing his role however the last episode surely won't introduce yet another Kang variant? They must have sone other kind of storyline.

thisisdee

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Is Loki: Agent of Asgard a good comics series? I’ve never really read comic books other than Daredevil and a bit of X-Men, would love to try new characters

jacktherippah

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Loved it. Really messes with your mind. Was really fun.