https://www.mediaite.com/trump/brainwashed-trump-releases-new-ad-claiming-hillary-clinton-is-brainwashing-voters-for-biden/
Trump released a new advertisement via his Truth Social account on Saturday claiming Hillary Clinton is brainwashing voters into supporting President Joe Biden.
Next we're gonna find out that they had an affair in the 80s and that's Eric's real origin story.
.. I only know what that word means because of a hentai game. Do people actually know what amorous means independently from that?
Bizzare.
Yes. And anyone who's taken a first-year course in a romance language (no pun intended) should be able to figure it out.
Would it be slander if spoken?
Regardless, the standards for a public figure are very high and often difficult to prove. Despite no longer being active in politics, she would still qualify as a public figure.
So in defamation lawsuits, public figures have a higher burden for legal recourse. It's not enough to simply be false.
Pubic figure is a legal definition.
Oh she's in politics for sure. She may not be in office, but the Dem leadership and most mainstream media still hang on her every opinion.
That's not to say that any of the ridiculous conspiracy theories including this one are true, of course, so she might still have a case just by virtue of it being lies about someone who isn't de jure a politician anymore even though she de facto kinda is..
I haven’t seen her opinion voiced in months. What’s she saying, and who’s publishing it?
The only controversy I heard recently about her is she said something about how we have to 'deprogram Trump supporters' on a massive scale, and Trump supporters got all up in arms because they now think that the government is going to try to forcibly deprogram them.
Which she's of course right about and they're of course being performatively paranoid about 🤦
How is that controversial? People have been saying it and taking about it for years. I'm pretty sure there are documentaries about trying to deprogram COVID deniers and other right wing loonies. Magidiots are just the largest Venn circle of them.
Whenever there's performative outrage, I'm always reminded of the West Wing episode where conservative women are mad at the first lady.
SAM Why were there rolling pins?
C.J. Brenda Swetland: "At this moment, you're not licensed to practice medicine, correct?" A. Bartlet: "At this moment, I'm just a wife and mother."
SAM I don't see it.
C.J. Well, you got to want it.
SAM Oh, I see it.
C.J. Yeah.
It's such a throwaway line, but it says so much about political discourse and the American people (maybe it's global, but I can only speak from experience). People want to be upset. They seek out reasons to be angry, because it validates their pre-existing hate. And I'm guilty of the same, but I'm working on it.
Et cetera. You're right that she's being more quiet than usual, though 🤷
You'd only ever hear about her if you're chronically online
Objectively false. They are presented as important news by some of the most trusted news outlets in the US and as such not only shown to those you're condescending about.
those news pieces are just worthless pandering
That's part of my point: she's still considered important enough by the political establishment that they'll present her most inane thoughts as important perspective.
It says more about you than it does about anything else
Nope. It says a LOT about her continuing status as a member of the political elite.
The internet isn't real.
Once again objectively wrong.
And I'm definitely still convinced that you're a condescending idiot whose assessment of me is even less relevant to me than the opinions of Hillary Clinton 🙄
Lmao. She's living rent free in your head too.
Imagine being so stuck in an alternate reality. 😂
Yeah, Hilary's super secret brainwashing technique that she chose not to use in her own election bid. Keep the conspiracies coming.
Well, according to another Trump conspiracy theory, Hillary got a million illegal immigrants to vote for her in California which is why he lost the popular vote. So somehow she was able to get a million people to illegally vote without leaving any evidence and she decided to have them all vote in safe blue California instead of within swing states.
And he lost by 2.9 million so even if you double it he still lost. He also did that 'were gonna find out about those illegal votes' and asked for voter info. Every state responded with no that's illegal and we never heard about it until he lost again. Why would I vote for someone that can't even protect my right to vote when they're president? Or a weak ass party that can't get anything done against a powerful party that can cheat and get away with it?
Trump actually formed a commission to turn up evidence of illegal voting. Their plan was to show that Democrats were illegally voting. Only, the evidence showed that most illegal voting came from Trump supporters voting twice - and even then it wasn't enough to make a difference in any race.
We're talking about a dozen or so nationwide and all easily caught. Because, surprise surprise, it turns out that it's hard to vote illegally and NOT get caught. It's orders of magnitude harder to vote illegally at a scale where it affects an election result without getting caught.
Instead of releasing their findings, Trump's election commission decided to just disband themselves. This way, Trump could claim that there was still fraud without his own commission saying otherwise.
I love that I never hear a out Hillary at all, except for when the GOP constantly bring her up... it would be years of not knowing she exists anymore otherwise.
Aren't the Conservatives the ones always going on about "Trump living rent free in your head"?
Which never made sense to me.
"Yeah, the guy I worship like a golden fucking calf, the guy who committed a BUNCH of crimes... the guy who is finally facing some kind of legal ramifications and is thus always in the headlines... In spite of ALL that, he's that douchbag that lives rent free in your head."
These are people who make their hate boners part of their platform, but they say Trump lives rent free in our heads.
She pops up with some quote or interview occasionally still. Which makes me wish she'd just drop dead already for giving these morons any more excuse to bring her up.
Oh come one. She could die and these idiots would still complain about her doing something nasty.
They've had it in for her ever since the early 90s. They just never got over the uppity woman piping up on matters of policy.
All that power and she couldn’t use it for herself. Did she get it from a monkey's paw?
He wants to run against the person he beat in 2016 and not the person who beat him in 2020, the reasoning for the person in particular makes sense.
But the brainwashing thing seems a little too always-online, I don't think you're winning over any moderates who voted Trump 2016, Biden 2020, and those are the people he needs.
They may not exist.
In 2016, Clinton got around 66M votes, to Trump's 63m. But in 2020, Biden got over 81M, while Trump got over 74M. 2020 was the highest voter turnout, by percentage, since 1900.
It may be that nobody at all changed their mind, and that the casual voters, who normally don't bother, decided to vote this time, and more chose Biden. The winning strategy is to give these more apathetic voters a reason to care about your side.
oh i know a lot of people who half heartedly voted for trump the first time as a meme. especially terminally online 18-20 year olds who had never voted or cared before. i know 6 people who voted for him as a meme then regretted it.
Yes I think that was a lot of his appeal in '16. It was people voting for anything but the status quo, a protest vote, a donkey vote of sorts. It turns out that the status quo is still better than an imbecile.
Yup, same. Not all were in that age range, but I knew some in that range. I also knew people much older, but very low-info, who voted for him because he had that game show and he would "shake things up" and was an "outsider" and "not a politician" and other stupid reasons. I also knew a guy in his 30s who was scared into voting for the first time (for donnie) because he was convinced Hillary was going to "take his guns". Also, this guy does not actually OWN guns, but wants to be sure he can get them...
It's sad that elections are probably decided at the margins, often by people making absolutely terrible decisions based on very little actual information.
I hope your generation teaches their kids about politics and how it actually affects lives. Meme voting is the stupidest thing a teenager can do, and I’ve seen teenager jumps off waterfalls for 2$ bets.
I hope your generation teaches their kids about politics and how it actually affects lives
Would have been great if the generations before us put any effort into that. Let's not put the blame on some kids who thought it would be funny to vote for the moron, when the majority of far right conservative voters are elderly and believe everything they read on Facebook and Fox news.
I’m not putting the blame of a complete election on some kids. But voting is a personal responsibility everyone should take seriously.
And I agree that Gen X should have taught their kids better. But it’s too late now, so let’s work on the future generation(s).
hmm, this was 8 years ago now remember. that was still boomer'd kids. I'm 28 and my parents are fully boomers.
Unoriginal copycatting. This is only because she said MAGAs would need deprogramming. Accusation = confession as usual
It's funny how the right lifted "Clinton Derangement Syndrome" and tried to apply it to every valid criticism of donnie. And even still, their derangement over both Clintons knows no bounds...of course, they also have a bad case of Obama Derangement Syndrome like you wouldn't believe.
Of course, none of their craziness over Hillary and Obama has nothing to do with their misogyny or racism...
Trump Derangement Syndrome was centrist liberals becoming obsessed with, and performatively appalled by, every single thing Trump said and did. About 11-15% of Trump voters were Obama voters and a lot of Obama voters sat out the Trump/Hillary election.
Hillary drives Trumpers more insane than anyone though, it's hilarious because they're like the only group she has these mental powers over. At least Trump has charisma and ability to perform for a crowd, it makes sense he generates the reactions he does. With Hillary it's like... there's nothing there, she's robotically trying to relate to average people, she's not funny or relatable or anything, yet she drives them insane.
That's just what it is. In 2016 it wasn't conservative media that Trumpers were sharing, it was compilations of mainstream media reactions to his persona, effectively the creation of the Trump political brand was liberal media going insane over his every single tweet. This was in part to avoid addressing the Clinton/Bernie drama, because it was clear the class-oriented policies of the socialist-leaning candidate weren't convenient for the Democrat donor base. Trump was turned in to a perpetual ratings-generator for the media, a scapegoat for the do-nothing centrists, and a smokescreen for every reactionary Republican policy. Trump's tweets and moral outrage always got more coverage than the tax breaks, that's Trump Derangement Syndrome in practice.
Trumpers of course memed it whenever they could, but if you take their frothing circlejerk notion of it as the true thing, you're basically holding a concept covered in maga jizz as the standard and getting it on yourself in the process.
This was in part to avoid addressing the Clinton/Bernie drama
What drama? Clinton got more votes.
Also it’s hard to take anything you say seriously when you’re casually referencing TDS.
If "casually referencing TDS" makes you uncomfortable you're definitely taking something too seriously. Dismissing the Clinton/Bernie is basically ignoring the reason Trump won, which is what the entire Democrat party base has been doing since Jan 2016. It was like a constant feedback loop of pushing Trump to the top of relevancy then being appalled by it. It goes back to what I said about how everyone in power basically took advantage of Trump. It's a similar thing with how Democrat PACs give money to some of the most insane Republican primary candidates, it allows these wackos to boost their profiles even further, and then the Democrats can have something to be appalled by and secure their "return to normalcy" position. "Look how crazy that guy {we gave money to) is! We're not him so you need to vote for us!"
MAGA: "Please Hillary, come back! You were the only democratic nominee that a MAGA-head could actually win against! We don't want to go back to the constant stream of failed governor from Florida or rich asshole senator/governor from New England!"
Trump accusing others of brainwashing 😀😀😀 he's just jealous because his followers don't have brains so that he can claim to do what she does
But she did win the popular vote. Its the system that America haves that doesnt make any sense.
Are you hearing voices again Donald? You should know she hasn't spoken to you in a year. Honey you should take your meds. Yeah haha ofc "make America great again" but make your bed first. Thank you honey.
Really?
95% of the time I hear anything from or about HRC it’s because the right wingnuts are constantly talking about her.
She keeps a pretty low profile for someone with that alleged level of control.
Besides, isn’t brainwashing the repetition of simplistic ideas and negative reinforcement of questioning those ideas? Making everyone on the same team, and punishing those who don’t conform? Sounds a lot like the republicans.