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Chinese activist who mocked Xi Jinping flees to South Korea on jet ski, arrested

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/chinese-activist-kwon-pyong-escape-china-jet-ski-south-korea-arrested-xi-jinping-mocked-2425238-2023-08-23

The jet-ski escapee is Chinese rights activist Kwon Pyong. He had posted pictures on social media mocking Chinese President Xi Jinping, and spent time in jail in China for subversion.

Chinese activist who mocked Xi Jinping flees to South Korea on jet ski, arrested

142 comments

rustyfish

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South Korea's coastguard said Tuesday it had arrested a Chinese national who tried to enter the country after travelling by jet ski from China -- a journey of more than 300 kilometres (186 miles).

Wearing a life vest and helmet, the man crossed the Yellow Sea on a 1800-cc jet ski from Shandong province, using binoculars and a compass to navigate and towing five barrels of fuel.

"He refilled the petrol on the ride and dumped the empty barrels into the sea," the coastguard said in a press release.

That’s actually pretty badass.

downpunxx

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totally completely 100% badass

M0oP0o

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Does anyone know what the sea is like on that trip? I would think if it was not very calm this would be a nightmare.

DogMuffins

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I don't really know but...

Looking at it on a map it looks like it's a huge bay, enclosed on 3 sides. I doubt there would be any significant "swell". There might be small waves whipped up on a windy day but barely enough to trouble you on a jet ski particularly if you're moving.

The main risk would be exposure. Too hot, too cold or too much sun even on a cold day can really fuck you up.

Zpiritual

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I've sailed there, granted it was on a merchant ship, and it varies a lot. If it's little or no wind or a slight breeze from the west he would be fine weatherwise but when we had a small storm pass through it was a bit rough even on a 200m ship. Would look carefully on the weather report before attempting this, especially since he was towing his fuel.

rmuk

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1800cc? That's a bigger engine than my car. In fairness, it sounds like my car gets better mileage.

clb92

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In fairness, it sounds like my car gets better mileage.

I dunno... Even with a full tank, I bet your car is not going to get very far into the water.

Chariotwheel

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"While his means of entry into South Korea in violation of the law was wrong, surveillance of the Chinese authorities and political persecution of Kwon since 2016 are behind his life-risking crossing into South Korea," Lee said.

"He is now weighing whether to apply for refugee status in South Korea or choose a third country," he said.

Well, that's nice. Glad they don't even consider sending him back or something. Hope he gets out of this well.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy

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If this had happened in my country (UK) he'd be in a concentration camp by now.

Nice to know some countries are still civilised

Observer1199

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CabbageRelish

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That’s literally what concentration camps are. Points where you “concentrate” a population you’re trying to control.

Outright murdering the people you have in them was a Nazi death camp thing, but the Brits were probably most famous for using them before that while attempting to suppress colonial rebellion.

kmkz_ninja

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My apartment in America is a concentration camp ☹️

Corkyskog

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You joke, buy people have been pointing that out for decades now. There is a reason the term Ghetto is still a common descriptor for these areas to this day...

grue

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"Ghettos" aren't just apartments; they're specifically segregated (and not by the minority's choice) and often substandard/impoverished/oppressed.

Trying to equate ghettos with mere high density is nothing but racist NIMBY bullshit.

Corkyskog

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If there apartment seems like a concentration camp then it is likely subsidized housing, which is statistically likely to be part of a ghetto.

I have nothing against high density, living... the top commentor said their apartment feels like a concentration camp, and my point is that it essentially could be.

iridaniotter

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Feel free to be smug when the floating death trap of an "asylum center" burns up like Grenfell 🥴

Madex

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He means a boat

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/07/british-asylum-camp-free-phones-and-gyms-channel-migrants/

Observer1199

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PrettyFlyForAFatGuy

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We're talking about the existence of of the camp here, not how it will be expected to run.

Are you questioning the existence of the camp on the fact this is a torygraph article.

Bibby Stockholm has been in the news recently, i would consider that a concentration camp too. Temporary structure in which asylum seekers are to be concentrated

WeirdGoesPro

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Paywall. ☹️

RickyRigatoni

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https://archive.is/tIpfU

WeirdGoesPro

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Thanks!

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy

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Wasn't for me, try clearing your cookies

valentino

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do you live in a cave or something? The UK is full of rapists and imprisoning people for doing wrong-thinking à la 1984

Phanatik

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Or Rwanda. They love sending immigrants to Rwanda.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy

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They haven't actually managed to send anyone yet have they? Courts keep blocking them

Phanatik

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You are correct. Braverman and Sunak are appealing the decision by the Court of Appeal because they're inhuman but so far no one has been sent to Rwanda just yet.

rmuk

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They've also said they want to take away our human rights laws and leave the ECHR. Once they take away all those pesky human rights we'll be all set. I, for one, am sick of all these fucking humans acting as if the human societies that humans built should serve humans and protect humans and encourage humans to prosper. Humans rights? Makes me sick. Can't wait to get rid of them and show these humans who really matters, the people really in charge: [character limit reached]

RickyRigatoni

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I hear they have a really nice hotel there.

downpunxx

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bad yelp reviews

Hanabie

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Hope he gets asylum.

Nerorero

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oce

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You may have thought he meant psychiatric asylum but in this case it's

Protection and immunity from extradition granted by a government to a political refugee from another country.

Nerorero

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Oooooh, thank you! Yes, I was very confused for a second

honeynut

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"Let’s work together and topple this invisible wall" Mr. Kwon said in the Twitter post

He described himself as “dedicated to overturning communism.”

showing images saying “use our votes to overthrow the government”

Hoh boy

tastysnacks

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Voting is the proper way to overthrown the government. The other ways are more violent.

AfricanExpansionist

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What about when the "proper" way doesn't work?

GBU_28

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Get on your jetski

lemann

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Don't forget them 5 barrels 🙃

RickyRigatoni

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Nothing wrong violence as a last resort. Especially in reply to violence used against you.

iridaniotter

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Vote harder

7heo

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expired

iridaniotter

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That's what happens when you don't vote hard enough and let a crooked government come into power!

Klear

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Non-violent revolution. Worked for us in Czechoslovakia.

DragonTypeWyvern

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Yeah I was expecting stuff like "Maybe don't chain people into apartment buildings because one dude got COVID?"

zephyreks

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That be treason.

No country likes treason.

pleasemakesense

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Counter revolutionary let's run him over with a tank

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime

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China simps will find a way to say this is also exactly like what America would do

zephyreks

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Treason and sedition is a no-no around the world...

There's a difference between going "yo government y'all suck" and "let's take up arms and overthrow the government"

archomrade

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"Someone will find a way to make this about America" he said, immediately making it about America.

krolden

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He was trying to cross a border illegally. So yeah, its exactly what america would do, except maybe they would have shot him.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime

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Yeah the American government always imprisons those who make fun of them. Exactly the same as this for sure.

krolden

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Please show me where he was arrested for criticising the Chinese state.

Pretty ironic comment coming from @SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org I thought liberals had labelled him a russian spy

VentraSqwal

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It's in the article.

and spent time in jail in China for subversion

krolden

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but he didnt escape from jail and steal a jetski

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime

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Yeah I'm sure the Chinese government would freely admit to that being the reason lol

archomrade

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Well the US certainly wouldn't do THAT.

It is still technically illegal to be a communist or support the party or "Communist-action" organizations in the US. Even though as far as I know, the US government has never "freely admitted" arresting someone for being communist

The Act made membership to the Communist Party a criminal act and stipulated that all Party members would be sanctioned with up to a $10,000 fine or imprisonment for five years or both if they failed to register with the U.S. Attorney General as such. Additionally, according to the third section, the Communist Party would be deprived of "the rights, privileges, and immunities of a legal body.

Ignoring even just the publicly known covert agency programs to undermine the Communist Party of the United States, including possibly being involved in the eventual assassination of MLK jr

Ignoring also the war on cannabis for the explicit purpose of undermining counter-culture and anti-war movements in the 1960's and 70's.

But jesus man, stop inviting comparisons between china and the us!

Draedron

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Does america arrest people LEAVING the country?

krolden

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This guy was arrested by south Korea, not China.

Oh yeah and america definitely does.

Honytawk

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Yeah, and put them in Guantanamo Bay

downpunxx

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I fucking love this story

YeetPics

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I wonder how long it takes hexbear to blame white western liberals for their leaders weak personality?

Zetta

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Does hexbear like china?

ikidd

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I think you mis-spelled "fellate".

NickwithaC

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They have too cute a logo for such ugly ideas. It's not fair!

cryptosporidium140

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That's crazy, it says he managed it by towing 5 barrels of fuel. I wonder how fast you can go with that kind of weight

Honytawk

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He even drove almost 500 kilometer

tallwookie

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not fast enough, clearly

HellAwaits

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Cataphract

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Are there any personal thoughts or insights about the article you wish to share?

RickyRigatoni

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SKCG didn't want to identify him but someone else identified him anyway. lmao why do the agencies even try.

Henry

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LOL, love that T-shirt

geogle

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ClumZy

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France welcomes him with open arms. Anything to piss off China really.

bennieandthez

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Bro studied in Iowa 😐

Cethin

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Lots of Chinese citizens come to the US to study. Look into the Confucius Institute (孔子学院). Many (probably most) universities in the US have partnerships with them (which has led to many conspiracy theories by paranoid people).

marxistsynths19

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Lol

valentino

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Real OG

o_d

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That shirt is giving big "Fuck Trudeau" vibes. It's funny how libs who claim to be leftists will cheer on Chinese right wing extremists (Kwon Pyong) just because "China bad".

glimse

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Word soup

queermunist

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~~right wing means things I dont like~~

oh shid oh fug I misread the comment I thought it was typical liberal accusations of China being right wing 😳 😓

o_d

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I can see how the phrasing of my comment could be taken that way. Edited for clarity.

o_d

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Here's another article that claims him to be a "critic" of the Tiananmen Square "massacre". A thing that objectively did not happen.

kspatlas

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average lemmygrad member

kmkz_ninja

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I should learn early 2000s CSS so I, too, can make a website full of fun notions.

PP_BOY_

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redsails.org

More retarded Tankie propaganda. You will never find a legitimate source that backs up your claims.

From the sites "About" page

The second objective is to develop a correct theoretical line in particular... In short: pro-Stalin (against historical nihilism, anarchism, etc.), pro-China (for their chosen road of Reform and Opening Up and against “Maoism” and Sinophobia), and pro-“identity politics” (for a broad understanding of class and against the idealization of “patriotic white workers” as the revolutionary subject, etc.). We consider the populist strategy of courting brittle and ineffective “united fronts” by leaving serious questions of principle unaddressed a mirage.

stevedidWHAT

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Kk tankie

o_d

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Kk dronie

stevedidWHAT

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Good one

redcalcium

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It's true guys, Tiananment Square massacre didn't actually happen. I have an irrefutable photographic proof:

o_d

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Good one. If only you had bothered to click the link in my comment, you would see a well sourced article that does in-fact thoroughly debunk this propoganda that you've internalized so much.

Some highlights:

There's more, but if you're not willing to even consider that you've been lied to about this event, then there's really no point in me putting in any more effort.

zephyreks

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Didn't the US 4th Psyops Group literally admit to organizing Tiananmen Square in their recent recruiting video?

queermunist

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I should learn to read! 😅

Never trust a boater.

Blursty

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Why didn't he just take a plane? Just a stupid publicity stunt.

bedrooms

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Because he doesn't want to be caught in a Chinese airport

krolden

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He was arrested for crossing the border illegally. None of these articles say he was wanted for anything prior to this.

Blursty

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Caught doing what? Was he a fugitive? For what reason?

Num10ck

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heres the very beginning of the linked article that you're asking about: The jet-ski escapee is Chinese rights activist Kwon Pyong. He had posted pictures on social media mocking Chinese President Xi Jinping, and spent time in jail in China for subversion.

krolden

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That was in 2016

AfricanExpansionist

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Yeah there's no way that guy was allowed to buy train tickets, let alone airplane tickets. He probably had no passport

Blursty

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Yes I read that. So he did time and was released... go on.

What were you trying to say?

SaakoPaahtaa

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Common lemmygrad user trying to understand what their reading type a comment

nooo

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Tankies just can't help tankie-ing, can they

Blursty

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Hurr

stevedidWHAT

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Par for the course right here ^

Blursty

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Third base over the bar hattrick.

stevedidWHAT

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stevedidWHAT

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You’d know all about being behind bars wouldn’t you tankie :)

stevedidWHAT

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You really didn’t think this one through huh

Blursty

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Maybe you can explain it to me? Nobody else can.

stevedidWHAT

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Citizen of dictatorship country criticizes govt with a fucking t-shirt

Is aggressively pursued for beating and jail time

Flees to other country, gets caught anyways by said dictatorship.

Maybe if you weren’t a brain dead tankie troll you’d understand better buddy :)

AfricanExpansionist

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Chinese people don't have freedom to travel...

Blursty

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Lol what. Jesus man, who told you that?

AfricanExpansionist

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I lived there and experienced it firsthand. All residents of China must apply to travel within China. These days it's mostly automated and quick for convenience, but you will be monitored at various checkpoints in the system.

For the most obvious example, you must register with local police within 24 hours of arrival in your destination, a service hotels usually provide free. This means that you must present your travel documents to check in to all hotels. This applies to all people, not only foreign individuals. Moreover, all lodgings are not legally registered to host foreign guests. So there are many hotels that non-Chinese people cannot even stay in.

I hope this helps relieve your incredulity

Blursty

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Nothing you said backs up your original claim. And more importantly, is completely irrelevant.

AfricanExpansionist

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Lol you lemmygrad people hate hearing from people who have actually lived and worked in China.

If he tried to buy an airplane ticket it's possible he would have been denied. Riding a jetski across open ocean is pretty dangerous and not preferable. Also, there's no guarantee that you will be allowed entry to your destination. Risky move all around. Especially because the Korean island of Jeju has visa-free travel for Chinese passport holders. So maybe it was a stunt but... Risky move.

Oh speaking of passports, China stopped issuing new passports in recent years. I am not sure if they started back, but it was definitely an issue during the Shanghai COVID lockdown, as rich Chinese people were trying to leave and lay low elsewhere. It's possible that the guy's passport expired and he had no way of traveling by air.

Blursty

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Lol you lemmygrad people hate hearing from people who have actually lived and worked in China.

No it's very interesting actually, when it's relevant. You claimed that Chinese people didn't have freedom of movement, then went rambling on about how Chinese people do have freedom of movement.

If he tried to buy an airplane ticket it’s possible he would have been denied.

You just pulled that out of your ass though, didn't you?

Riding a jetski across open ocean is pretty dangerous and not preferable.

But it gets you in the news. It was a stupid gimmick and you know it.

So maybe it was a stunt but… Risky move.

So we're in complete agreement.

China stopped issuing new passports in recent years.

Jesus christ man. Use your brain.

It’s possible that the guy’s passport expired

Pathetic.

AfricanExpansionist

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I mean, it's obvious that you have no idea WTF daily life is like in China. I just ran down a list of possibilities and explained how travel works in China and you just posture like a bratty toddler.

Why do you feel a need to knee-jerk glorify and defend a nation-state you've never lived in or associated with? I didn't even badmouth the place, simply described a facet of life in China without hyperbole

queermunist

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Rich boater fucks around, finds out.

😏

stevedidWHAT

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Haha apathy about a citizen escaping political persecution

You’re a piece of shit for this comment

queermunist

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Stop believing propaganda lol

stevedidWHAT

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“Everything that isn’t my view point is propaganda”

Cool 1984 tactics buddy, propaganda sadly still has a real world definition for which my calling out your apathy to a scenario (fictional or not) is most certainly not l m f a o

I know you feel like you’re right and justified rn (or maybe you’re just another furry avatar troll) but you look like an absolute prick to everyone else.

queermunist

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Look at that fucking jet ski! This is not some poor victim of oppression. This is a wealthy idiot who fucked around and found out.

stevedidWHAT

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Suffering is suffering dude.. surely someone who’s actually fucking Queer would understand that no?

Or are you that troll I smelt from the beginning. I love our talks.

queermunist

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Okay but I'm literally a communist, like??? Do you think I feel bad for the suffering of wealthy idiots with giant godamn jet skis who declare themselves enemies of communism?

Look. We're entering the next Cold War, and it's probably going to go hot this time.

Pick a side, lib.

Eldritch

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Capitalists and leninists can both be wrong. I'm fine with small c communism myself. But staunchly opposed to the system lenin created.

socsa

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Hey you first buddy

queermunist

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Yeah, somehow China brainwashed me from the other side of the world despite not speaking Chinese lol

socsa

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It is pretty weird tbh

queermunist

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It can't possibly be that you have been exposed to propaganda from your own country!

SaakoPaahtaa

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What exactly did he find? A country better than china? (china is cringe)(china genocides due to communism)(genocide is an inherent part of communism)

ClumZy

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I agree on most of your points except that :

genocide has nothing to do with communism.
China is no longer communist. At all. You got your private property, private economy and the list goes on.

While I agree that a 'pure' Marxism application leads to dictatorship, it's still an interesting ideology responsible for most of social progress in Western Europe for example (look up what role commies had in liberated France and what laws they put into place : we're talking health care, paid leave, etc...)

China's a technocratic dictatorship, if you have read Marx, you KNOW he's rolling in his grave thinking about how China twisted his works.

SaakoPaahtaa

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Eh, kinda yes but really no. Communism always leads to autocracy, which again always leads to genocide. So saying communism doesnt lead to genocide is splitting hairs and doesnt really help with preventing genocides

queermunist

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He found the inside of a jail cell lol