Do people think that having 4 criminal cases pending against you is meaningless? Like... This is accurate and prosecutions are moving forward. The fuck do you want? That's how it works.
I assume it's just the pace, but overall there's plenty of reasons to be frustrated.
There's already talk about how some of these cases might not be resolved until after the election, at which point, depending on how it goes, could be extremely problematic.
It feels frustrating because it's mid-2023, and we may "run out of time" by end of 2024. People ask what the fuck was happening for 2.5 years? The reality of course is justice is not always, nor necessarily should be swift, and getting these investigations even started takes time to say nothing of collecting evidence and putting together a case. But also, 20 years ago even a single criminal indictment probably would have spelled the end of a Presidential campaign, and instead, Trump is successfully fundraising off of these charges and leading the polls.
It's all just bonkers.
Yep. Its a slow process.
They are collecting evidence. Witness statements and such.
They are NOT rushing this. It would be a shitshow.
He stole from charities and comitted a plethora of other crimes, if the DOJ was doing their job, he should never have been in a position to campaign for president in the first place.
I think they mean before 2015. If Trump went to jail for 20 years in 2009, he would never been able to run.
Trump is gunna die of a heart attack the day before he gets convicted and no one is gunna know how to feel about it.
I know I would feel awful about.
Can you imagine the absolute torrent of psychotic conspiracy theories the MAGATS would spew until the end of time?
Yeah obviously.
But the day before he got convicted? 2 days after that, or hell, years ago, no complicated feelings at all.
I would feel like he somehow died to get out of being convicted lmao
Even if he gets convicted, I wouldn't put it past a centrist Democrat to pardon him for unity or some bullshit.
How would the left take something like that?
Like, say Georgia's pardon board is bribed and they pardon him. What happens then?
I don't think the left would be very surprised, we'd just keep focusing on direct action. Centrist Democrats already DGAF if we're mad.
Liberals would call it "unacceptable" for a few months, maybe do a couple protests, and then continue to vote for the people who got him pardoned.
Nothing would change.
Isn't anyone disturbed by that? Without extreme action from the left and no legal pushback from the Democrats, that would mean the right could do whatever the hell it wants without consequence, including genocide.
Why aren't we overthrowing them?
They already got away with indigenous genocide without consequence, so I can certainly believe it.
Overthrowing them is a huge prisoner's dilemma. We can barely even discuss specifics without getting the whole instance censored. The first person to fire a shot would likely act alone, and spend the rest of their life in prison.
I think the most realistic solution is p2p assassination markets built on top of blockchains, like Bitcoin Hivemind. That would avoid centralized organizations for which the leaders/admins are easy to bribe or threaten.
We've already seen what they do to our heroes. Don't be a hero.
Well, you can't arrest a sitting president, and Senate was majority Republican and they tow the party line so yeah most Democrats could do was impeach and let the Republicans bail him out
But now he's not president, and has to face the courts as a citizen. The investigators aren't going to rush a case like this, but you also can't risk it going over to the election before getting a conviction. Honestly the timing on all this seems pretty on point
Yes, Ulysses S. Grant was arrested for riding his horse recklessly through the streets of DC. He was arrested, fined, and released. This happened while he was president. However, since it was a minor incident in the grand scheme of things, it isn't really a precedent to hang your hat on.
And he applauded the cop that did it, because he was right.
Of course, Grant had one of the most corrupt administrations in US governmental history, but, ya know.
He wasn't that kind of asshole.
Just appointed a bunch of relatives to positions they didn't deserve at taxpayer expense, openly profiteered, and sold access to his position, policies, and pardons.
Hey, wait a minute...
Criminal investigations take time under the best of circumstances. These are not the best of circumstances.
It's not the investigators who are creating the hype, it's the media. And the media does it because the think it sells. 'Effin BBC had live coverage of this dude arriving to his last court hearing, including his plane landing, wtf?! Who watches this shit in a country which has nothing to do with that idiot?
real life isn't Suits where charges are brought and a week later you are in a court.
also Suits had less fascism than thebUS has currently
Murder investigations can take years to get the person responsible on for trial even when in hindsight the evidence makes it seem obvious who did it.
This isn't a murder obviously but it is multiple messy messy cases with lots of moving delicate parts that as people who have never done a criminal investigation can't even imagine. I wouldn't want to rush into a case and end up bungling it because I didn't take my time.
It will soon get to the point to where he'll spend life in prison, if it isn't already at that point.
Y, bc hes old. Like all politicians. Get a grandchild already and kindly fuck off out of politics.
He has grandchildren. I assume he cares about them even less than he cared about his own children.
He only likes family members that he wants to fuck, but being married to them is a bit of a turnoff.
I am tired of Earth. These people. I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives.
Look, this isn't half-life 3 we're talking about here. It's going to happen, just keep your pants on.
And I’ve been told I’ll find a loving girlfriend but that sure as hell hasn’t happen.
They are, whenever anyone says something “vague but nice”, they usually don’t mean it.
It is what it is.
he' planning to prove his innocence, which means he'll get his followers to cause chaos.
Do you dream of one day conviction? Interlinked.
Within cells interlinked?
Why don't you say that three times: Within cells interlinked.
This is one recurring thing I can't get enough of. Please let Dr. Manhattan continue to list indictments.
It's Dr. Manhattan from The Watchmen I believe. I could be wrong though since it's been decades since I last read it.
This is nothing... imagine that to this day we have people who believe the Russia-gate nonsense, despite the FBI having poured 25 million USD into it and found nothing, and people in CNN admitting it was a hoax. But mission accomplished... people are duped.
I'm not American, but this whole "indictment" nonsense is just attempts to cheat in 2024 to prevent Trump from rallying. They're terrified! They know if Trump wins he'll empty the swamp and remove 90% of the bureaucrats. He swore he'll do it.
And people still doubt this is a civil war... and dumber people to this day think this is done in good faith. The stupidity of humans never stops to impress me. Go ahead, Americans, start killing each other already... maybe then you'll learn how to respect each other's boundaries, like Trump never locked Hillary up because he knows what message it sends.