This happened quickly…Lemmy is now the second biggest platform next to mastodon!?!
Hope this also feeds the growth of Mastodon as well. We need good FOSS alternatives to these corporate controlled social networks.
I might try Mastodon now that I found and fell in love with Lemmy, are there any good clients for Android?
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I’m on iOS so I can’t say 100% but ivory is really well designed, I’m pretty sure that’s what the Apollo dev said he likes to use so I tried it and it’s good. Personally I’ve been using elk as a web app and it’s been my favourite so far. I don’t think there’s an app for it at the moment, just a web app, but I could be wrong
I’d also recommend Ice Cubes on iOS, visually pleasing and pretty functional. And elk you can install as a half app thing where you click install from the url bar
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Just checked out Ice Cubes, pretty neat! Between Ivory, Ice Cubes, and Elk, I don’t know which to use! I’m currently paying for Ivory premium (or whatever they call it) but the other two are completely free to use from what I can tell. I don’t use Mastodon nearly as much as Lemmy anyway (I’d rather follow communities than people, plus I don’t know many accounts that I should follow on mastodon anyway)
@kratoz29 @frozengriever
It's funny to read this from Mastodon. Activity Pub / The Fediverse is weird.
I'm actually just using my browser (Brave) and it's been a fine experience so far.
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Tusky is a neat Apps for Mastodon. Good for the those who want to start. There also many more like Fedilab, Moshidon, Trunks, Megalodon etc.
For me though, I use Subway Tooter, this is an advance apps so the UI is rather intimidating.
Fedilab. It costs $2.99 to buy it, but it's the best and most feature complete right now. Elk is a good client, but it's web-based (and can be installed as a web app on mobile). But it still has a lot of soul searching to see if it's trying to be the "Twitter client" of mastadon or not.
I use them both occasionally, and fedilab is my primary mastodon client right now for lots of reasons.
Or you get it for free from f-droid. I encourage you to support the great developer tho.
@kratoz29
Fedilab, it can do multi-account & with some other Fedi branches too e.g Friendica & Pixelfed. Onboard translator
@frozengriever
I'm feeling out of place because I'm the only one running Trunks. It's pretty much doing what I need but I'm a pretty simple drunk.
I had been using Megalodon for awhile (a fork of the official client with lots of enhancements & fixes)
Recently I've switched over to Trunks. It's really a great app, especially for how new it is.
I made myself a mastodon account last week.
I'm doing my part! (insert starship troopers meme)
Usualy being a very late adopter (buy stuff last, accept trends last, switch to norms late), I'm very happy I shutdown and deleted everything from my reddit account among the first, when spez bullcrap started, and went elsewhere, I joined squabbles, kbin and lemmy. But I'm here, I like the community, adoption and migration, and seeing the numbers tells me I'm not alone. Which is good.
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Some small instances are seeing sudden increases in numbers of registered users (4k to 5k new users) but not an equivalent growth in activity, my guess is someone is creating accounts on instances without captcha enabled for account registration. Most of the top 10 fastest growing instances shown here fit that criteria.
@Odo Interesting. Lemmy is somewhat strict in its definition of "active user". You must post to be "active", so all lurkers aren't counted.
I'm not even sure commenting counts toward being "active", though I'd guess it does.
So user growth without growth in "active users", especially on smaller servers, is plausible.
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I guess that's possible. The instances I mentioned look like this:
https://fedidb.org/network/instance/parapheum.com
2 posts, 1 comment overall.
It had 10 users two days ago and 4.6k today, not a single one of them seems to have posted or commented.
So going to that instance, and going to its list of federated communities (https://parapheum.com/communities/listing_type/All/page/1) shows a few sizeable ones. Also note the instance's description (see https://parapheum.com/) which is basically to distribute the server load without any commitment to any particular kind of community.
So, could be full of lurkers, or parallel accounts created to avoid server overload that will be soon dropped. So probably some bloat in these numbers, as there are for other platforms too
This one is probably more illustrative: https://lemmy.podycust.co.uk/
Looking at their numbers on their home page, it looks like people might be moving off of the instance, but again, people have definitely subscribed to various communites there and might just be lurking.
It's amazing how fast it's growing. According to Lemmy Explorer, there are nearly 900 Instances, encompassing almost 13,000 communities. The forum software could stand some improvement, like having a way to group all your communities in one place, or figuring out whether an instance is federated. I really like the decentralized aspect of it. If a corporation tries to take over and ruin the largest instance (like what's happening to Reddit), then folks can migrate over the the second-most popular instance(s) while the biggest one withers and dies.
Also, Mastodon looks like a great replacement for Twitter.
Not sure if I should just make a post for this, but I will ask here.
Is lemmy searchable? The main appeal of reddit for me was searchability. I see a lot of different instances with different domains names.Maybe there is a meta search or something? Adding reddit to the end of a search was very convenient.
Sure. If you type site:lemmy.* [search term] into Goolge you will search all instances with lemmy in the name.
You can use this page, to search for communities (subreddits): https://browse.feddit.de/. You can also use https://sub.rehab/.
You can also just use the search function on your Lemmy instance (sh.itjust.works). It will also show content from other Lemmy instances.
Interesting question!
Lemmy has a search facility (a magnifying glass icon, generally in the top right, or perhaps behind a menu).
And it's not bad, though rough around the edges I'd say.
It will only be specific to what your instance "can see", which is all the activity in all the communities that all its users subscribe to.
So, no "meta search". But it's an interesting idea given how it was part of Reddit's value.
No reason why one couldn't be made on top of the network though
Having recently given Lemmy (via the Jerboa app) & kbin (via just their web app -- since that's all there is) a test drive....
Lemmy is okay, but the app is extremely glitchy right now, throwing constant "unable to convert to JSON" errors. (I'm copying this comment before I hit submit, because I've already lost one lengthy comment due to those errors) FOLLOW-UP EDIT: I was never able to submit this comment via Jerboa, so here I am posting my comment on the website.
And Kbin is mostly just broken on phones.
The interface is completely confusing and cryptic. As far as I can tell, once you navigate off the home page, there are no links back?
And after several minutes of trying to subscribe to a "magazine", I finally figured out that the button is rendered off-screen, and you have to scroll to the right to find it.
The Sync for Reddit dev just announced that Sync for Lemmy is going to be developed. Sync for Reddit is one of the very high quality 3rd party reddit apps that will be shutdown later this month. So you've got that to look forward to.
Yep.. I'm a long time Sync for Reddit user. A good client can go a long way to making the fediverse good. I use Mastodon a lot more than Twitter now, thanks to Megalodon & more recently, Trunks.
Try migrating to a smaller instance if you're on a big one. The fediverse is not meant to be all in one giant instance anyways.
I was able to figure out what my options were much more quickly. The UI of Kbin seems very sparse. If it offers similar functionality, it is not obvious. Also, I don't like combining "magazines" with "microblog". It seems like it wants to be all things to all people.
@vamp07 Yea, I agree, I think the combination done in kbin will be what some people want while others will prefer the relative focus and simplicity of lemmy.
I'm all for having choices. The thing about Kbin is that when I first land on the page I can't even figure out how to limit what I see to only what I am subscribed to. Maybe I need to spend more time, but that level of filtering or choice seems well hidden.
Mastodon numbers are crazy when compared to the rest of the software on that list. Makes me wonder just how many are active users and/or how many search "Mastodon" after Musk bought twitter, made an account on mastodon.social and left it.
Makes me wonder just how many are active users
MAU means "monthly active users". As you can see, the ratio MAU/users is not higher for Mastodon than it is for Lemmy.
Uhh am I missing something? Linked page says Mastodon has 1 million mau, while for lemmy it says just below 40 000 mau?
For me, Mastodon was not very user friendly. I still jump on it every now and then but I'm still not comfortable with it yet.
Tapping on a hashtag generally gives an option to follow it. It works just like following a person.
Here's the option on Megalodon (which I'd guess is similar to the official app)
And here it is in Trunks
Ooh, lovely. I didn't find rhis on official app but switches to Megalodon and it works like a charm. Thank you!
Finding interesting things to follow.
I'm not a twitter user, and also I thought that you'd find groups with whom you'd share, but instead I only found accounts telling me news I already knew. Roughly.
For me I'll check out my account from time to time for the FOSS stuff, but I could probably just hang out somewhere else (IDK where though :-)
For me, discoverability seems harder on Mastodon. I use it quite a bit, but so far it's hard to just stumble across other users who I don't know that are posting interesting things. But I assume in time that will change.
The difference between Mastodon today and when I joined 10+ months ago is there are a lot more people posting on Mastodon now.
@mbryson @maegul
According to the CEO of Mastodon last time I chatted with him, the software tracks log-ins, so people like me, who do not log out and in again, would be invisible. So I would say with a certain level of confidence that those are active users you are seeing. Unless he changed the code of course, but it did not seem to be high on his ToDo list.
Or like me, tried 3 different ones before finding a fourth that worked.
I'm not a Twitter person pes se but it was the only (that I knew about, sadly) decentralized thing on the web that could replace reddit.
I tried Twitter long long ago. I did not enjoy it. I tried Mastodon. And strangely I understand it better than I understand Twitter.
Weird I know. And I can't explain it.
Why is KBin at the very bottom with almost 42k MAU? It seems like it should be second with those numbers.
The table seems to be sorted by user count which is probably a more accurate measure of popularity at the current point in time (huge changes in the last month, so anything measured "per month" probably suffers from some anomalous values depending on how you extrapolate the monthly figure from the time significantly under a month that has passed since the Reddit migration).
I've noticed that even though I prefer kbin to Lemmy. Most of the content I see on kbin is from Lemmy.
@AskThinkingTim A few days ago, kbin wasn't on that list at all :) It's a huge honor for me, and I'm glad people are enjoying being here. Currently, my main goal is to prepare the infrastructure and sort out the basics. The real fun will start when migratories between platforms are established. This is the fediverse, and a lot can change here ;)
@ernest @fediversenews @AskThinkingTim
Yes! #kbin is super young and an upstart! Bright future!!
Are you teasing us here about migrations between platforms!?
Are you suggesting kbin<->lemmy migrations? Neither even have inter-instance migrations, right?
Or, kbin<>masto, microblogs platforms?!
@maegul Currently, it's a song of the future, but nothing limits us here. Only imagination ;) The only thing that matters to me is that if it does come to fruition, migrations should be possible in both directions.
@ernest @fediversenews @AskThinkingTim
Completely agree on "both directions".
Currently #calckey offers full mastodon->calckey migrations, which is great.
Problem is people immediately think about going back calckey->mastodon, realise masdtodon doesn't offer the same, and hesitate to make the move. I've seen it. And, of course, it makes calckey's migration effort somewhat meaningless.
@AskThinkingTim I don't agree with the opinions of Lemmy devs, and I also find kbin more feature rich. But kbin is more in development than Lemmy (which has been for longer around) and started with more servers already. They basically managed decentralization better so far, and more servers started after the reddit migration.
That's not to say I am not subscribed to Kbin magazines, nor do I think that kbin has no chance. On the contrary. I just tried to explain the current situation 😁
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@maegul @fediverse @fediversenews Wow, that's some rapid growth! 🚀 Looks like the #Fediverse is on fire. 🔥 Just shows how much we all crave more control over our digital lives. Kudos to @dessalines and @nutomic and the whole Lemmy team, from underdogs to top dogs in no time! 🐕 #Decentralization #OnlineAutonomy @fediverse @fediversenews
@katzenberger @fediverse @fediversenews
Yea, except I’ve heard that there’s something up with their MAU numbers. Also definition of MAU can vary from platform to platform, so it’s a tricky metric.
The first column is MAU, monthly active users. The second column is total users. When I say second biggest I’m going by total users. Partly because there are inconsistencies between platforms, AFAIU, as to what “active” means, where lemmy, for instance, is stricter than others, I think, and kbin, so I’ve heard, might have a problem with how the number is reported.
Nonetheless, it’s an important metric too.