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After Netflix, Disney is cracking down on password sharing

After Netflix, Disney is cracking down on password sharing | TechCrunch

https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/10/after-netflix-disney-is-cracking-down-on-password-sharing/

Disney is preparing to crack down on password sharing on its streaming services after Netflix made a similar move a few months ago.

After Netflix, Disney is cracking down on password sharing | TechCrunch

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1289467

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59 comments

HollowNotion

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After Netflix, I am cracking down on paying for these services.

PerogiBoi

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I did and now I am having a better user experience with a lot more content.

I would like to thank Netflix and now Disney for my newfound hobby for self-hosting. I am having a blast learning new marketable skills and improving my digital life.

AceSLS

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Jellyfin + Kodi + Jellyseerr and the rest of the arr stack really is amazing. Feels like I have my own netflix, just wayyyy better

TheButtonJustSpins

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What does Kodi provide in this stack?

AceSLS

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Upscaling and better codec support than jellyfin

1brokeguy

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any good instructions for setting this up on raspberry pi?

AceSLS

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This is the best one I've seen yet. Although I used this one instead and customized it to my needs (Prowlarr instead of Jackett, arch-qBittorrentvpn instead of Transmission, etc)

Be sure to protect yourself while torrenting!

whofearsthenight

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I really like YAMS. This will get you a setup based on docker that runs the *arr stack, qbittorrent, and has support for VPN out of the box. Lets you choose between Plex, emby, and jellyfin. It's also extremely easy to add sabnzbd (or whatever usenet dl client you want) by just copying a few lines in the docker compose file. It also makes updating wicked easy, just 'yams restart'.

theUnlikely

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YAMS looks interesting. Have you checked out Saltbox?

whofearsthenight

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That looks cool. I’m solid with yams right now but I’m going to bookmark that in case I need to change.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod

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Having everything in one place is so much more convenient

FaceDeer

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Meanwhile, for completely unrelated reasons, I decided to mention that the https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/ instance is run by the former top mod of /r/piracy.

trooperjess

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How do I add that one to this instance?

FaceDeer

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I'm not familiar with how Lemmy does it, I'm a kbin user myself, but I believe it should be similar between the two. You subscribe on a community-by-community basis, so for example you'd put "piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com" into the community search and then subscribe to it when it showed up in the results.

Edit: Indeed, when I visit https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy there's a helpful bit of text in the sidebar:

You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

trooperjess

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Thank you

Venomnik0

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You can just simply search community you want with the instance their in specifically. example being: @memes@lemmy.world

TheButtonJustSpins

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@ is a user; you want ! .

Random example: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Venomnik0

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Thanks actually. I always forget that honestly

Cybermass

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I paid for Netflix, cancelled it and got Disney+ instead when they cracked down on password sharing. I am more than happy to end my subscription to Disney and go full pirate, I don't care and I live in Canada so I'll never face repercussions.

I'd love to support the creatives but seeing all these strikes it's not like the execs are paying them livable wages anyways. They complain about not making enough money on streaming then vote to increase just the executives pay by insane margins annually, I can see through your deception execs.

If you are going to hoard your wealth so will I, and when the economy dies cause we are all hoarding our pennies I won't feel bad for you while you look up from the bounds of the guillotine.

Homo_Stupidus

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The insane greed is something I simply can't comprehend. Isn't there a point at which it's enough? It seems almost like a mental illness. Indefinite growth and infinitely increasing profit margins aren't possible. There's a limit to value and possible revenue. I don't know where all of this is going, but it can't be anywhere good, and I'm sure it will be violent. I seem to be in the minority, but I absolutely believe there is a point where a person has enough wealth and doesn't, perhaps even shouldn't, have more.

SpooneyOdin

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"Infinite growth is the ideology of the cancer cell"

Homo_Stupidus

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My thoughts exactly. It's all devolved into savage economic darwinism. Giant corps won't stop until they own literally everything, and even then, it likely won't be enough. It truly is a cancer on society. It's not like I want to abolish capitalism, I'm no tankie, but when does the greed stop? There's a reasonable limit somewhere, but apparently in the minds of the corporate overlords:

Homo_Stupidus

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My thoughts exactly. It's all devolved into savage economic darwinism. Giant corps won't stop until they own literally everything, and even then, it likely won't be enough. It truly is a cancer on society. It's not like I want to abolish capitalism, I'm no tabkie, but when does the greed stop? There's a reasonable limit somewhere, but in the words on one of my favorite memes:

m13

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“K.”

** sails off into the high seas **

I love my Jellyfin server.

UnixWeeb

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It's funny how everyone said they would give up on netflix once the whole password sharing was tossed out, but here we are with netflix hitting higher numbers and no one leaving. Every streaming service out there is gonna follow the same practice since it'll make them more money. If you dont agree with how they are doing things, then leave. It's the only way to influence their decisions.

Homo_Stupidus

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I did. I'm disappointed, but not surprised that it worked. I have no problems dropping Disney, too. The open sea is vast.

InfiniteStruggle

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Netflix did get screwed - their numbers increase is at low profit regions, meaning their operating costs go up while revenue increases only marginally compared to higher priced regions.

JoMiran

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My threat hasn't changed. I split my time between three states and so far hasn't given me shit any time I switch location. The moment they do, I cancel. I'm mostly watching Paramount+ and Pluto anyway.

hikaru755

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Well, as long as your devices are not TVs and are online from your "household" location at least once every 30 days, it shouldn't complain as far as I understand it

JoMiran

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I have to move my household everytime I switch locations since I normally spend months at a time per place. As long as it lets me do this as much as I need to, we're cool. The moment it tells me I've reached a limit to the number of times I can switch locations within a given time period, I'm moving on.

BubblyMango

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The first 2 months dont really count. People wanna finish that one show or continue until they find a good replacement.
People on reddit/lemmy said they would leave. They dont really represent the vast majority.

sndmn

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I'll stick with my "nothing a month" plan.

carlytm

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"Surely all the people who share subscriptions because they can't all afford 25 streaming services will each get their own accounts if we block password sharing, as opposed to just not using our services any more!"

BrikoX

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That was what people said and then did the opposite.

"Netflix added 5.9 million new subscribers in the last three months – almost three times as many as analysts expected – after clamping down on households that were sharing their passwords."

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/19/netflix-subscriber-growth-password-sharing

damirK

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Aren’t those numbers for other territories where they have cheaper plans and no crackdown on sharing?

BrikoX

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The number are for total users. And the password-sharing changes are now global as far as I know.

reddig33

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Where are the separate numbers just for North America? Do they release those? Or do they just mix it all together to obfuscate what happened after the last price raise?

BrikoX

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Netflix Second Quarter 2023 Earnings
https://s22.q4cdn.com/959853165/files/doc_financials/2023/q2/FINAL-Q2-23-Shareholder-Letter.pdf

Summary:

In May, we successfully launched paid sharing in 100+ countries, representing more than 80% of our revenue base.

Revenue in each region is now higher than pre-launch, with sign-ups already exceeding cancellations.

Paid net additions were 5.9M in Q2, and today we’re rolling out paid sharing to almost all of the remaining countries.

northendtrooper

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Netflix was the canary in the coal mines. Now I suspect we will see most if not all streaming services to follow in the coming months/year.

Homo_Stupidus

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I'm not an economist, but what is the endgame here? Eventually, in their ideal delusions, every household has their own subscription. How do they intend to fuel growth then? Just more price increases? I don't understand this extreme capitalism. Can't a business just be happy to be profitable? Why do they focus so much on indefinite growth like some kind of tumor?

reversebananimals

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Take a look at modern Cable for some ideas. How about "commercial breaks" every 10 mins? Why not some "premium content" you have to pay extra for on top of your subscription e.g. want to watch Stranger Things? Sorry that's not included, you'll have to pay $7.99 extra per month.

Things will regress to the mean until someone else comes along and disrupts streaming, just like streaming did to cable. And then when everyone moves, that option will start getting shitty.

Homo_Stupidus

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I suppose we consumers will just have to be media nomads, except for those of us who collect their own media libraries.

blivet

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I know what you mean. Their DVD rental service is profitable, but they are killing it at the end of September anyway. I suppose it makes the CEO feel like a big shot to be able to say, "Sure it's making money, but I don't care about pocket change."

reddig33

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The other services need to read between the lines. Netflix picked up a ton of new subscribers in markets where their pricing is cheap.

Also, charging more when the programming is about to dry up seems like trying to stuff acorns in preparation for the upcoming winter.

BaconIsAVeg

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I sure hope so.

GeekFTW

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My Plex server will continue forward on it's ongoing 12+ year long mission of not giving a fuck while continuing to provide me with all my content!

Mantis_Toboggan

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Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum 🏴‍☠️

darkstar

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And people wonder why piracy is going up

WillfulBedder

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I guess it was inevitable when everyone and their dog rolled out a streaming service that eventually they'd have to squeeze subscribers more to stem the losses.

It seems like if the streaming platforms licensed each others exclusives in the same way no music streaming service has much exclusive music, there might be less profit but it might have been more stable for them.

harpuajim

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Worked well for for Netflix, stock is up 30% since May.

bobs_monkey

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If anyone can pull it off it's Disney. Parents will keep shelling out whatever Disney demands to keep their kids entertained.

MagneticFusion

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123 movies is where its at

vikinghoarder

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Have to wait for theater movies to come to my paid subscription (non-premium or whatever the name is) and now wont be able to split the costs with the rest of the family? Fuck that!

Chariotwheel

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Jesus, what's with the bot in the comments, do I even want to click on that picture?

quinnly

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Report and block, that's what I did. We don't need that nonsense around here

downpunxx

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they saw all the lemmings get new Netflix accounts, and figured if the sheep were lining up to be shorn, they might as well get their share too

Frog-Brawler

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The market is so short sited. Sure, Netflix saw a bump in subscribers last quarter, but what were the cancellation numbers in the same quarter? I never got to see that info. I'm sure there's more than a handful of people that didn't mind spending $10 to finish the series they were binging, just to cancel the subscription shortly after. If you have more subscribers and more cancellations, does it really matter?

bobs_monkey

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All that matters is how you frame your situation to your investors.

FaceDeer

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It helps that Disney is desperate for money, immediately if not sooner.

downpunxx

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corporations always say they're desperate for money, since they pay out any money they have to shareholders and executive salaries, and whoops, look at that, desperate for money again, can you believe it, we just don't know how we could have avoided this desperation in the first place. it's the dril candles meme, and everyone keeps stoking it.

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