Good. This is part of the protest, reddit doesn't deserve the complete monopoly of information.
Dude, that's not the point, the point is, the info was right there, and now, it's not... it's frustrating when you know that someone had the exact same issue as you and asked on reddit and there was a reply that solves the problem, but someone protesting thought it was a good idea to delete all of his/hers comments, plus the user 😒.
I agree with protesting, but this is just... excuse the language, but idiotic IMO.
Be mad at Reddit for fucking shit up. Also, since ChatGPT has this information since it likely scraped reddit before the purge you can ask it in an extremely detailed prompt and you might get it. Works for me like 7/9 times.
Works for me like 7/9 times.
Wow. Great. And if that post were still viewable it would work like 1/1 time.
Listen man, I rely on the internet as much as the next guy but if Reddit shitting the bed is gonna fuck you over this hard maybe you need to reassess your problem solving skills.
My dude, what do my problem solving skills have to do with anything? If the post were still there you would not need to ask a chatbot to get a probably maybe correct answer, you'd have the correct answer. Its simple as that.
You obviously have a problem to solve if you are looking for answers on the internet ya dingus.
Oh really, and where are you searching for answers when troubleshooting, the library 😒?
Sorry, read it wrong 😁.
Or, and hear me out here…
Maybe this person deleted their content for some other reason. It happens all the time, I’ve come across gobs and gobs of deleted comments and that was well before the protests.
Sure more people deleted stuff because of the protests, but tons of people did so either way. I was one of them. My comments never stayed live for more than a week or two.
Mostly because some of what I shared was deeply personal anecdotes, and I didn’t want that information readily accessible as an aggregate to anyone who wanted to stalk my profile.
Sure, all that shit was archived, and someone who really wanted to could see it, but it was just an extra layer of protection as a woman on the internet sharing personal things. Made it just that much harder to use myself against me.
Rather than trying to figure out what to save or get rid of, I purged all of it manually.
It also gave me an opportunity to review my comments and the context, in case there were ways I could improve how I approached things.
Oh, yeah, makes sence in that case. Thought it was some other general information, like troubleshooting info.
I can get behind stuff like this, sure, but not with stuff like I posted 😒. There was valuable info there that could've solved my problem in an instant, but I just had to go the long way around 😒.
Some of it was troubleshooting stuff, some of it was helpful advice for setup and problem solving for a variety of things, and a ton of it was educational top-level comments that provided the whole context for the threads under them. I had some 500k karma on a 4 year old account, and 0 posts. Everything was purged regardless, because I felt like it.
It’s not my job to retain information for the future, but you can look at an archive of it anyway if it really matters to read, so it’s not actually a huge loss in most cases. Just more work for you.
I know what you're saying, but protest is supposed to be disruptive, so yeah. Reddit's only a host for that information, it's the right of the person to rip that comment off the internet, nothing idiotic about it. Giving Reddit the information to monetize while quitting is like paying the shop that rip you off while stomping out the store.
Do ask the question here though, maybe someone else can help.
I asked the same question on the Void comm here, no replies 😒.
Some people just don't get it, some subs will never shift over to Lemmy... ever. The Void sub is a perfect example, their sub is their help/troubleshooting forum. It's a means to an end for them and the maintainers will never ever shift over here. Too unstable and unusuable for them. Basically, they don't care about reddit policy or API pricing, it doesn't affect them, it's a niche sub. And the number of people on Lemmy that use Void is... just close to none... and even if there are some, they probably don't know how to fix the problem I've been having since I asked and there were no replies. I litelarly copy/pasted the same title and text there, on reddit whwn I asked the question.
If someone is against how a website operates, why would they continue to freely contribute things that would give profits to that website? People found out random specific information before reddit, and people will still be able to find that information after reddit.
Personally, I look at it as I'm grateful that people freely share such information in the first place. When information is this available to find (we have almost the entire internet's worth of resources), I'm not going to complain that I can't find it on one url.
Having attitudes like the one in this post can discourage people from sharing these things in the first place. No one wants to feel obligated to change their personal accounts to suit the liking of complete strangers, especially after they're ready to move on. No one will want to be helpful if it just leads to complaints and grievances. Life's just too short to deal with that noise, frankly.
Some of these posts are almost implying that an individual person providing valuable information for free for multiple years isn't enough anymore. That your own morals and wants don't matter anymore, all because someone else has to look a little longer to find something.
I'm sorry, I'm just sick of all the complaining and the expectations being placed on complete strangers to likely go against their own morals. Just use other websites, or create your own community. No one is beholden to go against their own morals just because it makes searching easier. That is not a great thing to expect of others.
You don't see the problem here... I'm sorry, I just can't see a common ground on which we can discuss this problem.
And I have shared info for free as well, wheter it be reddit or some other place, doesn't matter... and I will continue to do it... and it will never ever occur to me to delete said data from any site or social media, forum, whatever. Data and info is just too valuable IMO and not you or me has the right to remove it once it's been shared. That's my stand on things. Most people won't agree with this, but this is my reasoning.
People have been scrubbing their accounts and comments for the past ten years on Reddit, long before these current protests.
Yes, and? It was not a better idea then than it is now. Actually it was worse then since it wasn't related to any protest.
I can't imagine why you're trying so hard to be upset about the idea of people being able to control their own work.
I totally agree with you. The protests were fine, but "hur dur delete my account and everything on it so noone can ever see it again" was a fucking stupid idea when you're protesting for the freedom of the internet.
So, leaving your knowledge there for a company to profit from is okay for you.
It isn't for everyone.
They're gonna profit regardless if you leave the info there or not, AI has already scraped that info. The only ones that get the sharper end of the stick are users like you and me when troubleshooting.
Well, no, if the information isn't there, it won't show in searches.
If it doesn't show in searches, nobody clicks into reddit for that info.
If nobody clicks in, no ads are served.
Removing our information directly cuts their ability to profit from anyone that does so. Will they still make profit from other users? Absolutely.
But, huffpig himself declared that our words and expertise were his to make profit from. He didn't even mince words, he said our collective writing was reddit's "corpus of data", that the information we supplied, and the tracking/data gathering reddit does is only valuable in terms of what it gains him via reddit.
Again, anyone is free to make their own choice about whether to delete comments and posts or not. But it is ours to delete. You do not own my writing, nor are you entitled to access it if I choose to remove it. The same is true of your writing there (or here). If you choose to delete it, tough shit for me, I'll have to find a dedicated forum elsewhere.
To say otherwise, you lead down a road where people start thinking that others are required to provide expertise ad infinitum, and that just isn't true. Copyrights alone prevent that, and anything on reddit would still be held as the writer's property. While I am piracy friendly even with my actual writing that is also sold, that is my Copyright, not anyone else's. If anyone wants to profit from it, it is my right to seek redress.
Big or small, helpful or useless, the ability to control our writings is a fairly clear legal right.
Exactly my thoughts... just leave man, I left as well 🤷. They won't get any more info from you but leave the info alone, it's valuable when people troubleshoot online.
What a terrible take on this. Did Reddit make this post? This is essentially erasure of knowledge searchable by anyone. Does anyone looking for the answer also not deserve it any different?
If that user in the least somehow exported their comments so they are available somewhere else, fine. But thats quite unlikely.
Now if Reddit starts to restrict access to comments like Twitter/X did for their content, agreed, fuck 'em.
Dude you want the Reddit protests to work but also that they don't affect anyone? That's literally the opposite of a protest. The important thing for a protest is to show how much someone depends on something to level the playing field for negotiations.
These are the exact things that make the protest effective. You admitted it yourself: because of this action, you had to find your information somewhere else. Isn't that the point of the protest? Driving people away from Reddit to show the admins how critical their userbase is to their success?
I mean I get why you're mad, but if you are pissed at spez and where Reddit is heading too, this is the wrong thing to be mad about.
Rather be mad the Reddit holds such a monopoly on this kind of knowledge that you can't find it almost anywhere else.
Not affect anyone, it will affect search engines... but, not much nore than that.
And the protests proved inaffective, as I initially thought and said to many, just move, no need to protest, just leave for Lemmy and leave your accounts. That was all that was needed and no protest in the world is gonna beat reddit or the admins that will just overried your NSFW settings. Leaving the platform says way more than protesting this or that.
And no, if the point of the protest was to just delete all info from reddit, then I would've never been behind that protest. The delete everything idea was promoted by some extreme protesters and unfortunatelly, some users went allong with that.
One of the points of the protest was to drive down engagement to the reddit website entirely. You searched for a problem, found that reddit no longer has the answers, and posted about your frustrations on lemmy, a direct competitor to reddit, driving up engagement on lemmy instead.
I'm pretty sure the protest is working just as intended, even after it "ended".
I'm really sorry about your problem though. I wish I had the expertise to help, but I don't.
Well here’s the thing. Mr. Huffman, Reddit CEO, thinks that he and his board of executives owns the content in the screenshot and all other posts on Reddit. He’s even gone out of his way to let it be known that this belongs to him, and it’s his to profit from any way he damn well pleases.
Why the hell should the guy who deleted his comment give away his hard earned knowledge to benefit Steve, who clearly has shown he thinks the rest of us are just ants in his anthill of capitalistic endeavors.
https://archive.org/details/pushshift-reddit-2023-03
If op wanted the information it can likely still be found.
That's not the point... it was eight there... right there, no need to dig deeper... and it wasn't like a 30GB bluray rip went missing, it was just a few lines of text, a few very valuable lines of text... but no, some people thought it's more imoortant to protest than the freedom of information 😒... info that they once shared BTW, no one forced them to do it, but no, some of the protesters thought it was a good idea yo delete all of the content and their accounts... please explain how this is a good idea.
I deleted 14 years of reddit comments and submissions. Years. That's a huge investment of time and energy. When reddit made it crystal clear that they see users as a replaceable commodity that they can use and abuse with impunity many of us decided to call them on it. Note how I did not say "call their bluff", neither they nor us were bluffing. Now because reddit made poor choices we've got people such as yourself blaming us for not putting up with abuse from a narcissistic asshole named Steve Huffman. Well I'm here to tell you that if you can't understand what happened or don't care then you can go to hell too. When I got that data I linked to set up I was going to come back and give you what you're looking for but now you can have this instead: 🖕 Do it your goddamn self.
Ask your questions here! The lemmy archives aren’t as deep as Reddit’s yet, but one by one well get there!
I did... zero replies 😒. And I asked on reddit as well. Didn't get an exact answer, but at least I got pointed in the right direction.
