https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/3872
They don't understand that we never agreed to any of their TOS/policies, they don't understand that we don't use their API. What now? Things will continue normally until they can't anymore. Assume ...
Reddit, YouTube, Twitter - it seems like all companies want to suddenly shut down third party apps. Coincidence or is there something larger at play here?
You'd be surprised how many company decisions are made by CEO A just reading news of CEO B doing a thing and just also wanting to do it.
They don't get to sell as much of your attention with third party apps. It's money out of their pocket, the way they see it. The irony is they don't actually produce any content. jus tleech off those who do.
I know why they are doing it, but I was wondering more about the timing. These have all been around for years but it seems recently there is a sudden push to remove third party apps.
Is there a new technology coming out, a new law, or as @orbit@beehaw.org says is it just CEOs copying each other?
My personal suspicion is that it has something to do with Apple's changes around data collection - I'm not well versed in all the details but this article describes the overall changes in more depth. IMO, with first-party data collection becoming more important for Youtube and Reddit so they can sell more valuable ad space to other companies, they need to force everyone into their owned app to have the opportunity to collect that data.
The era of cheap money that started in the West in the early 90s ended with covid, but these companies all have VC and other investors to pay back at extremely high interest rates
Stupid. It is like someone getting mad that I can download a website and have an arvhived copy.
If something is publicly available, I get to have it.
I feel strongly about this for any art. Creators are so desparate to shove their stuff into our senses and get paid for it. No one is ever obliged to spend their time and resources on anything people make.
If you don't want someone to steal your work, keep it to yourself.
If the art actually mattered, if the message was important and necessary, it would be given away, there would be no barrier.
Anyways, the monetization system is fucked and rewards the worst people. Google will never get my money ever again.
Terribly obvious how little they actually understand what invidious is or does. I just hope GitHub has a backbone and understands how little recourse they have over what they perceive as a breach of their TOS when that doesn't even factor.
They belatedly stood up for youtube-dl so there is a bit of hope, but it's still Microsoft we are talking about here. It's good that they have a self-hosted backup and more projects should consider moving off GitHub so they aren't at the mercy of spurious DMCA claims.
Hopefully this doesn't set a precedent, because I'm sure YouTube will try to take down youtube-dl (again) or NewPipe.
Is it likely that other scrapers like NewPipe will also be taken down? I'm a little afraid since I rely on it to entertain myself on my repaired older flagship phone.
Hope next isn't newpipe or smarttubenext (which I use on my android boxes) what a crap show with all these big tech companies
... they don't understand that we don't use their API
I'm only casually familiar with Invidious. How does it play YouTube videos without interacting with the YouTube API?
Probably by scraping. Scraping is what you implement an API to avoid, its basically the client masquerading as a web browser and then extracting the data it wants from whatever the website sends out.
It's bad for services because iy involves sending much more data and filling more requests. It's bad for the developer of the client because scraping is more complex and breaks whenever they revise the website layout or anything like that.
But if you're going to pull a twitter, you get what you deserve.
I'm not too familiar with Peertube but I don't think it can easily replace Youtube without the content from Youtube. I would be interested in checking it out though if anyone has recommendations
Peertube is a different network from invidious, if you want an invidious alternative, there's Piped