Any chance the “childlike” bit can get removed/reworded in the sidebar? I get you’ve clarified the rules that this is an explicitly adult-only community (which really should go without saying), but leaving the phrasing invites the wrong idea of what content is welcome here/could bring in the creep crowd. There’s a pretty big difference between cute/adorable nsfw content and “childlike” nsfw content, but your sidebar blurs that line in a way you might not be intending.
Unrelated, what’s this community’s stance on male/masc-presenting posts? Is it a women-only focused community?
Yeah, I wondered about leaving that in. TBH, I was searching various dictionary references for "adorable" to see if my understanding matches the common usage, and childlike just happened to be one of the definitions. I will remove.
[Update]: https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/adorable is where the initial reference came from as part of cut/paste
I would like this to be all genders inclusive, and we can use tags as necessary.
[Addition] I strongly feel that we can all find beauty and appreciate the human body in all forms. I'm all ok with simply scrolling past posts that I don't find match my preferences.
Let's hear more opinions. Thanks much for your input .
My preference would be to split the community into different genders (F, M, Tf, Tm, etc) so everyone can subscribe to the subset of who they want to see - have sidebar/sticky-post links to all of them from all of them of course.
Otherwise everything that isn't cis-female gets lost in the shuffle anyway as soon as there is enough content.
(I really wish Gonewild would do this too, and not for my own sake, since it's reached that content threshold and I very rarely see posts I would skip, but so others can see them easily and the creators could be recognized)
I understand your point - though lemmynsfw is still smallish that I fear fragmenting would just make everything even "smaller".
Let's see how much content and posters we will have in the next month or so.
I simply don't want to peg folks into special groups or tell them to go to "your" corner(s). The larger the audience, the more diversity we'll have and appreciate.
That makes sense - I think the way around forced labeling of people is to make it a recommendation rather than a requirement.
I was still referring to having separate communities instead of tags, but I do suppose it applies to tags also.
Personally for me, I'm here mainly to help ensure that this community doesn't get banned due to lack of moderation, and to help form and coordinate a new mod team that will allow all of us to have fun.
I have started various other communities, and most of you can probably tell my preferences by what I post, as well as via my profile. Always glad to DM/chat with new (and old) friends
I’m just noticing that many posts do not follow the rules you’ve laid out for sourcing / attribution. That requirement is much more than many many boards ask for, but if you’re going to make it a rule, shouldn’t it be enforced?
The rules were just put in very late yesterday for comments and feedback and theoretically still under construction. There's not much we'll do for grandfathered posts... [edited for grammar]
Thanks for your posts and helping to set good examples going forward. Do you have any opinions wrt non-OC sourcing rules?
It’s tricky. I’ll share my thoughts but please bear in mind I’m just talking here - no judgments. I think this is a tough topic.
First I don’t think the distinction between OC and non-OC content is clear. And while the rules show concern for OC creators, technically it’s not great to repost copyrighted commercial photos either. These places thrive on unauthorized posting of content, and there’s no way around it. Having any rules about consent and permission open a whole can of worms about why anything should be allowed to be posted without proper permissions.
On top of this it’s unrealistic to expect people to stop and secure permission before posting. There will be some cases of that but mostly they just won’t. So the rules wind up appearing like ass-covering. As if you know realistically that no one is securing permission, but you can always point to the rules and absolve yourself of blame because you did set some rules. This also seems like a solution with mixed integrity.
So what are we to do? I think a lot of times the ultimate choice mods make is to moderate cases of consent and permission reactively. If you can’t trust others to gain permission, you can at least be very responsive if anyone ever complains. Make it clear how to file such a request, and consider some kind of disciplinary suspensions for users who post such content, just to make them think twice in future.
I dunno… it’s hard. These are just my unstructured thoughts.
Tricky
Indeed - that word has been used by everyone, including all the admins of this instance, but it is also very apropos. Thank you very much for your honest feedback and I (and perhaps others too) will try to respond more fully later as time permits.
these places thrive on unauthorized posting of content, and there’s no way around it.
I totally understand the "wild west" appeal of having no rules and this particular aspect. I am totally guilty of it too and I helped build up Reddit NSFW traffic for years doing such. As well as tens of thousands of spammers and karma farmers and repost spambots that have no regard for rules and will do whatever they want to do.
More later...
First I don’t think the distinction between OC and non-OC content is clear. it’s unrealistic to expect people to stop and secure permission before posting.
Here's how I see the distinctions - will try to put some of this into sidebar too later if this makes sense - after suggestions, recommendations, edits, etc. Whew!
1 and 2c are where some indication of consent is requested/required to comply with lemmyNSFW instance-wide rules, even if the user is not here on Lemmy. Some models may freely have given permissions cart blanche or privately, so you can provide such indication. When in doubt and you are too lazy, don't post
2a content is generally shared under DMCA fair-use practice and won't require consent permission.
2b is stuff that may be "fun" and "exciting" to share, but also carry many risks as you have no idea under what context these images may be taken: revenge porn, non-consensual, potenially underage, etc., and would go against rule 5 (Rule Five) No Non-Consensual Content of overall lemmyNSFW rules
Whew - hope this helps. I'm sure I've missed some distinctions and special cases....
Hey guys, from now on I will also help as a mod in this community. Thank you @b9999998! Personally I would also be completely fine with male posts here, but I would see why some users could dislike it. Maybe it would be better to create a new community specifically for adorable male posts?
As I got a chance to think more, I now strongly feel we should be all inclusive. Gender does not have a monopoly on the term "adorable", and I'd hate to create various us vs them camps. Having said that, if someone wants to create such new communities to be able to feel safer in, I would support that too.
There will always be someone that "dislikes" something, and that's OK too - this is a free instance/community and there is no way to appease everyone.
[Update] For now, I've included this in the sidebar - with some more wordsmithing to do...
Gender inclusive
unfortunately I don’t know yet all the proper preferred terms beyond [M], [F] so please tag accordingly.
Awesome. I think this is a good solution to not have fragmented communities and be inclusive! ❤️
Y'all seem to have lost the plot on what adorable is. I called out some seductive eyed tattooed up woman for not being adorable and got deleted for being a troll. Stop simping for every woman who asks if they're adorable and have some standards.