Bosch ebike ABS Interoperability Opens Up For Blubrake & More with EU Antitrust Ruling

https://bikerumor.com/bosch-ebike-abs-interoperability-opens-up-for-blubrake-more-with-eu-antitrust-ruling/

As we increasingly see proprietary standards and closed systems in the cycling industry, a significant court decision in Italy looks set to open ebike ABS,…

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JayleneSlide

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Is anyone else contemptuous of proprietary systems on bicycles? The spiraling complexity and lack of interoperability even on acoustic bike drivetrains really chaps my ass.

Just me? Fine, I'll slink back to my retrogrouch hidey-hole now. 😆

While I don't see the need for bicycle ABS in any of my riding, I do see why some may find it helpful. And this lawsuit seems like a step in the right direction for interoperability.

FartsWithAnAccent

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Nope, I hate proprietary bullshit in all things especially bikes. Right to repair ftw!

MentalEdge

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No, not just you.

Putting together a drivetrain is a fucking pain in the ass because even when shit is interoperable, there is no documentation confirming that.

Just as an example, I have a bike with shifters that attach to the brake levers. Neat, minimalist.

Except the brakes and brake levers are kinda shit, so I'd like to replace them. Except then I'd need a new shifter. Ok fine.

But wait, the derailleur uses an unusual cable-pull-interval that shimano used on literally just this one derailleur-shifter combo, so now I need a new derailleur that'll work with the new shifter.

It's fucking infuriating.

br3d

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If it's a tiny bit of comfort, you probably don't need a new derailleur, just a new cassette with the right spacing. The mech itself will likely work with different cable-pull, as long as you're not drastically changing the number of sprockets on the cassette

MentalEdge

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I know.

It's a Tiagra 4700 (works really fucking well, actually) which is 10-speed, but it for some ass-backwards reason uses 11-speed cable pull (but with the actuation for a 10-speed cassette), which isn't disclosed anywhere.

So it'll work as-is with any 11-speed shifter, as long as you make sure the mech stops are set so you can't shift off the cassette.

Geometrinen_Gepardi

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It's a slow slide into proprietary everything with no user serviceable parts. Same as with cars.

FartsWithAnAccent

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"Sorry, we can't do standardized parts across the board or make repairs simple, (or affordable) but we can do a bright-ass dangerously distracting 3 foot LED panel with no god damn tactile cues so you are forced to look at it when driving and maybe kill a person or something IDFKLMAO. Btw, our cars are now 50% heavier with 60% reduced cabin visibility, enjoy!"

-Car companies

ulterno

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My bike has a good enough self-learning AI ABS, called "my hand".

Oh, this was about eBikes, not the foot pedal kind. Sorry

FartsWithAnAccent

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I thought I'd read about stuff like that on regular bikes too but IDK, I'm still riding a Trek 820 with mechanical V-brakes lol

Grass

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abs on bikes seems odd...

but does that bike in the picture measure speed by counting the holes in the brake rotor? That seems much better than the common magnet on a spoke method