Florida is Patient Zero for American Fascism and the Libs Do Not Have an Answer to that Under the Constitution
Yes liberals aren't great and all. But this is sort of brain injury levels of dysfunction. A state level issue in a state where it's elected officials are attacking the citizens. And people whine about why the out of power largely unelected group isn't exercising more power? Because your mother f****** neighbors didn't put them in power. For all the problems liberals have. This is a voter problem. I'm not sure what they're hoping or expecting? New York or California to invade and set up a provisional government pending new elections?
People who bitch about "the libs" are usually tankies so anything short of rising up in violence to "do somthing" is doing nothing.
I don't know that I would go quite that far. But if I had a dollar for every time I saw someone doing that. And then looking at their Post history to see them defending similar actions elsewhere. I would have a nice little nest egg.
There absolutely are genuine criticisms of capitalism. Unfortunately people often disingenuously make them. Especially leninists. If there's two groups who have no business criticizing each other it's capitalists and leninists. They're both just awful.
libs always advocate for moderation and when the right wing does fascism they either do not react appropriately or side with them saying something like "this time it's necessary, once some arbitrary thing happens/elections are won we'll stop fascism" I'm not even talking about the USA. Look at France right now. Libs allied with leftists, now they are backing fascists. Ultimately fascists do fascism, but moderates have been enabling them for decades now.
Yea god forbid anyone say anything about democrats that isn't unconditional ass kissing and point out how little they care about fascism
Ronnie, you silly goof. What will you do when you term-limit out of power and have no one you can bully. I think I'll start sending you love letters about how I want to lick the pudding from your fingers while gazing into your heartless empty eyes.
The term limit is Constitutional so he should have got something on the ballot this cycle if he wanted that changed. Here's the kicker though, it's not a lifetime limit. He can't serve more than 2 consecutive terms but he could come back in 2030.
Considering he's had laws Changed in the past to protect his position, this wasn't a crazy thought. It sent me doing research to see if it was possible.
Florida Constitution not US. And no President can change the US Constitution or State's
Well, not without enough support from congress + senate. While Trump might not have the power for that initially, they can just use an administrative state packed with Trump loyalists to attack democrats.
At first thought, this was a crazy idea, but I did a little looking.
It turns out that Article Four Section 4 of the United States Constitution requires Congress to ensure that every state has a Republican form of government.
Pretty sure in Florida he can come back for another 2 terms after sitting 1 term out
If this is like California, the proposition process allows the gathering of signatures and if enough are collected, the proposition goes to the ballot for direct democracy vote, bypassing the legislature in many cases.
I’ve never heard of police going to verify signatures directly. But it’s not technically voting.
Similar in Florida, after enough voted the amendment is placed onto the ballot and needs to get over 60% of votes on election night. I’ve never heard of officers investigating indivual petitioners, but petition / signature fraud is illegal, so I don’t believe this is technically voter intimidation.
Oh it’s definitely voter intimidation, they’re just using the law as a thinly veiled excuse to do it.
If someone put their name down for something, and the cops come knocking on their door about it, how many people do you think are really going to follow through and vote.
If they can find you because of a signature, they might find how you voted. And who’s to say they’ll just be asking questions next time.
This is classic mob tactics.
Generally, verifying signatures is a function of the Auditor's office, but who knows, maybe the swat team does that in Florida.
News article from a local paper with more details and interviews with voters that were questioned.
Watch as nothing happens and Floridians still elect a representative that wipes his arse with the constitution at every election
At what point does Biden send in the national guard to liberate these poor people from dictatorship? He's legally allowed to do it now right?
Floridians still elect a representative that wipes his arse with the constitution
Step 1: Take all the Floridians that oppose the fascist state and arrest them. Try them with felonies. Then strip them of their voting rights under felony disenfranchisement (which was repealed in 2018, but then the state legislature said "No" and so the amendment got ignored).
Step 2: Now hold a new election and... looks like the conservatives win again!
Step 3: Pass a bunch of new fascist policies and pay off your friends. Oh, but you've upset some new people. Looks like they're protesting. Better... GOTO Step 1
Damn. Why don't Floridians just vote the fascists out? Guess they're all just fine with it.
The constitution is an outdated pact between slavers in order to violently control people. It's working as intended. It's actually not a magic document from god.
Pretty sure the liberal answer is "organize, donate, and for fucks sake, go vote" to keep these assholes from getting more power.
The leftist answer is to do nothing and just endlessly complain about liberals on the internet.
Leftist or tankie? Because plenty of leftists are sick of the blame the liberals schtick.
Potentially going to PRISON which would literally RUIN YOUR LIFE UNTIL YOU DIE for Signing a Ballot is PROOF that FLORIDA IS THE FREEST STATE ON EARTH!
Merrick Garland isn't going to interrupt a conservative colleague unless congress publicly shames him first.
Okay, sure, it sounds unconstitutional. And yes, it does appear that this DOJ is sitting back and letting it happen. But the DOJ under Trump would be worse, so you have to say nice things about Merrick Garland.
"I won't answer any questions without my lawyer present. If you don't have a warrant please leave my property "
Soap box, ballot box, bullet box.
I wonder if these jack boots are wearing level 4 plates.
There is a solution to this, but it is not a peaceful or quick one. Most non-conservatives won't consider it. Most conservatives know this, and so they continue on their path to full oppression.
Drowning the black disenfranchised minority to punish the plutocrats who will simply pick and and infest a different state like rats fleeing a sinking ship.
I think someone posted this somewhere in the chain: https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/elections/2024/09/06/florida-abortion-amendment-petition-signature-fraud-voters/
I’ve really come to peace with this. I want to make lots of posts that and touch on many things, shallowly, even. Like. I do write good things and do more than just the barest funnest parts of research and verification, but like. This is the [very occasionally]shitty Anarcho socialist america bad side blog.
Well, I have you tagged as disinformation so unless you can backup these posts with pesky things like facts and research I'll be annoying you in each of your shallow posts.
Betcha Elon "free speech absolutist" Musk has a lot to say about this. Any minute now.
...crickets...
That's what the periodic expansion of the Supreme Court is for... Should that happen, it won't be the first time it's expanded, and may not be the last. Seems to the officially nominated fix, but it might need to eventually be shrunk again if such a process is to work every time.
News article from a local paper with more details and interviews with voters that were questioned.
