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i learned recently that this is a false premise; the frogs will get out when the water gets too warm for them. which imo makes its proliferation even more apt; it makes sense that they would, but we've so used to the narrative that we keep this factoid going without questioning it.
I pointed this our recently in another thread and people got real bent out of shape about it, it was weird.
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People don't like the things they believe to be challenged, and many people fail to recognize what is a belief and what is a fact.
It's the problem with knowing enough to not know how little you actually do (know).
Am I seeing shapeism here? Why do you think you can dictate the shape people choose for themselves?
Just like falling down when you get shot.
Unless you're shot in the legs or your injury would otherwise impede you from standing, you wouldn't naturally fall down.
However, movies and TV have drilled it into our minds that you fall from being shot to the point that we DO fall because we're SO DAMN CONVINCED that that's what happens!
hmmm, like they don't do a Hollywood fall, but they do often just drop. sack of potatoes style. there's a lot of stuff in you that could make you stop standing if it got shot. it's not guaranteed, but depending on caliber, it can be quite likely that they will fall. just straight down or in the direction of their existing momentum usually.
I've heard high velocity rounds (such as rifle rounds) send a kind of shockwave through your body. Dunno if it's true or not.
oh it's very true! generally when a bullet enters the body the damage it does spreads out like a cone from entrance to exit as more displaced material is accelerated and the shockwave travels outward. that's why the exit wound is generally many times larger than the entrance wound. a large enough round at a high enough velocity will start taking chunks out of people. that's why many were concerned the m16 wouldn't have enough stopping power when it was first being brought to the battlefield, it used a smaller round than the ak-47. it's not about the size of the bullet, it's about the amount of energy it can impart into the target. a heavier, wider round will create a much larger wound channel. the difference in damage done is much greater than the difference in the size of the bullet.
there are also a variety of specific types of bullets that can affect the wound created and the damage done internally. for example, in smaller, slower rounds that might struggle to create this expanding wound channel effect, they might use hollow point bullets. bullets that are made to expand and/or break apart after impact. creating a larger wound and transferring the energy of the round into the target's organs better.
generally, you can expect that anyone using guns designed to kill humans to be able to damage an area at least 4 times the size of the bullet with every shot. often more, sometimes less. so when you think about getting shot and whether it will hit your internal organs imagine the bullets are more like softballs. because that's the size of the exit wound they'll create. that is why i say it's generally unlikely that you won't fall when shot with intent to kill. i do specifically man using a weapon of war, not a .22 backpack rifle. honestly, people get shot with small caliber handguns often enough. they probably usually don't need to fall over. might feel like it though. i know i tend to sit down when I'm hurt badly enough.
uhh... I'm not a gun nut btw. i generally support sensible gun control and would even like to see something like Australia's method thought about for here (America). I'm just autistic and blame mythbusters for sending me down that rabbit hole when i was younger.
I've seen enough combat footage of real people dying to real bullets to know that they do just drop down.
That's what I'm saying: Hollywood invented it and was so persuasive that people just subconsciously think it's automatic almost no matter where the bullet hits
I don't think you realize what it feels like to get shot. I can promise you don't fall because "I'm supposed to fall! That's what happens in the movies!" You don't even realize you're shot for many seconds or even a full minute or more afterwards. So your theory holds no water.
All you realize is blinding pain. You literally don't even register the impact until you're already on the ground.
i think its a good way to illustrate how 'they' change things for the worse incrementally so we get used to it. and not much else, it does its job.
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not only that imo, with this extra layer it serves to illustrate how the complacency is not innate. everybody has a breaking point, but we have been told that we will just take it if it is gradual enough.
Isn't the thing less about them not getting out, but about them getting out way later than if the water was hotter initially?
I don't remember that it was implied that they would die from overheating - just that their reaction is delayed as the body gets used to higher temperatures
Or, I don't talk politics to YOU. I talk politics all the time, even people I know hard disagree with me on major things. The thing is, we can stay civil, if hard facts are introduced that prove a point one person is making, or show why someone's idea is wrong, it will be actually considered. When I say this, it is usually because I know that person can't do this, or I am in an environment where this can hurt my life, like work.
Memes are so frustrating when they serve not only progressives but also crazy right truthers.
I’m not dyslexic and if you didn’t tell me that font was for treating I would have just thought it’s a cute stylized font
We're sprinting toward WW3 and subsequent nuclear Armageddon on at least two different fronts right now, but that won't be a slowly increasing boil, that will several big "booms" preceded by some heat blasts that are hot enough to melt concrete.
The brilliant minds of Lemmy yesterday: " we're way past caring about GHG emissions" when talking about the LLM-craze of 2023.
Nice!
https://lemmy.world/comment/12081117
Some on Lemmy are still pro-LLMs. Quite a lot of folks actually.
Yeah I remember that thread. Sorry you are arguing with someone there, with zero upvotes other than their own. Now go look at the top voted comment in that thread.
Anyway I think there are a lot of Lemmy that want the AI bubble to finally pop, myself included.