https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/27/pennsylvania-state-university-black-hispanic-grade-claims/
Zack De Piero is suing Pennsylvania State University over claims he and other white staff were racially discriminated against
This article itself is pretty factual, to be fair. All the quotes are taken verbatim from the lawsuit, which you can read here:
https://www.fairforall.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Zach-De-Piero-Complaint.pdf
That doesn't mean that De Peiro's claims are true, of course, but the Telegraph does appear to have reported them accurately.
Why do you believe it’s factual simply from reading the complaint? The Daily Telegraph does no follow-ups, interviews, or fact-checking (what we in the business might call “journalism”). It simply reports on the complaint and cowardly allows you to draw your own conclusions.
So we must ask: why did a right-wing propaganda outlet report this so uncritically? They have a well-established lack of interest in journalism. So what purpose was served by publishing this article and in this way?
This is why I posted it’s a bad source, and this is the problem with bad sources. Even the “factual” articles they publish are purposefully misleading at best… and total misrepresentations at worst.
It's factual because it accurately reported the claims made in the lawsuit. Journalists do this all the time.
Obviously the Telegraph chose to publish this story because it appeals to the political leanings of their readership, but virtually all newspapers do that to a certain degree.
It seems you have fallen into the trap of automatically dismissing the source/article as "propaganda" because its political viewpoint differs from your own.
Journalists do this all the time.
No, bad sources do this all the time. Actual journalists from good sources do things like:
Has any of that been done here? Why do you suppose not?
Obviously the Telegraph chose to publish this story because it appeals to the political leanings of their readership, but virtually all newspapers do that to a certain degree.
Because some sources are biased, we must accept a source as massively and obviously biased as the Daily Telegraph? Take your flimsy equivocation fallacies elsewhere. We can draw a line, and that line should certainly exclude places as bad as the Daily Telegraph.
It seems you have fallen into the trap of automatically dismissing the source/article as “propaganda” because its political viewpoint differs from your own.
No... I'm dismissing it because the Daily Telegraph is a bad source and it only publishes articles to serve its own purposes, which have nothing to do with truth or facts. Its political leanings are obviously horrible and idiotic but have nothing to do with the simple fact that they are a bad source.
If you think journalists routinely delve into extensive, detailed investigations based off a simple press release then I would say you've been watching too many movies.
I somehow doubt that you hold media sources that align with your own political persuasions to such exacting scrutiny.
Did I say anything about an extensive, detailed investigation? Does it appear they did literally any work, even up to and including picking up the nearest telephone and calling… well, basically anyone?
(Here’s a secret, me to you; I bet they did do that and they didn’t like what they uncovered. It’s okay though, they decided not to publish it.)
Not sure what sources I consume have anything to do with the quality of the Daily Telegraph. If I got my daily news from Sesame Street, would that suddenly make the Daily Telegraph an acceptable source?
The fact that they chose to report those claims in itself is part of their bias. Those kind of stories will always pop up if you give certain people platforms. Factual journalism would have required investigating the credibility of the claims before broadcasting them to the world.
No, it wouldn't. Journalists report on the content of upcoming lawsuits all the time. It's up for the law courts to decided the validity of legal claims being made, not the media.
There are millions lawsuits in the US being filed every year. A certain number are absolute nonsense. Filing a lawsuit does not mean jack in and of itself and as such should not be reported on unless elements of credibility can at the very least be ascertained.
The courts will decide based on their own data and laws, but that does not mean journalists should not verify if the information they are broadcasting has at the very least a shred of credibility. Else you are just picking and choosing propaganda to broadcast.
he alleges he was targeted by a bullying and harassment complaint and lower performance reviews.
…Yeah, dude seems sus. Sounds like he’s mad at the school because they cracked down on his own racism.
Right? Also this:
The filing claims he was told to attend “anti-racist workshops” and it was suggested he might have mental health issues.
Talk about burying the lede.
The Telegraph is probably one of the blandest news sources on the web. I've never once heard them described as "extreme," in any sense.
Then you have not been paying attention.
James Hacker: I know exactly who reads the papers. The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country. The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country. The Times is read by people who actually do run the country. The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country. The Financial Times is read by people who own the country. The Morning Star is read by the people who think the country should be run by another country. And the Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Prime Minister, what about the people who read the Sun?
Bernard Woolley: The Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.
cant really speak for everyone but I'd think that eventually all of the news communities will consolidate into this or one of the World News communities. it doesnt make sense to have 150 different news groups.
I’m not sure I have an opinion on affirmative action generally, but it strikes me that it will be difficult if not impossible for the two camps to find middle ground on the issue - because ensuring equality of treatment and equity of outcomes are probably mutually exclusive.
Said differently, I can see how you can either truly treat everyone the same, or try to make sure everyone has equality of opportunity/outcome, and to be sure both are individually a reasonable goal on paper.
The problem is, they can’t both be true. Either everyone has the same treatment, which doesn’t solve the problem of some people starting the race far behind the starting line; or the system tries to compensate for disadvantages, which inherently means that not all participants are afforded the same treatment.
Hard to see how to resolve that deadlock.
That is quite patronizing towards those students. Basically saying that they aren't as smart as white people. Oh how all this woke crap comes full circle