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https://ostechnix.com/linux-market-share-july-2024-report/
Been doing my part since October last year, have no intention to stop. Linux is awesome!
Wasn't that site that claimed they don't count steam deck?, also, 90% of people only uses steam deck for gaming, not web browsing
I checked the stats for the last 4 years here and it looks really strange. Statistics isn't my thing... But it looks like it's wise to be cautious and not to fully trust the numbers.
Around the beginning of last year there was a huge dip in the Windows market share that seemed to be correlating with a peek in "unknown". Windows then catched up in a somewhat erratic matter.
Mac OS also shows a weird behavior. Starts at 16%, up to 21% and the down to 14% between October and November...
It's not likely that a huge number of people decided to buy a Mac and then trash it I've month later. Samr but opposite goes for the windows stats.
I think it looks like there is an uncertainty of more than the total market share Linux is shown to have..
Not saying that Linux isn't increasing on desktop market share. Just saying that numbers seen to have quite a bit error margin and to be cautious if referring to these numbers.
If it is counting website visits, I'm wondering how they are filtering out bots using selenium on a linux system to crawl their sites. That should be a huge amount of traffic
Anyone using bots that are openly bots would be limiting their shit to robots.txt. Anyone who is out trawling the whole website is probably obfuscating what they're doing by spoofing new user agents.
I think a trendline would be nice here. I think the result will be roughly Mac -0.25%/y, Windows -1%/y and Linux +0.5% per year and unknown +1%/y.
I think however that just like 2024 that 2025 will be the year of the Linux desktop and adoption will start a steep climb up an S curve.
Is each Steam Deck counted as a desktop Linux machine whether or not it is ever used as one?
The count is from web visits somehow, so I don't think so. You'd have to visit a web site that was contributing data for it to count.
So every steam deck that visits the websites that track this counts? It's probably not many, but it's certainly likely there are a few counted.
This website collects OS through the browser on website visits. But unless you're browsing the web on Steam Deck on a regular basis, they'll never register it.
It already is in the sense that you are expected to pay with ongoing access to all of your data.
Just two weeks ago, I switched over my main PC, my Laptop and my Lenovo Miix 2 to Manjaro Linux.
This was single-handedly my doing is what I am trying to say.
I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux
for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.
Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.
the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.
But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros
If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite
If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos
If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.
Nice. I switched from Manjaro KDE to Manjaro XFCE. Check out Tilda - it's a drop down Quake style terminal, I use ctrl + ~ https://micg.net/the-way-it-should-be-manjaro-xfce-the-lightweight-linux-desktop/
Personally, I am going to stick with KDE - my main PC has 256GiB of memory (It's a 2016 CAD workstation that I stuck a GTX 1080 in), so I really don't care that much about memory. But even on my lower end bay-trail lenovo tablet, KDE doesn't seem much worse than XFCE and by sticking with KDE, I don't have to "learn" both Desktop environments. KDE came with it's own drop-down terminal called Yakuake, btw. But I want to use the terminal as little as necessary.
At first I installed Arch on my main rig, but I then decided to switch to manjaro because I am worried that Arch might be a bit more "volatile" when it comes to updates than a more "stable" distro like manjaro.
My first experience with Linux was 15 years ago, when I switched to ubuntu Linux as my Laptop OS for 2 years, and within the first week of installing it, I saw the words "uninstalling gnome-desktop" appear during a distro-upgrade, and being a linux noob, reinstalling my system afterwards seemed to be the quicker sollution to the system rebooting to a shell only. I'd prefer that not happening again.
At first I installed Arch on my main rig, but I then decided to switch to manjaro because I am worried that Arch might be a bit more “volatile” when it comes to updates than a more “stable” distro like manjaro.
Their "stable" releases are fake. They literally just wait two weeks and don't perform ANY tests, the manjaro team is ridiculously incompetent.
How do I know this?
They shipped an update to steam that uninstalled the desktop environment, this should've easily been caught in their two week period if they performed ANY tests at all, and they did not. Manjaro is an incredibly incompetent distro that has had fiasco after fiasco.
I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux
for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.
Y'know how it's not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips... this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.
the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there's no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.
But if what you're looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros
If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite
If you're a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos
If you don't care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.
Couple weeks ago switched to Mint on my main rig. Since then I also installed Linux on my wifes old laptop. It works great, runs fast and it was 99% a painless transition. With my Steam Deck thats 3 Linux devices in our household.
I wish I coud touch the win 11 on my work laptop as well.
Also fuck Microsoft.
I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux
for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.
Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.
the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.
But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros
If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite
If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos
If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.
Oh look how awesome windows 11 is going! Let me drag this Linux factoid onto my edge presentation, no I mean my power point that I have running on edge. I mean the edge in this teams running power point from this remote desktop running on edge thru a teams behind a VPN under an edge running power point running edge in teams running.....10 years later.....fuck this shit! I'm running Linux!
I suggest Manjaro. Debian's always 5 versions behind, and Ubuntu's 'selling security' - Fedora's good though.
Oh shit....https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Debian-based_distributions
I didn't think there would be so many. I've used knopix many times before.
I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux
for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.
Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.
the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.
But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros
If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite
If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos
If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.
I use Ubuntu already on all my installs except for the kid's computer which looks like a virus made windows and then installed over another virus, and the wife's PC.
Do you think that I could successfully win them over to Linux?
But yeah I'm thinking to move out of Ubuntu but I want debian or compatible. I want a simple Linux that does all my usual Linux stuff. Lots of people recommend Arch.
Lots of people recommend Arch
Arch really is a hands-on distro. Installing it can feel like an accomplishment and a learning experience, but particularly when you have other people using the system, you might be better off with a less hands-on distro like manjaro (which is based on arch) or mint (based on ubuntu).
Mind you, even when using manjaro, you are legally not allowed to say "I use Arch, btw".
I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux
for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.
Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.
the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.
But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros
If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite
If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos
If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.
Has anyone ever tried to carry out a stochastic analysis of the data? I'd never thought about it, but the webpage's way of representing the data makes it seem like we're watching the stock market.