It's a little unfair to the first Alien movie. It's been a while, but the first one is often hailed as an example of everyone acting as intelligently as makes sense for the character's job and motivation.
Prometheus in the other hand... I think Ridley Scott doesn't respect scientists very much.
Scott obviously hates scientists or is completely oblivious to how science works. The crew is the least scientific group of people ever assembled on film.
The Prometheus cost a trillion dollars and Wayland is betting his life on the success of the mission, but off the top of my head:
He should have brought the scientists and engineers that designed, tested and built the ship itself, because they were good.
I mean the list is just goes on and on about how unscientific the mission is. There's a whole cottage industry of youtubers pointing out the innumerable flaws in that movie.
I mean seriously. What the fuck.
I forgot about the autodoc only being set for Male. And it was just a software setting! Like, why?
Of all the bad ideas to happen in that movie, including the "let's not let the audience know what the robot said to the alien", that has to be the most baffling. All it did was break immersion. Why couldn't the ship have fallen over and slid down the mountain? It's would have been as terrifying as an avalanche in a survival movie.
FYI if you really want to know there's a guy on YouTube (Kroft) that has done dozens of very good videos on the Alien movies. He breaks down what was said as it was in the original script. And it's interesting and would have made a better movie, but I think Scott chickened out of the potential controversy.
Long and short of it is that >!2000 years ago the Engineers had taken a human to their home world and trained him and enlightened him and sent him back to earth to spread the message but his compatriots nailed him to a cross.!<
!The Engineers, therefore, decided that our race was a failed experiment and decided to exterminate us but their own weapons got away from them and killed them before they could pull it off.!<
There's more to it, but go watch Kroft's videos if you want to know more.
The entire crew acted like idiots for most of the movie. I guess that's what happens when you negotiate the lowest paying contracts that you can. Remember the guy complaining about his contract for the first 1/3 of the movie?
I'd be complaining even more if I survived into the last 3/4th of the film. I didn't sign up to fight aliens. I signed up to sleep for months at a time because I don't even know what their actual job was supposed to be (were they miners or something? They were transporting ore IIRC)
I don't think Mother or the Android(drawing a blank on his name) would have allowed this.
i want a "saving the world" movie where the sole reason the team is able to do it is because everyone else is a horror movie moron and the protagonists tell them to stop doing stupid shit.
"I think he's a serial killer! He's waiting outside to catch us!"
"Ok call 911, lock the doors."
"We don't have service!"
"Ok use 911 over WiFi"
"They'll never get here in time, were in the middle of nowhere"
Texts geolocation of serial killer to police
FBI easily arrests meat face man who only move at a walking pace
And I'll add the disclaimer that it might be a just too close to reality. I was expecting a comedy and I ended being just depressed because I could see the world going down that route.
Too fucking depressing, especially when you realize the same sort of moronic attitudes, anti-intellectualism and inertia for byrocracys sake have existed on ones life for too many years, but one has just grown too accustomed to it. It really fucking makes one hate itself and makes one want to do SOMETHING to break these monkey people's moronic inertia against everything that might make the world a better place for as many people as possible. Fuck, is this self the r word? Im drunk, I dont know.
What do you mean? Do you know how dirty the dining table gets and then you have to clean the bulkhead. Check lights and buttons. Make sure the ship is pointed in the right direction and going the right speed. 90 minutes of content right there!
I unironically want a slice-of-life space film where it's just humans wandering around their grubby lived-in space ship being people in the 31st century.
At least in its good seasons, when they remembered they were making a sitcom over monster of the week type stuff.
It blows my mind when people defend Prometheus and Covenant. ESPECIALLY when they say either one is their fave of the franchise. WTF
Just as Starbucks coffee is coffee for people who don't like coffee, Prometheus and Covenant are Alien movies for people who don't like Alien movies.
I'll be honest, I kinda like Prometheus. I think it has some absolutely gorgeous scenes, although the plot is pretty bad. Covenant is in the same vein, with less beautiful scenes and a worse plot
The thing that killed Prometheus was entirely the script. Set design? Great. CGI? Great. Acting? Great.
But when everyone character acts exactly opposite of what their chosen profession was, I can only come to the conclusion that Ridley Scott has a deep disrespect for Scientists.
The Geologist/Cave Mapper got lost. The Archeologist contaminated the site. The Biologist didn't recognize a treat response. The Anthropologist couldn't separate her work from her religious beliefs. I can see the subtext that Scott was going for and I disagree with it.
the director's cut is 2421 panels long includes 34 more characters and a time travel subplot
Source: @SmoothDunk on Twitter. (Despite the fact that not everyone can see links from the hellsite anymore, crediting sources is still the cool thing to do.)
Is that a religion to a specific movie, or just the genre in general?
Edit: reference
Prometheus has no excuse on the plot of playing with the baby alien/proto-facehugger. The dude is a biologist and should have known better not to play with any potentially dangerous animals, especially an unknown alien animal!
Prometheus scientists made the Life scientists seem like some of the most competent people to ever grace media
OT, but I never googled Ridley Scott to know how they look like (or even gender) but in my mind the face that pops up is Sigourney Weaver. And no disrespect but I kinda like it :D
I seriously thought ridley Scott was sigourney weaver for the longest time until people saying "he" I'm like I'm sure Ellen Ripley is female.
