"Oh so they are also gay?" /s
Absolutely I hate how the transphobes first tried to use it as an excuse to attack them, and then when it turned out they weren't even trans, they doubled down even more.
What this shows is that right now this hate can be used against literally anyone, all they have to do is to label their target.
It does feel a bit like the Nazism in the early 20th century.
"You know that thing you don't understand and therefore don't like? Well they are that thing!!!! GET 'EM!"
the transphobes first tried to use it as an excuse to attack them, and then when it turned out they weren't even trans, they doubled down even more.
I'm not familiar with this case. Can you elaborate on what happened and your take on it pls?
From what I gather, she was born a woman and has always identified as a woman. There is no public concrete evidence that argues otherwise. She is therefore not trans. Still, the International Boxing Committee disqualified her and another boxer for failing a gender eligibility test, though they didn't specify on what grounds. Then, another Olympian got their ass handed to them, so they said it was unfair that Khelif was able to participate. what???
Ironically, if there is absolutely no evidence that Khelif is trans, then by their own standards, the ones hurting gender-based fairness in sports are the transphobes.
The IBC has been suspended by the IOC for corruption and match fixing and Khelif and Yu Ting were only disqualified from the world championships after Khelif beat a Russian boxer who was then advanced in her place.
Ironically, the corrupt Russian president was elected based partially on promises of reform to fix the governance and finance issues that prompted the IBC's 2019 suspension.
The International Boxing Committee was taken over by a Russian oligarch & the the first disqualified boxer defeated a Russian boxer.
Wonderful picture and sentiment, but the black mouth guard making it look like she had no teeth made me double take, lol.
Sure do. I also hope more fact checking becomes part of press, media and social media. It isn't healthy to have masses run wild with their theories based on little to no evidence and end up harassing one individual.
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Simple solution to all this: We don't have divisions based on gender. We simply measure testosterone and have a high-T and low-T division. Anyone can compete in the high-T but high-T can't compete in the low-T division.
I just want to say that the Chinese athletes have been nothing but professional and wholesome throughout the current Olympic!
I'm so glad this turned out successful for her.
Imagine, like all Olympic athletes, she worked her ass off for months and years to get there. To be the best in her sport she can be. Sacrificing a lot in the process, including some of her femininity, building up what is considered masculine muscles and body parts. Boxing isn't a feminine sport, you can't do it without building a lot of muscle mass that isn't very feminine. And btw heavy weight training on a professional level can also result in a hormonal inbalance in women where the estrogen levels fall and the body produces more testosterone.
Then she gets there after all this work and sacrifice, just wanting to concentrate on her sport and being the best athlete she can be and the whole world just ripps her apart. And instead of focusing on her competitions, she is constantly bombarded by bigots and know-it -alls who think they have a right to judge and question her body.
Not trying to counter your point, but female athletes that don’t dope don’t ever become super muscular. Like, look at Khelif. She has just proven she is the best in the world in a combat sport, and she still doesn’t look muscular to the point of looking male. The transphobes mainly came at her because her face isn’t super feminine, which doesn’t really have anything to do with boxing.
I occasionally hear women saying they don’t want to do workouts that target their upper body, and I’m always baffled because it’s not like they’ll ever even slightly look like a dude lol.
She has just proven she is the best in the world in a combat sport, and she still doesn’t look muscular to the point of looking male.
Yeah. Furthermore, if you want to show off, you definitely can do certain exercises to strengthen muscles and get a more 'toned' look, but one of the strongest women in the world looks like this ordinary gal:
And, hell, look at this guy, one of the strongest men in the world
He doesn't look like a musclebound bodybuilder, he looks like a big trucker dude who frequents your local bar.
Real, practical muscles rarely look like what it's thought of. You definitely see some development, but not nearly as much as people think.
Is it transphobia when she isn't trans? Stop feeding the trolls. I bet she didn't ask anybody for opinions either way.
Good for her on winning
Yes, transphobia can be aimed at cis people, just as it’s still homophobic to call a straight man a f*g.
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yes it is. when sikhs got terrorized it was still islamophobia, and when cis men are bullied for being effeminate it's still misogyny and/or homophobia.
what do you mean feeding the trolls? this is not trolling. this is transphobes being brain broken and paranoid so they're transvestigating cis people. fucking jowling kowling took part in it.
it's not trolling, it's bigotry. you don't stay silent on bigotry.
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In my opinion you don't get sympathy points for being incompetent at transphobia. They were treating her like shit because they hate trans people. The fact that she's not trans doesn't change that.
stop feeding the trolls
Like what? The newspapers that called her trans and said she didn't have any place in the sport??
So should bigotry just be ignored then, even when it's mainstream? Just look the other way?
"mainstream media" - you mean like this echo chamber? I literally never would have heard of this nonsense if if wasn't for Lemmy. So yes, i would gladly have ignored the stupidity for what it is, stupid. Acknowledge the stupidity of it and move on. I'd much rather talk about the thousands of good things that the Olympics bring out. Like her winning after likely practicing her fucking ass off and putting life on hold for this one dream.
I literally never would have heard of this nonsense if if wasn't for Lemmy.
It was widely reported on, including probably whatever newspapers you read, even if you didn’t read the story. You not reading it doesn’t mean it wasn’t a widely known about event of the 2024 Olympics.
I'd much rather talk about the thousands of good things that the Olympics bring out.
Okay, so go do that instead of coming into a thread about a gold medal Olympian facing transphobia to complain that people are acknowledging it.
It is absolutely tranphobia. They’re accusing her of being trans and cheating.
Transphobia is often directed at cis women who aren’t classically beautiful. It’s why transphobia is often also a form of misogyny. And why TERFs are morons who are only hurting themselves.
I wonder how the western media that was spurring transphobe vile, would have covered the story if she was an American or White European.
It would have been just as bad. She likely would have been attacked at home as well instead if embraced by her country.
Transphobes are brain broken and would have made her life hell at home.
"her gold medal bout" is a phrase. Try putting a comma after it, to help you read the sentence.
Around and about are similar, in that round and bout are both nouns. Bout comes something meaning bend, specifically from a circuit of a plow making a field. A bout then takes on the exact same meaning as a round etymologically, though they mean different things in boxing. https://www.etymonline.com/word/bout