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[MISLEADING TITLE] Trump Agrees to a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4

Trump Agrees to a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/03/us/trump-harris-debate-fox-news.html?unlocked_article_code=1.AE4.FYZM.trDxdpId0Ybs&smid=url-share

According to Mr. Trump’s post on social media, the debate will take place in Pennsylvania, a crucial battleground state.

Trump Agrees to a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4

Dated: 2024-08-03. Added: 2024-08-03. Edit: Gift link added. Edit (2024-08-04): The New York Times altered the title from “Trump Agrees to a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4” to “Trump Proposes a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4” to “Trump Cancels a Debate With Harris on ABC News and Pitches One With Fox News Instead”, presumably because the original misleadingly implied agreement with and consent from Kamala Harris for the change in venue (ABC News to Fox News).

28 comments

misterundercoat

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a proposal that has not yet been accepted by the Harris campaign.

Not confirmed by the Harris campaign or Fox News at this point. Why are we reporting Trump's garbage social media spew as factual?

downpunxx

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It just said Trump agreed, didn't say anything about Harris agreeing, it's a clickbait headline, that's all

HauntedCupcake

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But that implies he agreed to something someone else proposed. No one says that someone agrees with themselves when they make a statement

LEDZeppelin

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You mean the propaganda network who just couple of days ago said “if you are a man who vote for women, you have transitioned into women? IT’S SCIENCE”

WOW, what a great venue for “debate”!

themeatbridge

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It fucking sucks that the Democrats keep bending over backwards for this shitbag. Why does he get to pick the venue?

Nougat

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He doesn’t. Harris campaign has not responded. This is just Trump’s wishful thinking.

Edit: Headline misleads with the phrase "agrees to." That suggests that there has been an "agreement" between the two parties. There has not. This is Trump's "proposal."

Trump Proposes a Fox News Debate ...

homesweethomeMrL

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NYT misleading with headline phrasing????

Nooooooooooo.

_bcron

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Same reason death row inmates get to pick their last supper, I presume

SteveFromMySpace

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Permanently Deleted

downpunxx

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whoof this is a terrible idea for kamala, fox is litteraly the belly of the beast enemy territory, trump will always find a way, this time with the help of his friends at fox, to decimate his opponent. this is as equally bad an idea as it was for biden to agree to "debate" trump at all. no one "debates" Donald Trump, he's a bully, on television, with no rules, they are his victims.

this is a terrible fucking idea.

Carrolade

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I'm not so sure. You're right that nobody "debates" Trump, but you do get to get onstage and launch attacks at him if you're smooth and know what you're doing.

Fox being the venue is a little meh though, I agree the questions will probably have a strong slant.

Railing5132

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The questions would have a slant like a sheer fucking cliff. The audience would be hand picked by MAGA, Inc. There would be absolutely no gain to a "debate" on fox "news".

Carrolade

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Usually things like audience representation and format are negotiated by the two campaigns before the debate is fully agreed to.

I think it's a rare chance to reach the Fox audience with things they don't often encounter due to their media bubbles.

IndiBrony

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"Man being assassinated drives knife into own stomach"

I bet he can't make himself look good even on home turf at this point.

_bcron

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It's an emotionally stunted narcissist that loves to talk vs a prosecutor. He'll go over time, Kamala will wave her hand a little as if it's cool, she'll get the mic and seek clarification, and when Trump is talking on her time the camera will pan over to her while she's looking through it as if she's on the Office while he spends 2 minutes trying to re-explain 'Black Jobs'

phdepressed

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Fox won't do that to him. For every overtime ramble nothing would happen. They'd shorten Harris' response times to make up for it "for the sake of time". And of course no fact checking and lob up easy questions for him with hard convoluted questions for her and no overtime allowed. I wouldn't put it beyond them to interrupt her mid answer or just switch to Trump when he does one of his interruption "tactics".

_bcron

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Trump's whole schtick is to latch onto a red herring and run off deep into left field with it and make that the focal point, but the thing is that he's lately been doing that kind of thing in a really bizarre manner (Hannibal Lector? wtf), so the more he talks, the better for Kamala. He's starting to push it so far it's all falling off the table and instead of just alienating undecides he's starting to alienate moderate supporters. edit: dude has been coming off as 'weird' to his own lately

phdepressed

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Maybe but Fox's whole thing has been to amplify "bad takes" and otherwise make unreasonable things sound good from the right wing while posing anything left wing and reasonable as sounding bad.

_bcron

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True, but at the same time his base has spent the past 5 years hyperfocusing on Biden's age and gaffes. I even know a Trump voter that's going for Kamala this time because she apparently looks like she'd be tougher on crime, and Vance wears makeup (lol). What a time to be alive

NocturnalEngineer

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For a cable network, which by their own admission is an "entertainment" show and no "reasonable viewer" would take them seriously...

Why are they even allowed to host political debates?

Zipitydew

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Same for CNN now too. John Malone is a Trump fan boy.

downpunxx

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CNN already teetering during the Trump years, has gone full Dark Side, I removed their headlines from my social media feeds, it's incredible, just complete self interest and greed, and another "news" organization working towards a fascist dystopia, actively assisting those who would end free speech and free press, their owners and shareholders betting they can get out with as much value as possible before the fascists end them.

Leeks

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The current link is not a gift link.

baltakatei

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Oops! Thanks for letting me know. It should be fixed now. >.<

bowroat

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/03/us/trump-harris-debate-fox-news.html?unlocked_article_code=1.AE4.kCHB.rlXaLBaLf9Ai&smid=url-share

SteveFromMySpace

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Permanently Deleted

LEDZeppelin

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Same goes for any woman of color. Right relentlessly attacked Fani Willis and slandered her all over for being in a relationship with a divorced man - at the same time nominating a convicted rapist and serial cheater to be their party leader.

Hypocrisy is their brand. It is up to us - those who are not in a cult - to reject these attacks and not allow mainstream media to run with them. FUCK THE PROPAGANDA AND VOTE.

homesweethomeMrL

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The DNC desire for “debate” will never be anything but incredible to me. Why? Why, DNC?

“Swing voters”? “Outlining of policies”? “Reasoned discussion”?

Trump has murdered all of these things. In front of your faces. Many times!

Just . . . Don’t.

krashmo

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They still think facts and reason matter more to people than gut feelings and peer pressure.

homesweethomeMrL

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They don't understand the modern GQP is very literally a cult, with the attendant cult mindset. "Debate" is just performative vitriol in their eyes.