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Trump Again Says That Christians ‘Won’t Have to Vote Anymore’ if They Vote for Him

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/30/us/politics/trump-christians-vote-ingraham.html?unlocked_article_code=1._E0.9rQr.a4SowgjNzYkI

The former president, in an interview on Fox News, declined to back away from his comments and repeated his argument that if he’s elected, “the country will be fixed” and their votes won’t be needed.

Trump Again Says That Christians ‘Won’t Have to Vote Anymore’ if They Vote for Him

The weirdo is being really explicit that the Republican party is going to convert the country into a Guided Democracy — a form of dictatorship where elections are held but how people vote doesn't impact who holds power — much like Russia is today.

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usernamesAreTricky

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It's actually worse than the headline suggests. He was explicitly asked to clarify it in the context of "people are saying you want to subvert democracy". He then refused to and repeated the statment

Can't claim it's "just a joke" or taken out of context when the context is someone asking you if you plan to subvert democracy

From the article:

"It’s being interpreted, as you are not surprised to hear, by the left as, well, they’re never going to have another election,” she said. “So can you even just respond —”

Mr. Trump cut her off, claiming again that Christians “vote in very small percentages,” and digressing into how he would change voting practices.

He then repeated his statement from Friday once more, saying his message had been: “Don’t worry about the future. You have to vote on Nov. 5. After that, you don’t have to worry about voting anymore. I don’t care, because we’re going to fix it. The country will be fixed and we won’t even need your vote anymore, because frankly we will have such love, if you don’t want to vote anymore, that’s OK.”

KazuyaDarklight

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Annoyingly that "we'll have so much love" addition, combined with the weird claim that Christians don't vote much, actually does make me more willing to think he means that he'll have done such a good job and the GOP will be so beloved, that the "small" % of Christian voters won't be necessary for wins anymore, so they won't need to worry about voting, it will still be a shoe-in without them.

Still ludicrous claims across the board of course, regardless.

usernamesAreTricky

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Why give the benifit of the doubt when this is a repeated pattern across his statement

When asked to denounce claims of him being a dictator, he said he's "only be a dictator on day one"

He keeps making these statments. When someone shows you who they are, believe them

misterdoctor

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Why give the benefit of the doubt when this is a repeated pattern

This is exactly it. Trump is very good at saying just enough so that we know what he means and his followers know what he means while maintaining plausible deniability when confronted with his own statements.

Hadriscus

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isn't this what americans call a dog whistle ? I learned it recently

elgordino

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He’s going to keep saying it while people keep reporting it so urgently. Anything to get back into the news after the Dem’s stole the spotlight for a bit.

scarabine

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Bingo

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“I said, vote for me, you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true,” he said. “Because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group. They don’t vote. And I’m explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote. I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore. I won’t need your vote.”

This is just total nonsense. Christians don't vote? Yeah, right. I get that he's trying to come up with an explanation for basically saying he's going to cancel future elections if he wins, but saying his fan base has a low voter turnout is an absurd justification.

KnitWit

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He’s always been the one to say the quiet part out loud.

bstix

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I guess this is also what is alienating some of the republicans. If he takes power, it's no longer a matter of being red or blue, or gerrymandering and cheating their way to success, it'd only be about being loyal to the fascist regime and hoping to be rewarded. It's a complete loss of control for everyone but Trump. Even the bootlickers will be in his grace, except he has none, and they know it.

It's simply not worth it for republicans. Trump is not a republican. He's a celebrity gone fascist. He took over their party because they couldn't unite on anything else but opposition.

The regime wouldn't last long though. Trump is old and unhealthy. It's very likely that another term would be the end of him. What happens to their plan then?

Truth is, he doesn't give a shit about the next election in 2028. He just wants the power to clear off the criminal records right now.

Even if someone wanted democracy to go away, it's an easy promise for Trump to make, but it's unlikely he'll see it through or that anyone else could do it successfully.

silence7

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All it takes is a Court and a Republican-majority Congress that go along, and it's very clear that they're willing to do so if he asks.

psmgx

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The regime wouldn’t last long though. Trump is old and unhealthy. It’s very likely that another term would be the end of him. What happens to their plan then?

That's the point. He takes bribes and will die soon. That means the billionaire class funding him can control him or just wait for his inevitable heart attack.

See also: Peter Thiel's Dark Enlightenment and rejection of democracy, and how he took Vance under his wing.

PerogiBoi

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Trump wants managed democracy! For Super Earth!

Orbituary

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Stop posting paywalled articles on Lemmy.

Here's an archived version: https://archive.ph/KKddN

silence7

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It's a gift link. No paywall for 30 days, aside from a quite small chunk of people who have done something unusual to break gift links.

remus989

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I keep thinking I can't get more scared and yet here we are...

silence7

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I recommend taking three actions:

Check your voter registration — a key part of the Republican approach has been messing with those
Volunteer — getting out and talking to people makes a world of difference
Donate — it takes money to run ads and coordinate groups of volunteers

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