https://finance.yahoo.com/news/squarespace-cmo-cold-called-firms-100000661.html
After landing her first job thanks to the Yellow Pages, Kinjil Mathur has climbed the ranks of Conde Nast, Saks Fifth Avenue and Squarespace to the C-suite.
She literally was already privileged person that didn't have to worry about providing for herself. So no. She didn't.
Where are you getting that information from? It's not in the article. It doesn't say anything about her economic background, how she was paying for school, what her family circumstances were. Just that she followed the advice that she's dispensing.
Do I think that anyone should have to do that nonsense in order to get a job? Absolutely not. But the ugly truth is that this is how businesses frequently work. If I had wanted to work in fashion design, I would have needed to do the same. My ex-wife was unwilling to move to New York or LA to pursue that career after I got the degree, especially since I would have been "interning" during the day, and then working at night to try and afford living expenses, so... Well, I don't do fashion anymore, and haven't for over 15 years. Of note, one of the few people i graduated with that I know did get a job in fashion (I believe he was doing men's shirts at Bill Blass shortly after graduating) had parents that own a large condo just off Central Park. So he could afford to take shit pay and didn't have to worry about student loans.
Yeah people need to be better instead of pulling stories out their asses to fit their preconceived notions. I think pretty much every young twenty something goes through a shitty entry level job of some sort, regardless of industry. Headline is just argument bait.
Did she have a fat bank account while she did it or was she skating on the edge like the people she's criticizing. Cause one is meaningful and the other is performative.
The article doesn't give that information. Just that she worked as an "intern" for free starting after her sophomore year in college to try and get her foot in a door somewhere. But it was also in the era where phone books existed, so, 30+ years ago?
EDIT: "Intern" has a pretty strict legal definition. What she was doing was not interning; she was free labor. That's supposed to be illegal because it's exploitative. The regulations surrounding internships in general are often ignored, and companies get away with it because you will get blacklisted if you report them.
Great! Let's up your income tax rate to 90% and add a 1% per annum wealth tax over 25mil in assets, so all tertiary education can be free and people can earn a universal basic income, while they get settled into a career path they love.
Hey that way we would have time for hobbies and socializing. They won't let us have any of that shit.
Reminder that unpaid internships are almost always illegal in the USA. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/71-flsa-internships
She was able to work, for free, in her freshman summer, while going through for a finance degree. So many questions:
Where did the money come from? Who paid her tuition?
Why not go through for Co-op, where you obtain a job as part of schooling? Or why did she have to hunt for internships? Even my wife, who had unpaid internships and family to back her up during the same time, had help from the school to find it. How jank is U of Texas?
Why, pray tell, is a finance degree holder the CMO?
I mean, I'm happy for her, but how useful is her recommendations? If you don't have a family who can pay your tuition and summer living costs, this is useless.
And ignoring how people need money in order to have shelter and food, what does she think happe s if everyone starts doing this? Should I be calling up everyone at SquareSpace and asking for a job?
It really does sound like one of those "with a small donation from my parents" story. And even if it's not, great for her, she was lucky. Does she really believe most students just smoke weed and fuck all day or something? Every single person I knew from the US that went to uni worked during uni. Hell, even as a European I had to work despite the state money I got.
I know people who donated blood and plasma just to get by - and they had scholarships!
How can employers be "in dire need of employees" and people still have to hustle to get a job? They obviously aren't in dire need.
G̶e̶n̶ Z̶ j̶o̶b̶ s̶e̶e̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ Squarespace CMO should be willing to work for free, long hours, ‘willing to do anything.'
No no, guys. She's right. We should TOTALLY bring back slavery!!! What? That's whats being discussed here, right? Long hours, doing anything thats asked, without any compensation. That sounds like slavery to me.
Soooooo, who's ready to bring back slavery??? Guys? Guys???
Well there you have it. The nays have it.
I think you vastly underestimate the number of people who are willing to bring back slavery today.
The key takeaway of the article is she was so unemployable when she started that she had to apply everywhere and be willing to put in extra effort and accept lesser pay to get started. Then after that, she got lucky.
That's usually how it goes - especially for those who don't have any defining traits.
Agreed. She had the right connection, had the right look, was in the right place at the right time, etc. Not saying she's not intelligent, creative, etc--she probably is or wouldn't be in these roles. She definitely didn't get to where she is through hard work, though.
Not to mention Travelocity broke the law by allowing her to work for free while benefiting their company.
In general, as long as an employee is engaging in activities that benefit the employer, regardless of when they are performed, the employer has an obligation to pay the employee for that time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Labor_Standards_Act_of_1938
Working full-time for free is impossible without another source of income (like a trust fund, or exceptionally generous parents) that most of us don’t have access to. It irritates me that the article doesn’t even mention that. All I’m asking for is ONE sentence.
What is a CMO? Chief Medical Officer? Completely Moronic Outburster? Certainly not Chief Morale Officer?, with those views.
Of course, the most cancerous and toxic career field. Marketing.
I swear 98.9999% of marketing is just scamming people.
Your estimate seems a few orders of magnitude low. I once had an Econ 101 professor who said she recognized that I should think about going into marketing as I would be good at it. I responded "Nah, I prefer my soul right where it is." Little did she know it was already on the short bus headed for hell as I am agnostic and will enjoy the conversation with other righteous nonbelievers.
lmao.. not even surprised. I've only had one Indian boss, that guy thought salaried employees have to work 60+ hours a week. Then the sob convinced the CTO to eliminate half of the IT staff across the board (14 people total) and replace them with off shore Indian labor to save money. Once I realized what had happened I decided it was best to resign. Especially when my boss expected me to lead team meetings with the off shore Indian team at 4AM PST / 4:30PM IST. And still come into work at 7AM til 5-6-7PM
Soo...did this place eventually collapse under its own hubris? I went through similar when I used to work for Silicon Valley Bank. Eventually their hubris caught up to them.
I didn't keep up with their current events. Ever so often I would ponder what happened with the rest of the IT team members but I never reached out to any of them (LinkedIn) for gossip.
It’s easy to work for free when you’re already rich.
And continue to insist on payment…
