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'I can’t wait to defund the CBC': Pierre Poilievre doubles down on plan to axe CBC after board approves bonuses

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/i-cant-wait-to-defund-the-cbc-pierre-poilievre-doubles-down-on-plan-to-axe-cbc-after-board-approves-bonuses

Pierre Poilievre has renewed his pledge to "defund the CBC" after the board of directors for CBC and Radio-Canada has approved bonuses.

'I can’t wait to defund the CBC': Pierre Poilievre doubles down on plan to axe CBC after board approves bonuses

64 comments

merc

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The CBC is a big part of the reason Canada isn't as messed up as the US.

Canada has for-profit media and plenty of media that leans left or right. But, CBC exists to anchor that media universe with a boring, institutionalist, honest view.

quicksand

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The US has NPR and PBS but I'm guessing they're not as influential as the CBC is in Canada

n2burns

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I don't even think PBS & NPR are as well funded (though I don't have sources to support that). That's why they're always doing telethons and thanking "viewers like you" for supporting their programming.

Zachariah

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And they’ve already had massive funding cuts and corporate sponsors stepped in.

phoenixz

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So why so you think poliviere is trying to get rid of it?

isVeryLoud

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CBC has too much of a pro fact bias

Voroxpete

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"Reality has a well known liberal bias"

DragonTypeWyvern

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Unless it would cost them money.

phoenixz

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Not sure if you're joking or serious

isVeryLoud

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phoenixz

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Thanks

isVeryLoud

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Avec plaisir!

BlameThePeacock

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Any problems the CBC has will be dwarfed by the massive problems having a for profit media cause.

When money becomes the only goal, society will be harmed.

kent_eh

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When money becomes the only goal, society will be harmed.

That's true in every part of society, not only the media.

BlameThePeacock

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I don't necessarily agree. There are some industries where the market is free enough that competition really does work.

Just not things like housing, healthcare, and the media.

someguy3

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As more and more traditional media die, the more we need CBC. It's only becoming more important.

theacharnian

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Hey, Ontario dumbfucks, stop voting CPC. You can swing this election.

jerkface

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Ontario is a brain injury.

WilfordGrimley

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I won't be voting for the Liberal party again unless they give us the electoral reform they promised us and didn't deliver when they had a majority government.

I'm hopeful for a strong NDP opposition to a Conservative minority.

theacharnian

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A-B-C

northmaple1984

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Lol, I have been voting since the 2000's and never voted CPC or any other Conservative party until 2019 (and still haven't provincially)... Provide me with an alternate that leaves both the Liberals and NDP without power and I'll gladly not vote CPC this time around.

Full disclosure: I've recently been considering voting PPC for the first time.

theacharnian

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Greens.

northmaple1984

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I actually joined their party once to vote for a new leader. My person lost and with the shitshow that followed I'll be avoiding them too.

theacharnian

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And you're swinging from the Greens to the far right PPC? Bruh.

northmaple1984

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I have never actuslly voted Green in an election.

Also, I believe the PPC is more libertarian than right but i could be wrong.

theacharnian

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Without socialist economics, libertarianism is extremely regressive, as it just means turning the economic power of the ruling class into the only power that exists. North American libertarianism is far right as fuck.

(If you want to see what libertarianism plus socialism looks like, google Errico Malatesta.)

CanadaPlus

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I mean, how socially regressive is too regressive to be libertarian? They've been pretty clear on their stances with respect to immigrants and other minorities.

CanadianCorhen

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The conservatives truly want to destroy Canada, they look to the south, see the divided country down there, and say "yes, please, some of that up here"

SkyNTP

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Only fools would conclude that the problem of executive bonuses is caused by a public funding model. If you thought private companies don't hand out outlandish bonuses to executives, you haven't been paying attention.

droopy4096

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We can go back to "reforms" Harper government done like muzzling scientists and defunding projects serving public interest. Of course those same people would want to defund the only outlet not in their pockets. I haven't seen a single point on Conservative agenda that is not going to harm average person short or long term. yet people still vote them in and Liberals behaving like entitled pricks do not make situation any better. Even NDP has shifted to the right. There's no federal party with representation in Parliament that has workers as a central point of their agenda. Everything is now about business which is very much not the same

Pilferjinx

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Trudeau has run his course and has become too entrenched. People are screaming for change and we never vote NDP. Pollieve is poison. He's going to gut our desperately needed social programs for tax cuts that benefit corporations the most.

floofloof

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I will never understand the thing about Canadians refusing to vote for the only major party that plans to actually improve their lives.

mp3

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With our current system you either vote strategically or with your heart, and those are often conflicting. Either I vote with my heart (NDP), or I vote strategically (LPC) to counter the CPC.

I'd like to at least see the approval voting system one day.

kent_eh

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I've voted NDP many times over the years.

But when they run a non-viable seat filler in my riding, voting ABC becomes the pragmatic choice.

girlfreddy

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screams

Bob Rae!!!

jerkface

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Bob Rae was and still is an excellent leader and statesman.

girlfreddy

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Yup. But Cons scream about him every time you bring up the NDP as an alternative.

We are essentially the same as America, a two-party system.

jerkface

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It seems that way if you don't know your history.

wise_pancake

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I will never understand the NDP not switching their leadership and messaging.

Singh is not going to win. They need a more pro worker and pro jobs message.

droopy4096

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funny thing but if you look closely the most positive that have been done lately was coming from NDP and kindly forced onto Liberals. So i reality NDP doesn't need to win (like everyone said - populous is color blind to orange) they need another minority where they hold balance of power in their hands. So I wouldn't write off Singh as he properly played his cards so far. Yeah, he's not Jack but he did put policies forward and got them in through Libs. It must be residual US thing where Social Democrats == Commies == enemies of the state

jerkface

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Induced behaviour. If the NDP was promising to roll over for every major corporation the way the LPC and CPC do, I'm sure the public would suddenly find that they've always loved the NDP, can't remember any other way. Our collective memory is curated.

Beaver

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As much as I like the cbc, the upper management should not be handing out bonuses while workers are being laid off.

mp3

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Some of these bonuses are part of the performance evaluation they already signed on and whether they met these objectives or not. You can't really go back on an agreement made before the cuts.

running_ragged

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That should be good news to the staff being let go. Pretty sure they had agreements too.

mp3

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Most of those initial job cuts before the funding issue was fixed were vacant positions that were abolished and not fulfilled, which were already budgeted for.

xmunk

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That's not how bonuses work.

This move was greedy on the part of management in the CBC and they should better structure their compensation.

tehBishop

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I've never seen bonus not like that, what do you mean? Performance packages are based on performance.

Trakata

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CBC do great work keeping the record straight, but nearly all upper management in the workforce today comes from the same crop of people who learned their trade from Jack Welch.

MBA-powered ghouls who took lessons from the guy who ran General Electric into the ground and made himself massively rich in the short term off its zombified corpse, at the consequence of lives and livelihoods.

psvrh

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Which is funny, because these types--Welch-style managers--are exactly Pierre's people.

You'd think he'd be in favour of wealthy upper taking bonuses while the workers are ground into paste.

someguy3

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That's only for private, money making companies.

Kichae

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No, they're happy to pay their friends from the public purse, too. They're just not also above throwing those friends under the bus when they think it's politically advantageous.

Especially if they were someone else's friend.

HikingVet

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They aren't kissing his ass, or harper's as, or even the specific asses of the correct Conservative donors. That or they went to the wrong school...

Phil_in_here

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CBC abuses it's funding.
CBC loses funding.

And somehow step 3 is supposed to be CBC suddenly becomes responsible and doesn't cut more jobs and sell out journalistic integrity for a quick buck or collapse and become a foreign media outlet?

girlfreddy

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Please show your proof that CBC abused its funding.

I'll wait.

Rakenclaw

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I can hardly wait to not vote for this guy.

SamuelRJankis

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Most people would just say CBC should be run differently, but everyone familiar with the Conservatives know they really just itching to do a fire sale for all crown properties.

Burstar

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The swarm of bots on Youtube just simultaneously creamed themselves.

jerkface

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How come no one talks about how the CBC has clearly been under attack by armies of pretend people probably funded by foreign governments for like a decade

Grandwolf319

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I listen and enjoy listening to CBC radio.

This would actually make my day to day life worse and I doubt he would give me a tax break that would be worth it.

CanadianCorhen

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There wouldnt be a single dollar tax break on the middle class...

On the rich, on the other hand.

CanadaPlus

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Even the carbon tax is only a net loss for the most polluting and usually richest Canadians.

(Well, unless you include lost growth, but at that rate you should include the cost of climate change too, and it's a net gain for almost everyone)

Binette

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Media like the CBC and the ONF have been a huge part of my childhood. It would be a shame that future generations wouldn't get to experience it.

Ulrich_the_Old

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I suppose that anyone that cannot see the similarities between Squinty McProudBoy and trump will be voting for Squinty McProudBoy and his base of white supremacists, fascists, racists, misogynists and assholes.

CanadaPlus

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He doesn't seem very much like Trump to me, and I definitely won't be voting for him.

Like, he seems bad, but let's not cheapen actual fascism.

Nogami

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The CBC doesn’t do a perfect job but it’s far better than not having them.

That said it’s often better to look at foreign reporting of your country to get a better perspective.

I like the BBC for that with regards to Canada and either BBC or CBC for the US.

Beaver

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Yup, CBC can be hit or miss on our local oligarchs.

smokescreen

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CBC is a mid news outlet, some bad reporting, some good reporting, I can see the benifit of their execs getting a pay cut, but overall is ok.