If you're not maniacally ripping every minute of theoretical fun out of your vacation with an insane timetable that begins at 0500, you're probably rich enough that your dietician has you fasting intermittently.
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I am thinking about it the other way around. Most people consider vacations as a chance to get rest, because they are working starting 5 in the morning for the rest of the year.
That’s the conundrum - for many people anything that follows a timetable is not fun per definition.
You will not find that I have said so. Hope this message finds you comfortably hungover and ten-fingered this Roswell Day
You got me fucked up if I'm waking up early on my master approved break from wage slaving. I'm waking up at noon and I'm having a bowl for breakfast.
high up in the hotel because the club level’s breakfast has an omelette station.
After smoking marijuana of course
The smoked marinara dipping sauce is a regional favorite, complementary offered at all meals to the hotel's guests.
After inhaling thc vapors purely for recreation of course
The gnc flavors of vitamins go well with a healthy bowl of fresh fruit for your daily nutritional and fiber needs.
After freebasing an eight-ball of crack cocaine of course.
Freeshotting the 8-ball without cracking the pool table cloth.
After smoking a blunt while listening to Bob Marley of course.
We've let morning neurotypicals rule over us for too long!!
It is time to rebel & rebuilt!
(But a bit later, it's like 9am here)
I honestly aggree. I arranged my shit quite well, started working late, worked till it's late. It is how I like it, I get really productive at ~15:00 till ~19:00. Now my children go to school (therefore I have to get up early) and they banned working after 18:00 at my company (thanks labour union, I get what you wanted to do, but you screwed me). My productivity dropped so much it stresses me out and I am constantly tired, because I don't sleep enough.
Same - I've basically forced my employer to de facto let me work whenever I want.
I mean, they just like the output they get and with literally no drawbacks, so it's especially shitty knowing that I've basically been fighting some ... traditions?
Its literally just full on discrimination (as classification I mean), it's just too much of a dispersed problem to gain attention & we are all brainwashed (starring late is considered lazy yet finishing early isn't).
Rebel now. Rebuild ... ah, let's rebel first and then take a nap or have a snack. The rubble will be needing to be rebuild tomorrow still.
No, we rebuild when normies are sleeping so when they wake up everything is already different, scheduled changed, work hours flexible, any reference to time before noon punishable.
Meeting scheduled before 9? Instant kick to the balls. Meeting scheduled during lunch? Believe it or not, that's a paddling. I mean kick to the balls.
And a sign up that says YOU MUST NOT TAKE THINGS FROM THE BREAKFAST ROOM!
Yeah, fuck you. Pockets full of churros.
Damn I need to stay at your hotels. The ones I stay at usually you're lucky if you get fresh fruit
I went to one that had a random box of dunkin Donuts 12ct that clearly had gone through their break room and nobody wanted the rest lol
“Continental breakfast” means some shitty $0.50 box of dollar store knockoff brand cereal and a paper bowl.
Even better when the box itself is the bowl and it inevitably leaks rainbow colored milk everywhere.
I think churros are pretty common at Comfort Inn. Maybe of the “Marriotts” as well—like Fairfield Inn maybe.
ahh that brings back my memory of sneaking out lettuce from the hotel cafeteria so I can give it to the local perfume & tea shop keeper's tortoise, talking with the locals is the best
look at this tiny big chomp :)
This is why you don’t pay for breakfast (if you have the option), wake up late at your time and go discover a local spot and some food to eat as breakfast/lunch item.
You know another way you're not allowed to be lazy on vacation?
If you get an AirBnB, you have to clean the place before you leave.
Hotels have cleaners who clean your room so you can leave it a mess. I shouldn't have to do chores when I'm on vacation. One of many reasons I prefer hotels.
Only reason I use an AirBNB is if it's a unique location where there are no hotels (like a cabin in the woods on a river or something) but I agree, I only book ones that don't have a ridiculous checkout policy.
I also hate that private equity has taken over towns with short term rentals making the rest of us pay more in rent.
We once used it back when it really was just individual people with extra places renting them out short-term when we stayed in New York, but that was like 2009. And then my mom insisted on paying for one when she went with me to the Mayo Clinic earlier this year, but at least it was just someone renting out the bottom half of the duplex they owned and not a corporation... but yeah, unless there's just not another good option, I'm not doing AirBnB when it's my choice.
What is the cleaning fee for?
It goes towards the owner's next single-family home that they'll turn into a rental
Our vacation days generally consist of stalking the area for good food and doing tourist-y things to fill the time between meals. My partner's favorite thing to do during vacation downtime is to find more restaurants and cafes in the area for the next day, so hotel food is never a factor.
City vacations: restaurant hunting
Nature vacations: grueling 6am deathmarch #87
Beach vacations: binge drinking and washing sand out of things
The worst breakfast I ever had was at a Courtyard Marriott that was under renovation. Since then, I made a policy to find the best local breakfast diner any place I went, even if the hotel breakfast was included.
Haven't regretted it once.
That was how I learned Boston has no good breakfast spots.
Also the hotel only served breakfast on certain days of the week? What the fuck is that about. But they gave me a free glass of wine when I got back to the hotel one night.
Europe is a pretty big continent...the breakfast you get in the Netherlands is going to be different to the one you get in France or the UK.
Italy vs. Germany. The only occasion where Germany wins against Italy when it comes to food. But Turkey is where the real breakfast kings reside.
Hold up- did you just say German food is better than Italian? I have never once in my life seen a German restaurant. Italian restaurants are all over the place
Edit: apologies. I misread and that you said "is when it comes to food". Sounds like I need to try me some German breakfast.
Sounds like I need to try me some German breakfast.
German breakfast is good, but it isn't the greates breakfast on earth. But Italian breakfast is terrible. It is basically coffee and some sweet pastry.
Yes, but many big hotel chains have a buffet style breakfast that does not only include typical local food. For instance in France a local breakfast would be bread, croissant or other pastries, and a coffee, but you would also find scrambled eggs, bacon, cereal, etc.
Smaller hotels will be more local though yes.
That's a continental breakfast, and they're popular in the US too, both east and west coast.
Okay I've had hotel breakfasts in literally those three and it was great. But you make a good point.
I don't know what hotels you go to but my experience has been pretty mid across most of Europe. Bog-standard continental breakfast buffets. Croissants, orange juice, cereal, toast, all of mediocre quality.
Not terrible as it is, but you can likely get infinitely better breakfast by hopping over to any cafe across the street.
Strongly disagree, I've stayed in a fair few hotels around the world. Best are usually US or Asia(not China)
Literally most places, and depends on what you like. I think anywhere in France is the tits for delicious food (try traveling outside of Paris as well).
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I’ve been to Sweden a couple times, and the real food they serve in hotels or cafeterias versus the industrial processed eating product that we usually have in the US really puts us to shame.
But that goes for many aspects of the culture. The whole, you know, respect other humans thing.
Can confirm, been to hotels all over Europe, even the fancy a la carte ones are fairly shitty if you dont need breakfast like a normie morning person.
I don't know where everyone is staying but I normally get a choice of single serve cereal bowls, bagels with maybe 3 types of spread, some type of juice, coffee, milk, and occasionally a selection of fruit. Everything is served with cheap plastic or cardboard not silverware, glass, cloth or ceramic.
I eat breakfast between 12-14h. After I went to bed at 6.
Breakfast is when you wake up, it doesn't have a specific time.
Pretty much every hotel without “inn” in the name has at least reconstituted egg foam, bacon, and sausage.
That would be a continental breakfast. What's shown in the picture is closer to an English breakfast
The US doesn't have anything called an English breakfast outside of restaurants which specifically cater to that. Aside from what looks like quiche, that looks like a pretty standard continental breakfast.
I went to a 3-star hotel that was also doing this. Their free breakfast also includes eggs that came from a carton.
I travel a lot for work, and this is my experience in and around Germany (even for small, family owned, 10 bedroom hotels):
- 3 kinds of bread rolls
- 2 types of bread to cut by yourself
- Also soft, crustless, white bread (aka toast)
- Butter and 3 kinds of cream cheese
- 4-10 types of cheese
- 4-8 types of cold cut meats
- 3 jams/jellies
- Honey
- Nutella
- Liver pâté
- Scrambled or boiled egg
- 1 type fried sausage
- 1-3 types of Müsli (cereal mix with oats and nuts or fruits)
- 2-3 types of box cereal (the sweet kind like fruit loops)
- Yoghurt plain and fruit-flavoured
- Quark dessert
- Canned fruit mix
- Fresh fruit
- Croissants or muffins or Madeleines
- optional waffles or pancakes
For drinks:
- Orange juice
- Multivitamin juice
- Coffee
- Hot water bar with 3-12 types of tea
I think good hotel breakfast peaks at the middle of the price curve.
I stayed at a La Quinta by Portland airport and they had pancakes, Belgian waffle machines with butter and syrup, biscuits, bacon, eggs, cereal, fruit, juice... For a $115 a night room.
I've stayed at the Four Seasons in Chicago and they had bread and juice.
It's because they don't want to give out free food (but want to make it seem like they do want to give out free food), so they will make it available only when people are less likely to go for it.
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Free food? Since when is the hotel food free?
Here you always have to pay for it even if you usually do it when booking
In the US several hotels will offer a "continental breakfast" included with the stay. I guess you could argue that it's not really free, considering it's factored into your stay at the hotel, but there is technically not a separate charge for it and it's considered an "amenity". I know that this is not necessarily common in other places, so I thought I would mention in case you were not aware.
I'd say you're correct except now it's more "used to offer". In Europe it's usually included and it's a good spread, in the US it was a decent spread, then cereal and processed muffins, and now it's.... A Starbucks Togo you have to pay for
Breakfast to end a heavy night is awesome though. Just like the classic fast food on the way home. Hotel breakfast is even a classic for that too.
It's so weird seeing almost 500 upvotes on a post like this on lemmy where, based on comments, like 90% of it's users can barely afford rent, let alone going on vacation and staying at a place that offers breakfast.
I would expect most lemmings, like myself, to have spent more time in company-paid hotel rooms than vacation hotel rooms
Can confirm.
Source: I think last time I paid for a hotel myself was 2009. I have no idea how many nights I've spent on company expense since then, but it must be in the hundreds.
Nah. Job is pretty chill, pays well, I usually get to choose the hotel, and I get to see new places.
Nah. Job is pretty chill, pays well, I usually get to choose the hotel, and I get to see new places.
There are also people outside of america. In my country i could afford to go on a week-long vacation every year in europe with basically a minimum-wage salary if that is what i want to prioritize in life.
Could it be possible that these are different groups of people? Lemmy has like 70,000 monthly users now.
I mean, I travel for work a lot and have to stay weeks in hotels. And weeks means weekends, so yeah I can relate. There's a lot of people I meet around the world that travel like me and wouldn't be able to afford those same hotels for a vacation... like me lol
Oh it's just the usual people that complain that they can't afford anything but somehow they've visited 35 countries so far in their life and are planning their next trip to add one more to the list.
Well I mean, the majority of hotels don't even serve free breakfast anymore once they realized they could get away with not having it or making it a paid thing. This used to be common a while ago, when I'm sure Lemmy users used to be taken on vacations by their parents.
Pretty sure there are more than 10% of Europeans on this site.
Not everything is as dystopian as the US.
All the hotels i ever stay in anymore don't have a restaurant or a bar just bare bones. I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once and it had a pancake machine
Holiday Inn Express is the most miserable breakfast I've ever had in a hotel. The selection was basically lard with sugar on it, and whatever drink you chose tasted of chlorine.
I'm normally not much of a breakfast person, but work had booked me in at HIE once, and as I had a long day ahead I had to force myself to eat something. And the selection available didn't exactly make it easier.
After that I always make sure to book the hotel myself. I'm not that picky in terms of hotel, as long as the eatery is decent.
I never had tap water in the US that didn't. No wonder why bottled water is so popular there. I'm sure they have better water in more mountainous states, but TX, LA, MS and AL tastes like chlorinated swamp.
Most of my life I've lived in places where the tap water comes from natural lakes in nearby mountains, with bird poop as the only additive. I therefore notice the chlorine very easily, to the point where my coworkers claim they don't notice it at all.
In New Zealand our tap water is mostly okay to good, with the exception of Whanganui. Tap water there has lots of lime (not the fruit) in it so I tend not to drink tap water as a habit, despite living in the south island now which has nice and cold tap water pretty much everywhere. Never heard of chlorine in the tap water around here lol
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Yeah, uh... Don't know how to say this, but if your water smells like chlorine, I don't recommend drinking it. Might be ok for survival, but it's definitely not for regular consumption.
I like Drury Inns. They do have the standard "breakfast ends at 9:30" thing which sucks for late sleepers, but they also have a 5-7 pm "happy hour" with snacks and both alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks provided gratis. It's a way to avoid paying for dinner if you can do it and you don't care about your dinner being snacky stuff, but if you're on vacation, let dinner be snacky stuff.
I love having breakfast early in the monring in hotels when most people are still asleep. I can take my time, read in peace, no queue for the coffee, etc...
I am the same. I wake up early regardless and my wife and daughter don't, so I can go downstairs and have breakfast and hang out down there for a while as they sleep and then get them up 20 minutes before they stop serving it.
Why would I spend the time and money on a vacation just to waste it on being lazy? I can do that at home. On vacation I'm up before sunrise, take a shower, and grab breakfast before I start my itinerary for the day.
If I wanted to wake up before my biological clock tells me to and follow a schedule, I could just go to work.
I'm a freelance software dev, you just made me realized I should vacation on a schedule so I have some variety in my life.
I paid for this uncomfortable hotel mattress, and I'm going to damn well use the fucking thing!
You can also maximize your time sleeping in too. Stay out and have fun on the town, head back to the hotel at 3am. Some people are night owls, some people like mornings. Nothing wrong with either.
Personally waking up before sunrise feels awful for my body and brain function, but I get it.
We have different vacation philosophies. Mornings are nebulous unplanned times for everyone to do what they want like sleeping in, relaxing by the pool, getting brunch at a nice place, and light sight seeing. I usually don't have scheduled goals/events for the day until afternoons and evenings while on vacation. I can't enjoy being somewhere new if I'm too burnt out and exhausted to participate and experience it properly.
Because you could spend more of your time in the evening, when there are more things to do in town.
Mornings are boring. Evenings are exciting.
Most continental breakfasts I've seen run from 6-9AM and I've always interpreted it as a sneaky tactic hotels use to usher guests quickly out the door given that standard checkout time is usually 11AM.
It's not sneaky, most would happily tell you it's a combination of that plus not wasting food for the few people who would normally meander out at the crack of noon
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That and I think the people getting breakfast that early are on a business trip rather than on vacation
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There are two types of hotels: those who serve early breakfasts because most of their clients are early birds, and all inclusives where most of the clients are night owls. You're just staying at the wrong type of hotel.
Honestly it's never worth it.
Maybe I'm in a fortunate position. But I have never been to a place where breakfast was as good as an average cafe.
From my experience: If Hotel A and Hotel B were pretty identical the same but for $20 more, you get all you can eat breakfast, don't bother. Just buy breakfast.
A lot of people who are staying at those hotels and bothering with the continental breakfast are there for work, not vacation.
Its still weird to me how English breakfast is (that much of) a thing.
Like a couple of centuries ago for the difference in the sheer standard of living, sure, maybe at that point it was luxurious in terms of ingredients alone, ... but still?
I mean the yanks deep fry butter for god sake.
Yanks do? If anything that would be more of a southern thing, but I don't think its a common thing anywhere other than as fair food or something
Fried butter is like a novelty fair food over here, it's not a real dish.
Blood pudding in the UK, on the other hand . . .
Edit: also I'm pretty sure Scotland would deep fry tf out of some butter
Blood sausage isn't just a UK thing, variations are found in pretty much every cuisine that eats meat. And it's not even like its super popular in the UK, its very often not even included in a full English breakfast.
I didn't say it wasn't. Fried butter is also delicious. I was just making a comment as to the availability of the dishes in their respective countries.
You don’t like Fish and Chips?
English food is fine as long as it is not prepared by the English.
It's because the alternative is "continental breakfast" which consists of a few slices of warm ham, tiny slices of bread and a bunch of fruit that's already on the turn.
That's why I'm sticking with alpine/Austrian breakfast: Real bread (Google "Schwarzbrot"), real cereals (a mix of oats, dried fruits and nuts, with hot milk) or Sterz (a breakfast made from ground maize, couldn't find a translation) with apples and raisins. Depends on how much time I have and what I'm doing on that day (before a long hike or a long day of skiing Sterz is the best).
Good point. They're the same, the difference lies in how you continue after cooking it.