https://theconversation.com/loss-of-supreme-court-legitimacy-can-lead-to-political-violence-233316
What happens if the highest court in the land loses legitimacy?
A riot did decide the 2000 election, unfortunately it was the fascists who were rioting.
SCOTUS was never legitimate; they gave themselves the power of judicial review in Marbury v. Madison.
The executive branch can declare that the court is illegitimate at any time, since it is up to the executive branch to enforce the law.
If the supreme court can't subject laws to constitutional scrutiny, and there is no longer separation of powers, I think that's basically the end of the US Republic.
Yep! Welcome to the show, try the fish before it's gone and don't think too hard about what comes next, we'll be in it soon enough anyway.
No. Fucking. Shit.
The complete collapse of one of the three real legs of the US government. The president was not intended to be more than a figurehead, because the founding fathers thought the populous would lose their shit if they didn't have "king." What a terrible decision. The real triad were supposed to be the House, Senate, and Judiciary. Nobody's surprised when there president goes off the rails, but losing the judiciary to radicals? That's fucked. We're fucked.
Yeah, I know my interpretation of what the founding fathers really intended doesn't have much to back it up. Still, the Supreme Court now going against all previous courts and outright ignoring precident is really, really fucked up.
But in 2000, the court enjoyed more robust legitimacy among the public than it does today. As a consequence, Florida officials ceased recounting disputed ballots. Vice President Al Gore conceded the election to Texas Gov. George W. Bush, specifically accepting the Supreme Court’s pivotal ruling.
No Democratic senator challenged the validity of Florida’s disputed Electoral College votes for Bush. Congress certified the Electoral College’s vote, and Bush was inaugurated.
Al Gore is the perfect example of why we can't ig ore the importance of charisma in a candidate.
Dude would have been a great president, and having him at the helm instead of Bush would have drastically change global politics to this very day.
But he was a wet blanket, didn't have the balls to challenge it, and too progressive for the DNC to defend.
People keep ignoring that presidential elections are basically just statewide popularity contests. At the end of the day nothing matters but the voters opinions.
Dude would have been a great president, and having him at the helm instead of Bush would have drastically change global politics to this very day.
People keep saying that and they keep being wrong.
There was no daylight between Bush and Gore on foreign policy, and very little daylight between Bush and Gore on domestic policy.
A hypothetical Gore administration would have invaded Afghanistan. It would have invaded Iraq. It would have implemented the Patriot Act and instituted the policy of destabilizing Muslim countries to honeypot terrorist groups into civil war (the so-called "Bush Doctrine"), all the vicious realpolitik warmongering that Kissenger taught Clinton and Bush and Obama to do so well.
Understand: we have lived under the Kissinger Administration from 1972 to the present day. Anybody who thinks a different President would have made a difference in global politics is fooling themselves.
Just to pick out one thing, Iraq was very deliberately setup by the Bush Administration. They put specific effort into falsifying evidence to support an invasion. There's no particular reason to believe Iraq would have been invaded by Gore.
A major issue in the run up to 9/11 was a coordination failure due to a delayed Administration transition. It's hard to say for sure, but it's quite possible 9/11 doesn't even happen if it's a direct transition between Clinton and Gore.
Oh, and we'd probably be in the ICC. The treaty was finalized towards the end of Clinton's run, he was in favor of it, but he left it to the next Admin to decide what to do with it. Bush Admin canned it.
Burning down the system and starting over seems like the best option to me. America has been fundamentally flawed since its inception.