it takes balls to do this online and admit your mistake, and even warn others
my dude is a fucking legend
Aye it's the humanity problem.
Surrounding yourself with people that believe nonsense only reinforces the idea; it really plays into our necessity of "group".
Gotta give props to the guy for getting out of the cycle.
That FTC guy who went "ha ha! I actually hate the Telecom industry and I will restore net neutrality!". Except he needed only 2 panels.
Tom Wheeler. Sorry, I had to look up the name. He succeeded the professional ass clown that was Ajit Pai, seemed like another Republican Telecom shill coming from the industry to further errode the regulatory agency.
Turns out he had made his start in Telecom and the big players ate up his small company. He seemed to have joined them but he secretly had an ax to grind or at least the public's best interest in mind.
Top notch guy. Greatest anime betrayals right there.
Turning over to the round side seems to have garnered a lot more views. I wonder whether he would have stayed flat if it were otherwise. After all many more are making content online in the hopes of money and fame than in some quest for truth.
Credit for the growth,but it makes me wonder what else that asshole was sure he was right about.
I'm more curious about what exactly finally caused them to drop that particular brand of bullshit, and if we can use the same thing to fight other insane or harmful beliefs.
If I recall correctly, in his flat earther videos he invited people to debate with him. A skilled debunker took him up on it and posted a response breaking down his arguments. He actually listened to the response and started a dialogue.
It worked because he was fairly new to it and had heard some flat earth arguments that made intuitive sense to him, but he was willing to follow logic where it lead. Once he heard decent arguments from someone outside the flat-earth echo chamber it all fell apart. Many flat earthers are too invested, it makes them feel special or clever or supports their religious beliefs, so they’ll twist themselves into rhetorical pretzels to dodge the conclusion that the earth is round.
So… get them early, respond kindly with good logic that’s easy to follow, and hope they’re willing to listen.
Watching flat earth debates inflicts psychic damage. It doesn't matter how many points get debunked, they just immediately pivot to the next. For years they've been saying that a 24 hour sun in Antarctica is impossible (and it is on a flat model) and would disprove flat earth, while also dismissing all video of the phenomenon as fake and saying all the governments of the world prevent travel beyond the "ice wall." Someone offered to pay for a flat earther and a globe earther to attend a yearly antarctic expedition to definitively prove the globe once and for all. The glober accepted. One flerfer declined, the second demanded his friend accompany him in place of the glober. Nothing is settled as far as I know. Flat earthers have also started claiming that a 24 hour sun in Antarctica would not disprove flat earth, in spite of years of saying the contrary.
It really is all a con and I'm glad this guy was open to the evidence.
It's emotions. It's never logic. It's always emotions. Something happened that caused them emotional pain, which let them open their mind up to other paths.
What makes the difference is accepting solid evidence that contradicts our understanding of things.
Hopefully. And hopefully a little quicker and less loud about the wrong party than this guy.
Looks like he lost weight too. Good for him.
GRAVITY IS A SCAM!! Try pissing upside down. Checkmate, whatever this is.
Scientist are stupid removed because they're liars, Sometimes. Gravity is a complete scam! Ask a scientist, any scientist to explain gravity to you. They can't. Newton thought he could, but then Einstein came and proved he was a liar and a little removed. Einstein thought he could, but then some other scientist proved he was a liar and a removed. So how do we know they're all not lieing removed. /S
Hear me out guys, what if he is not a flat earther rather did the youtube channel to change flat earthers who joined him to change their concept. Man doing lords work.
I don't think the vast majority of self-proclaimed flat earthers actually believe that shit
Most of the big names in the flerf community are grifters, for sure. But many of the people who follow them are genuine believers. I have a relative who's a die-hard flerfer.
Sheeps and Neeps was a small time flerfer who literally died because his conspiracy theory beliefs about cancer treatment, and there was that guy who went up in a rocket and came down in pieces. So some of them really do believe it. In my relative's case, he went through a lot of trauma, flerfers give him a sense of belonging and something to hold onto.
But many of the people who follow them are genuine believers.
I don't believe that, even if they say they do, I don't believe that they actually believe it
