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The Christian right is coming for divorce next
https://www.vox.com/today-explained-newsletter/354635/divorce-no-fault-states-marriage-republicans
Some conservatives want to make it a lot harder to dissolve a marriage.
https://www.vox.com/today-explained-newsletter/354635/divorce-no-fault-states-marriage-republicans
Some conservatives want to make it a lot harder to dissolve a marriage.
I think this is the Christian plan for marriage and for childhood for females.
If you get them young enough, you can avoid that troublesome think for yourself phase.
I'll give you an upvote for the satire/sarcasm, but I want you to know that it comes with a feeling of disgust towards myself for upvoting those words.
If you get them young enough, you can avoid that troublesome think for yourself phase.
sounds a lot like the plan religions use.
For the group railing against Sharia law the loudest, they sure do love to legislate religious beliefs. I guess the real problem was Sharia just wasn't going far enough.
The irony is that they are all Abrahamic and even worship the same god (Allah/Yahweh/Jehovah - all the same).
Let's start with divorcees not being allowed to run in the 2024 election if it is so incredibly unethical and all
Conservatives have bad ideas about nearly everything. They should under no circumstances be allowed to have any power. I'd even say they're an existential threat to the US and the rest of humanity.
It's far past time to stop treating them as just folks with a different opinion. This is not "oh well they wanted to paint the bedroom walls green and I wanted blue."
Someone announcing themselves a conservative should be taken as a declaration of a threat. Removing them from power is self defense.
The conservatives opinions bother me. But the authoritarianism is the bigger issue to me. This desire to force their opinions and wills on other people instead of living their lives as they want and leaving others alone is far more problematic.
The problem though is tht once the conservative Republicans joined hand with the religious right decades ago, it's been on a steady course towards authoritarianism
And what really irks me is that there needs to be some semblance of authoritarianism to stop their authoritarianism. Otherwise they'll keep pushing and pushing and won't ever stop.
Yeah, it's like the paradox of tolerance. Or "extreme situations call for extreme measures".
The "paradox" of tolerance isn't a paradox, it's a social contract. If you do not abide by the terms of the contract, you are not protected by it. It's that simple.
Treating it as a social contract where tolerance is limited in certain situations is a resolution of the paradox. The paradox itself is just "if you try to tolerate everything, you'll have to tolerate intolerance" or "you can't maximize tolerance by tolerating everything". Though that second one is more of an irony than a paradox.
And that's fair, I guess in that sense it is a true paradox. It just appears a little different in theory and in practice - the theory is the paradox, the practice is not.
Sorry, calling out that it's a social contract is a bit of a knee-jerk response for me, after years of having people whip out the paradox of tolerance as some kind of "gotcha, LIBS!!!" because being tolerant of unfamiliar lifestyles doesn't mean I won't punch a nazi when it's relevant. And that's poorly understood. My rights end where yours begin, and vice versa, but if you start actively infringing on the rights of others and souring that contract, it is our duty as righteous citizens to put you back in your box. Sometimes that means "hey knock it off asshole", sometimes that means hunting down bigots and deleting their kneecaps. Depends what you're guilty of and where.
I agree with what you're getting at, but "conservative" is relative and doesn't actually indicate specific beliefs, so "conservatives should never have any power" can be easily twisted once the conservatives we'd currently think of are gone.
What word would you prefer? I considered "Republicans" but that doesn't catch people outside the US. "Contemporary Republicans or people who would vote for them" isn't very catchy
I don't think there's an all-encompassing term for people who have "destructive"/harmful beliefs considered conservative. Most I can think of is "bigoted capitalists", but even "bigoted" could be interpreted way differently. Plus, that excludes bigoted non-capitalists so it has a more narrow usage...
What I go with, though, is "fascists" and "collaborators". Plain and simple, straight to the point, but most importantly no chance of confusion – that's how I see our conservatives, their supporters, and their enablers. Ultra-socially-regressives (usually religious) who want a system that enforces/maintains a social hierarchy they deem "natural" (or having a religious justification for the hierarchy). Maybe "wannabe fascists" or "social fascists" would be more accurate, since generally people think of a dictatorship when they think of "fascism".
"Oppressors" may also work, and it also can pair with "collaborators". It's more general, but I think here the flexibility may come be an advantage, and it isn't tied to a specific set of political beliefs, it vaguely just means "those who use unjust force/threats of force to control others". Of course, contemporary conservatives follow this definition.
The solution is simple, as it is for gay marriage. Marriage is not recognized by the state/government.
Yep. At the very least, just make everything a civil union that any two consenting adults can enter into. Religious people can still get "married", it just has nothing to do with the government.
Until Russia gets a copy of it and you try to run for president and expect to have free will.
I'm sure there will still be plenty of eager consenting adults that we can all piss on.
Why limit it to two? I say allow any amount of people in a civil union, or allow one person to have a civil union with multiple people separately. It's mostly for visits in the hospital, parental rights, stuff like that.
Of course, that makes residence/citizenship based on relationships complicated, but that's mostly an issue caused by closed national borders being a fucked up concept in the first place.
I don't disagree, that's just a much more involved change. I was just suggesting the bare minimum that would be relatively simple to implement.
Maybe they should make it super bureaucratic and you have to pay to renew your civil union every 7 years, otherwise it dissolves.
They want laws that follow ancient religious texts, to control women, force everyone into marriage, prosecute homosexuals, ban birth control and get rid of media that go against their narrative.
What I'm wondering is, why the fuck do they not like Islamists?
Most religions feel that anyone not in their religion is beneath them, or a lesser person. Believers are going to heaven, well meaning pious atheists are going to burn in hell.
The really bonkers ones get even more exclusive, where other Christians that aren't their same little sect are going to hell, even Catholics.
Because a different guy a few hundred years later said some of the same stuff while also saying some different stuff.
I think they largely do envy them and their social control and want the same, just for their religious beliefs instead.
You don't really want to see that question answered in the form of their implementation.
Why not? They live with an abusive god who constantly threatens them with punishment if they don’t follow a bunch of conflicting rules and won’t love you or reward you unless you kiss his ass. You can never leave the relationship or check out any other gods, or just be single, either. You’re trapped.
They want everyone else to be trapped in abusive relationships, too.
Seems like the Republicans core voting block are men too terrible to be with unless you are forced to by the state. Winning strategy
Next up, mandatory marriage? Like if you're single past age twenty one or so, you're criminally charged? Maybe sent as cannon fodder in the colonies?
Of course they are. The men and I use that term loosely are trying to make women chattel again. The next step for them after that is to make other chattel. They dream of the mid east style government.