Looked up the article. They're mad that Dolly Parton, who is a very outspoken Christian, is specifically the kind who embraces the "God loves everyone and that means we should love everyone, too" ethos of Christianity. In other words, the author of the article is pissed that Dolly doesn't gaybash. What a fucking piece of shit you have to be to sit down and be like "you know what's wrong with this person? They aren't cruel enough."
Us queers love dolly parton. Whoever wrote that had no fucking clue what they'd unleash.
You haven't met enough drag queens. There is no limit to how much floof the can get out of a cheap wig.
See that's the whole problem, gotta shell out for better wigs.
"It costs a lot of money to look this cheap!"
I heard her tell a story about how she entered a Dolly Parton drag competition on a whim. She was delighted that she lost!
Its never about "loving everyone" its about "accepting everyone". Those are different things.
Not sure what your point is, but I have a hard time imagining love and acceptance not going hand in hand.
For example; you should always love your kid, but you should not necessarily accept what they chose to do or what they become.
For example; you should always love your kid, but you should not necessarily accept what they chose to do or what they become.
good point, if i had a kid and they turned out to be a trump supporter, i would never accept that. but i also wouldn't disown them like trump supporter parents do to their kids for being gay
That is a two way street, there are many people that wont be friends with trump supporters.
Metal head here who idolizes Dolly. She's a national treasure the likes of Mister Rogers. Who has also been attacked by the right.
For those interested she's in a couple of VERY trans positive episodes of The Orville (one just her song 9-5 and the other in a long scene as herself).
Anyone bashing Dolly hates freedom is no good. A full on poophead.
She's also in the movie 9 to 5, which was what the song was written for, which is about three women who have had enough of their misogynist boss and get revenge on him. On top of that, she starred in The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, which is one of the few films which doesn't denigrate sex workers and actually shows them as normal people.
I saw 9 to 5 when it came out as I am old. I still love it.
All 3 female leads were awesome, and she absolutely held her own against the legendary Tomlin and Fonda. Also recently passed Dabney Coleman.
I was only 3 when it came out, but it was definitely a regular staple of the cable movie channels when I got older. My dad was a film historian, so we had all the movie channels so he could tape movies to show them in class. 9 to 5 would show up on occasion.
As you suggested, what an amazing cast!
Edit: Just read this on the IMDB-
This was Dolly Parton's theatrical film debut. In preparation for her role as Doralee Rhodes, she not only committed to memory her own part, but the parts of every other role in the film. Apparently, the two experienced starring actresses, Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda, burst out laughing when Parton let on that she believed that pictures were filmed in the chronological order of a film's script.
That's adorable and also impressive.
One of the many things I love about The Orville is that the song 9-5 became a revolutionary feminist anthem to the Moclans. And that she was sweet enough to make a cameo.
She's all around awesome. Always helped people, always gives back. Always been kind. And a certified rock star! I have no tattoos, never seen the allure. But if I woke up with Dolly's face tattooed I wouldn't even be angry.
Shit newspaper with shit ideas.
"christianity is about hating people and Dolly doesn't hate people enough" -the federalist, basically
I would have few problems with Christianity if Dolly was the standard Christians tried to live up to. They sure as hell don't try to live up to Christ's standards.
Through my teenage years I got wrapped up in an evangelical environment, but as an adult found my way to a non- denominational church. It was eye opening. The more I talked to the pastor, learned and read, I realized that people get wrapped up in their denominations like sports teams. And since the different denominations come about because of different interpretations of Scripture and the "rules" some group puts into place for their team, no wonder it's the perfect environment for creating a culture of control and abuse for those seeking power.
This doesn't make me not believe in God, this makes me not trust the motivations of people in power. On the day to day, I try to be the best I can to people around me, and share love, kindness, and respect. That's my big take away from Jesus' teachings at least.
That is exactly what Jesus was teaching,from what I remember of my time in church. At least when you strip out the religion and deity worship.
There are many Christians whose faith does not involve pushing the law on others, but instead focus on the gospel and its inclusive nature.
These aren’t the loud ones who push regressive policies. Because the ones pushing regressive policies aren’t doing so because their religion tells them to, they’re making their religion fit whatever they feel the world should look like, picking and choosing which rules to follow or ignore based on their worldview, shaping their religion to fit their bigotry. They would hate Jesus, who preached paying taxes, being generous to the needy, and accepting sinners and those despised by the establishment of the time.
If it was just a handful, you wouldn't have situations like the anti-LGBT law in Uganda or just Trump's election in 2016.
they should be the loud ones though, i really struggle to see how you can be a good christian in america without having john brown as a role model.
like, the Swedish Church (closest we have to a state religion) is actively and aggressively pro-lgbt, if anyone tries to spread hate they smack them with a bible and shut that shit down fast.
Sensible religious people don't have to sit in the background doing charity work like a sailor futilely scooping water out of a leaky boat, they can speak up and push back against what can be rightfully classed as blasphemy that spreads hate and injustice.
I was in Salem, MA for Halloween and there were more than a couple assholes preaching hellfire and brimstone to anyone celebrating the "evil" holiday.
My first thought was to dress up like Jesus and carry a sign that says "My Dad thinks this guy is an asshole." I've got the hair and beard to pull it off.
I’m not saying the open and affirming churches don’t fight for causes and social justice.
I’m just saying that they’re not the ones running governments and controlling rural populations. Those people don’t want to hear it. It’s just like how they abandoned Fox News for Newsmax and OAN when Fox called the election for Biden. To them, religion is a source of validation, not something to emulate or follow. They don’t want to be challenged.
There was an article a while back about a pastor who said someone in his congregation argued with him about something he said in his sermon, which had been Christ’s own words. The congregant said, “That’s not Christian, it’s too weak.” Or something to that effect.
Imagine what Jesus would say about "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas".
He'd probably clap until his wrists were sore.
I mentioned elsewhere- it's one of the few movies where sex workers aren't demonized. And then ending... His political career will be over if he marries the madam? Oh well, love is love.
I discovered today that the director of 9 to 5 also directed that film, which doesn't surprise me.
I'm almost certain they've all decided Jesus was a loser and decided to root for Barabbas instead.
I mean, in context that verse is about being aware one's belief in Jesus may cause strife with their family/community, and how Christians are meant to endure this strife without denying their faith. The choice of wording makes sense in the context of the time it was written, when affirming Christ is God would have absolutely caused some major animosity with those who don't believe. It's assuring the reader that the division and pain that will come from those disagreements is not lost on God, and also not something we can turn away from and ignore.
The Christians that everyone is up in arms about all the time are close to the worst representation of the faith as possible, and you can easily point out their lazy interpretations as well as scripture that, more often than not, outright rejects their twisting of the faith. Modern day Pharisees all the way. Unfortunately the church on a national level is inundated with them, and has done a poor job of separating from them.
Tried to turn him into a Transphobe icon by deliberately misinterpreting his more banal aphorisms.
Let's just say they've been on their "special snowflake" ranting looooooong before you may remember
yeah, when hillary called the trump cultists deplorable, and a bunch of people wigged out, crying about her saying mean things, all I could think about is how I have heard that, and much worse, from right wing media, for as long as I have memories. At the time people would say "but she did it as a candidate on an official forum", or something similar, while her rival was just a sewer vomiting this type of sentiment, and worse, on a daily basis. And all the people who spent so much time calling everyone snowflakes, completely melted down over one insult.
I call them redcaps, and have a pretty clear definition, the kind of person who may or may not insist that they're just bummed about economics or something, but when approached with progressive economic policy react by asking "....but can we still say the N Word?"
If you're ever on the opposite side of Dolly on an ethical or moral issue, you're on the wrong side.
Fucking eh!
If you spend 10 minutes looking into Dolly Parton, you’ll find a Fucking Angel.
Legitimately. Look into her reading program. Not just the news articles, but the written deals. She makes sure that if her program is a success, that the county is contracted to keep it going FOR-FUCKING-EVER. Her legacy is generations of kids who graduate high school because she sent them books.
And that’s just ONE thing she did, with a legacy that will outlast every one of us.
We ride at dawn.
I can think of other reasons
There's a better life
And you think about it, don't you?
It's a rich man's game
No matter what they call it
And you spend your life
Putting money in his wallet
-9 to 5
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Did you censor the word "bitch" or is this some sort of fucking idiot censorship on lemmy.world? Fucking swear I'll leave this instance at a drop of a hat if it is dumbass censorship. (Edit: It's shitty ass lemmy.ml that's censoring it, which is the above users home instance.)
Words don't need to be blanket censored on the internet. Go ham with moderation but censoring words is how we end up with weird phrases like "unalive" instead of what they actually are murder, suicide, and death. Which makes it fucking hard to talk about fucking real god damn mother fucking problems people are dealing with you corporate bitch ass shills.
I had the same thing on another comment when I quoted the pope and I got downvoted because morons thought I self censored instead of the instance doing it.
I just tested commenting ass somewhere else and it was not censored.
EDIT: No censorship here either, this time.🤷
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That's a bit fucking dumb to reciprocate censorship, but also it would be hard to stop that functionality as well. But yeah I logged out and checked and my comment is 100% intact. Should defederate from .ml and put them on an island. Editing my comment to make it clear what idiot instance is the issue.
I'm actually mostly surprised by the nerdcore hip-hop call out. I just assumed the genre melded with mainstream.
I'm sorry for all the dolly fans out there, but I have a confession... I don't care for her music.
But I will defend this woman simply because her charity work alone makes her deserving of much more.
And I know I don't even know half of what she does.
So if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go sharpen up my torches and light my pitchforks, because ain't nobody dissing dolly Parton around me.
Most people don't like Dolly for her music. It would be hard to get so many people to agree on one artist based on their music.
But anybody saying she's a bad person is just flat wrong or just trying to stir shit.
As a non-Dolly music fan, I agree with you wholeheartedly... for now.
But later, if it comes out after she's dead, that she was secretly harvesting puppy blood in her basement or abusing handicapped kids for decades or some other crazy awful thing, I'll have to re-evaluate. And though I'm not hoping for this to be the case, it just seems like that's exactly the type of shit this timeline would do to us. Guys I think I'm losing hope for humanity. Dolly save us all.
A little bit of hope for you: people have been trying to tear Dolly down for years; if anything like what you fear existed it probably would have been dug up by now.
She's 78 years old and she's been in the public eye for almost 60 years, and she's been pretty upfront about her views and the good that she wants to do the entire time, and putting her money where her mouth is, and somehow some awful people still try to smear her and still can't find anything to smear her with.
Yep. It has nothing to do with her music and everything to do with her being an amazing person who wants to help children with her millions.
She is an incredibly prolific songwriter for other people as well. There's a decent chance you like a song she wrote that is performed by someone else - if that makes you feel any better about your sacrilege (smiley face emoji)
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I’m sorry for all the dolly fans out there, but I have a confession… I don’t care for her music.
I don't care for most of it that much either but as you I can't help respect her.
She was inducted to the rock and roll hall of fame but declined it because she didn't play rock and roll, then they persuaded her to accept it anyway and she got inducted. What does she do? She of course makes a rock and roll album with duets among that a good duet with Rob Halford on Bygones.
Yeah I have nothing but respect for her.
I live in Tennessee. The number of lives that Dolly Parton has changed for the better is immeasurable. The two things you're supposed to do as a Christian are to love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself.
She loves her neighbors more than she loves herself. Anyone talking trash about Dolly is the worst kind of person.
My wife and I recently had a child. We came home the other day to a book in the mail; "The Little Engine That Could". It was sent by a foundation that Dolly either started or contributes heavily to. She chose that book as the introductory book because it reminds her of the struggles her father endured and overcame learning to read. Fuck whoever dispareges Dolly Parton in the neck with a rusty screwdriver.
I swear to god, Dolly Parton is going to enter the Christianity canon. 200 years from now, she'll be part of the Trinity.
I mean, full support, of course.
I hope these people have IBS for a couple of weeks. And during times on the can, use that quiet time to reflect. Praise Dolly. Amen.
Somebody actually woke up one morning & thought, “Man, I know everyone’s convinced Dolly’s such a great person… how can I quickly cement that idea even further publicly & make myself look like an even bigger douche at the exact same time?!”
That's a serious understatement. I'm an atheist, but she's the closest thing to a saint I can think of.
And that only goes up to 2022.
Ah, the Federalist. Too much of a pussy to have been a school shooter. Impotently flinging poo at the rest of us.
Clan member mentality, but lacks the balls to wear a frock, undertips ethnic waitresses instead.
Yes, her destructive beliefs, like, Checks notes... turning the other cheek.
Where does she get these terrible ideas? Probably some book they never read. Book reading is fur libtards.
This was on Lemmy too but very shortly. It got downvoted to oblivion and either removed by the poster or a mod
It's important to see what the nutjobs are saying in context, but it needs to be done in a way that doesn't pay them for advertising.
Nope. The Federalist is a major right-wing media outlet.