I love dating girls that haven't seen anything. Movie nights at home are a great way to chill.
The thing is, the reason I haven't seen anything is because I'm not interested and don't have enough of an attention span to sit through stuff I'm not super into, so any time someone I've dated has been like, "we can watch so many things together!" my response is no thank you.
You're missing out on the hanging out part of it. Cook food together, put the movie on, Talk about anything you two want, pay attention to whatever scenes they really think is cool. It doesn't matter if you pay that much attention to it. You're being together.
I like to have a discussion about the movies I watch during the movie. Sometimes the acting is terrible, or the writing is too unbelievable I just have to say something.
I will stay still and quiet if I must, but that just makes it boring.
How I treat a movie is dependent on the type of movie it is.
For comedies, action movies or cheesy B-movies, I love to have a laugh and trash talk. That's almost the whole point.
For "serious" movies, I want to watch it, then do the talking afterwards.
That's a caveat I inform people of beforehand. I am really into movies, but I have very discriminate taste, so I don't watch very often because movies are generally dogshit. All my friends know, I will watch anything with them, but I'm going to talk mad shit the entire time. This is a really fun group activity in most cases, and often helps less informed people see through the bullshit that is modern media, but sometimes there's someone who doesn't get it, or needs to hyperfocus on the screen.
That signifies to me:
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This person doesn't understand the point of hanging out in a group
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This person falls for blatant marketing
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We will probably not be good friends
I was with you until you started trash-talking people who enjoy media that is specifically designed to be enjoyed.
Can you believe this guy over here is enjoying something that was engineered for the enjoyment of the greatest number of people?!? What a maroon!
It’s also just generally not a good train of thought regardless of the quality of the media or the individual person’s enjoyment.
For instance - my wife struggles to maintain an understanding of the story of whatever she’s watching unless she focuses completely on it, meaning if we want to discuss what we’re watching we pause the TV to discuss and then press play again. If we talk throughout something or she’s on her phone, she misses out entire pieces of critical dialogue or visuals that carry the story and so she ends up not being able to follow it and then therefore doesn’t enjoy it at all, or alternatively she has to ask what’s going on which kinds ruins it for both of us.
It makes no sense to make some weird inference that because of that, she’s somehow more susceptible to marketing or doesn’t know how to spend time with groups of people. Both are definitely untrue. I think it is fair, however, to assume that she probably wouldn’t be good friends with someone who is as judgmental as the previous poster, so at least they got that one right.
I always find it interesting when someone states they don't enjoy an activity and one of the first responses are to subtly guilt the commenter for not enjoying an activity.
I've been losing interest in movies for the past 15-20 years and being guilted into enjoy something I no longer enjoy for someone else's expense does not sound like fun.
Fortunately there are plenty of activities to do together. As you mentioned, cooking together sounds great to me. So does walking in nature. I especially love playing music for each other because I love hearing what other people listen to.
Humans are wonderfully complex and there's plenty in the world to for us to enjoy.
It's like when you tell somebody you're an introvert and they start giving you tips on how to talk to others and "open up" like you're broken.
I've lost interest in movies over time but maybe for a different reason. I far prefer TV shows these days, especially sci-fi and fantasy, because for me the point is the escapism. With movies there's just not enough time for the level of immersion I'm after, with rare exception (Lord of the Rings being the main one, but that was more of a miniseries in movie trilogy form). I want to escape into the world and get to know it, what the rules are there, what it's like to be there.
This is basically my experience too. I don’t really like movies. They feel rushed and empty, and I want to exist within a story for a long time, like video games. And like video games, and books, I strongly prefer sci-fi/fantasy.. tho the type of sci-fi does matter.. the really dystopian stuff is not my jam at the moment, because of the actual world.
Animated movies are sort of an exception for me, in that I do watch those much more frequently than live action, but they tend to tell much more simplified stories, in a visually more approachable way. You can’t immerse for long periods, but it’s a quick fall into it, and generally quite fantastical in nature.
Edit for clarity :)
What about long-running animated movie series, like the DCAMU? Well, it might not be your jam because it gets dystopian at some parts.
Haven’t really managed to get into DC stuff, tbh. I’m sure I have several of the DCAMU but haven’t watched any of them. Their universe is too… all over the place to have ever caught me in the following (lots of reboots/retellings with new cast, which I strongly dislike for immersion reasons)
But often when I find a movie series like that I’ll watch them like a mini-series. I throw them into a collection and watch back to back. Sometimes I’ll do that with live action movie series too, but they are harder to get into. Animated movies can be visually consistent years apart in a way that live action usually just can’t.
Yeah but we can do that without the distraction of a movie or show on in the background. Plus, a lot of people really, really want you to love the thing as much as they do, so if you're not into it, they take it kind of personally, and I'm rarely into it. I don't show people movies I really love anymore (unsolicited) after realizing that I'd spend the whole time worrying about what they think of it instead of just enjoying it.
That's part of the problem for me, I can't only just pay attention to the scenes that I think are cool, because I almost always pay attention to any and all scenes that are in front of me, regardless of whether I like what I'm seeing or not.
Yup. Its more that she just doesn't like movies in general, and our leisure time is not spent in front of the TV.
Although we(our dnd groups) are working on her since roughly 50% of ttrpgs is references to those two or trek.
Yeah imo the only good Star Wars are the first one, The Phantom Menace and then skip all the rest to do Rise of Skywalker
I know someone who takes a weird amount of pride in having never seen star wars.
Like, mocks people for liking "such a childish piece of garbage", has to butt in every time he overhears someone talking about it to let everyone know "I've never seen it and no I won't watch it with you"
So far not a single person I've spoken to has wanted to watch it with him anyway.
Like it's cool if you don't like it, it's cool if you've never seen it, but like.... Come on Bro.
That's why I have no opinion when people around me complain about Rings of Power. I haven't seen it. I don't plan on watching it any time soon, but also partly because I'm afraid I won't like it.
And I don't want to dislike something that's lord of the rings, even if it's just a poor adaptation.
Yea I don't shit on Love and Thunder. I doubt I would enjoy it because I hated Ragnarok and people told me LaT was worse but I haven't seen it so I don't have anything to say about it.
That's a popular thing to do for people who think they're terminally cool. I was like that in my teens and still cringe about how insufferable I was. I know people in their 30s and 40s who went around telling everyone how proud they were that they weren't watching GoT like it was some kind of CrossFit activity.
My goodness, that GoT hype nearly burned some synapses in me, too, though. I'm glad that I'm as far as possible from any TV show watching bubbles, but constantly, involuntarily hearing about it on the internet was still just annoying.
I mean, I agree with them. Star Wars is pretty derivative, but it helped mainstream nerd culture in a way so I can’t complain
It was derivative of space opera in general, but other than Star Wars that genre's pretty much gone now.
Too many people make watching shows and movies their whole personality.
There is more to life than just consuming content from Hollywood.
Or don’t watch stuff made by massive companies. It’s all just made to sell. It’s a product not art.
Find small independent artists and studios and follow and support them.
I like to see stuff on big scale and indie stuff isn't that.
For me, Pacific Rim, Interstellar, or Nope are preferable over A24 movies.
Movies are pretty fun! If you stick to indie films or what’s shown at film festivals, you really get to experience great art. I can’t speak to Hollywood movies though, but I watch some popular action flicks now and again like John Wick or Planet Terror (2007).
Also try non-American movies, it’s refreshing to see different povs to similar themes circumstance. I find that niche old movies are pretty awesome too, but you have to dig for gold unless you go with a trusted review source.
Lastly if you’re having a bad time with movies avoid most things made by Amazon, Netflix etc. I find their most of their writers or directors seldom have any artistic vision beyond just copying what’s been done before.
Yah, they were bullshitting you. Nobody in their 50s that wasn't raised in a bomb shelter hasn't heard of The Meaning of Life.
? Meaning of life is absolutely not what I heard about growing up. Mostly Holy Grail. Once I joined reddit years back I saw life of Brian stuff. I'm not sure I heard of Meaning of Life before you just mentioned it. I actually assumed you meant life of Brian until I googled it. I'm also in IT, and have been since '99.
Nah, the people claiming they've never even heard of Monty Python.
Never seen, sure, heard, no.
I've heard of it but never seen more than clips here and there and a play a girlfriend took me too once. I don't really feel the need to either because it's all been quoted so much that I don't think there's anything left to surprise me. There certainly wasn't in the play. She was kind of pissed that I wasn't hyped about it but I've literally been listening to unfunny people reference all those jokes basically my entire life it's all been beat to death at this point.
Aye, it’s very likely I’ve pretended to not know it at some point in the hope that someone won’t feel invited to start quoting at me.
But then you have to hear about their new Linux distro instead, of course.
I watched Monty Python holy grail after hearing about it so much on the internet. After finally watching it, my opinion was basically that I already watched all the funny parts through random clips and references made in Reddit multiple times. The rest of it was pretty dull and my entire experience as a result was meh. So you might not enjoy watching it either.
I hope you introduced it to them by means of a short parody film:
Programming Languages: Origins
Honestly, I love making friends with people who haven't experienced some of the really incredible pieces of pop culture, because I get to see them react to seeing something incredible for the first time. Your reaction should never be "omg you've never seen this before, what kinda weird alien are you? and more "omg you've never seen this before? okay we have to watch it real soon, it's incredible."
It's only really annoying if the person is some kinda incel who has made it a point of pride to be uncultured and refuses to watch or appreciate good movies/TV.
What about someone who truly does not enjoy watching TV or movies?
I understand I'm in a very small minority. However watching TV shows or movies doesn't interest me at all.
Watching TV or Movies to me is like having stare at a blank wall for 3 hours and forced notice how the faint cracks on the paint spider along it for the entire time. Afterwards I'm supposed to feel like it changed my life or it was somehow an enjoyable experience.
It's absolutely not my cup of tea.
I don't hate anyone for enjoying them either. I'll listen to friends or family talk about things they watch. I enjoy seeing how much they enjoyed watching it. It just doesn't interest me in the slightest.
I've never met someone who doesn't enjoy movies and TV series at least to some degree. What do you not like? Is it fiction, or stories in general? Do you like documentaries? Podcasts? Books and audiobooks? Role playing games? What about music? What kind of stuff do you do for a living? What do you do during downtime and in your free time?
Sorry if I'm coming on a little strong, I'm just very curious.
I'm not a huge fiction person in general, most of the books I read are textbooks/technical manuals or other non-fiction.
Some documentaries are fine, it's highly variable based on the subject matter and how much the director tried to make it "movie-like".
I'm not a fan of music most of the time, I only really listen to it when I'm exercising. It's basically to set the vibe for my brain.
However I do play role playing games quite a bit, which for some reason my brain has decided is not boring.
Podcasts though, make my brain release that sweet, sweet, dopamine drip... I listened to something like 52 days worth of podcasts last year? Again most of the topics are the same as the books I read.
I do consulting, so podcasts fill the void between meetings, if I need to taking a break, or as an escape hatch so if I have a particularly hellish client, I don't fire them.
I don't particularly like having "free time". If I'm not being productive, my brain goes "Ah, I see we decided on depression as our option. Magnificent choice sir!" I basically have to scratch a particular itch my brain wants me to scratch to maintain my mental health.
Which is partly why I'm in consulting, it scratches that itch and I get paid so it's kinda a good gig.
There are two types of people in the world, those who will belittle you for not knowing what they know, and those who will be excited that they get to expose you to new knowledge. Date the second type.
Sometimes you can catch the first type out and flip them to the second, by being interested in what they know.
one of the disney star wars movies the main character goes looking for luke skywalker or something. it was one of the few scenes that wasnt a sweaty shirtless guy. it was a somewhat decent but largwly forgettable movie
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true, I heard it's pretty niche. I just don't remember if it was before they went into Mordor or not
Ooooh yes, and the other way around too. I’ve watched an absolute assload of apparently obscure bullshit, but absolutely never the same obscure bullshit people want me to have seen.
Are you talking about the anime? Because I think any nerdy anime kid in their 30s would have watched that on adult swim.
That’s fair, I am. I never had access to adult swim; I came across it on Netflix when they were first streaming stuff and they got rid of it pretty quickly. Took me forever to track down a copy of it back then, so with nobody I’ve asked knowing what it was, I assumed it was more obscure.
But good to know.
It is a shame it’s fallen through the streaming cracks. I have the DVDs but that requires me plug in something that can play DVDs lol.
It’s obscure to the people I know; I have no other gauge on these things. But in fairness, that is why I put “apparently obscure” in my original comment :)
It’s on my Plex server as well and has been for a really long time, but that’s not unexpected there :p
Have you seen Swiss Army Man? I'm not saying it's the best performance Daniel Radcliffe ever delivered, but it's definitely a performance.
Yes, actually, that movie was really fun!
If you like fantasy series at all, have you ever seen The Lost Room? It’s got a kind of warehouse 13 vibe to it.
Nah. I haven't watched so many things. Even mainstream stuff people consider a "must watch". Thing is, my brain is like a sieve. Sometimes I only remember I already watched a movie when I'm 60 minutes in.
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You should add Miami Connection to your list. Karate rock stars fight against ninja bikers for...reasons, honestly I can't recall the plot, it's just 80s campy greatness.
This is my experience being gen z dating any millennial. I'm honestly jealous that they got to experience films in a more communicative and iconic way.
I think growing up with live TV made a big difference too. All the big movies/shows that were cultural touchstones for generations would be playing on repeat on one channel or another, so millennials would be randomly exposed to them without extra money/effort put in.
Nowadays, I don't know how people who have grown up in the streaming era are supposed to find these movies, short of following a watch list, seeking out the right streaming service, and probably dropping some cash.
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This is a really good point. There are a lot of iconic movies I haven't seen in one go but I've probably caught every scene from family flicking through channels all the time.
I just watched Rio Bravo and realized this was one of those for me. I've seen it tons of times on TV but never all in one sitting. I always thought there was more to the beginning of it.
I agree! I like how we're continuing the thread in a different comment chain. I'm this guy: https://lemmy.world/comment/10422461
It's nice to talk to someone who seeds content. It's been a while.
I can quote stuff from TV that aired in the late 90s, but I can't quote shit I watched last night. For me the distinguishing difference is smartphones. I don't have the attention span to give a TV show my undivided attention anymore, and I'm browsing on my phone while TV plays in the background.
even without a phone, you pick up a lot between 10-20, and then it sticks around forever and you will always feel good about it (or bad or at least some sort of nostalgic), what you watch when you get older must be VERY good to make it onto the accumulated pile. Most just isn't. While when you were young, that mattered less to get onto the forever in your brain pile. Same with video games. No new games will ever get to the same level in your experience as the ones you played when you were young. Even if they're better and the old ones graphics sucked.
While true, these three made a big impact:
God of war 4
Red dead 2
Spider-Man ps4
I guess they were that good.
Same
For some reason I won’t watch dramas, but if you dress one of the characters up in a rubber alien suit and then slap a sci fi tag on that bad boy I’ll eat it up
I was in the same boat. Then I watched "The Offer" last year. It's a really good tv show. It's a drama about the making of The Godfather and you wouldn't believe what it took to get the movie made!
After that I wanted to watch the movie and did. And got so much more out of it.
Sure the show has some movie spoilers but those spoilers are so part of pop culture and you probably know them already.
My gf used to be in that boat. I'm a big film guy. The first few years of our relationship I spent catching her up on the more important things in life.
My GF thought Trek was something her mom watched. Now she's debating the finer points of canon with me because I caught her up.
After 20 years with my wife, I still have weekly “you haven’t seen X?!?!?!” moments with her. The amount of films she hasn’t seen is staggering.
(conversely, the amount of time I’ve wasted watching films is kinda scary)
Of those movies you were shocked your wife hadn't seen, which did you most enjoyed watching with her?
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Probably controversial opinion for some people: I've only ever seen one Star Wars movie (one of the original ones) and some of parts of other movies and I think the franchise is totally overrated.
The movies really aren't anything incredible. Luke loses practically every fight he has, the dialog and CGI in the prequels were horrendous, and the sequels... yeah. I don't think most of them are bad movies, but for how popular it is? I believe Star Wars is held up quite a bit by how cool a large chunk of it is. Vader looks sick af, and laser swords are badass.
But there are some really good TV shows, games, and, from what I hear, comics as well. I think the movies are probably the weakest part of the Star Wars universe.
If you didn't see them as a kid, then you definitely won't understand why they're so popular. When you see them as a child, then they're the coolest thing in the world, especially if you saw them back in the 70's or 80's when they were groundbreaking movie making. What I don't understand is how people continue loving them, like being completely obsessed with them, into adulthood. I wish I could be that excited about them as an adult, but they're pretty juvenile movies for a lot of different reasons.
As I'm born in the late 80's (god, saying that makes me feel so old), it sadly wasn't possible to see them at a time were they actually were considered groundbreaking. The special effects aged very badly, imho. I think it's a lot of nostalgia, especially for people who watched them as kids.
I saw Return of the Jedi in the theater with my elementary school class. It was so badass! There were 20 kids outside the theater after the movie pretending they were swordfighting with the rolled up movie posters that they gave us. I loved the movies for a long time. I even enjoyed the prequels, just to see the storyline, but the new movies don't do it for me at all. The dialogue and writing just seems so lazy. It's a shame too, because they look really cool and have great sound production.
I saw them as a child and found them totally stupid. Wild west pew pew but in space. Not everone who grew up with them loves them. If they were made today, noone would bat an eye over the mediocre story 😁
I legit had a girl i dated in high school and it was basically. "Have you seen ("random show or movie")
And the response if didnt know what it was just.
"WHAT HOW?!?! " The answer is i didnt and still dont own cable and she did. I feel you mate SMH.
The response I hear from most people when you tell them you never really watched the disney movies that apparently everyone saw when they were kids.
Try telling people that you watched the Lion King once only when you were an adult recently and that you didn't like it. They will melt down.
My SO I'm sure makes it a point to mention something that she knows I haven't watched just to say "oh wait you haven't seen that"
I know right? I've been spending way too much time trying to get people here to watch "Barbie" (now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services) for like a year now.
It's a good movie, if you haven't seen it yet, go watch it.
I got a chance to watch it on a cross-Pacific flight. Which is just about the only time I watch movies anymore. I made the right choice! It was far more enjoyable than Meg 2 which I also managed to squeeze in unfortunately.
I have no idea how to even talk to you. I speak mostly in reference and meme! Shaka, when the walls fell.
You've never seen Breaking Bad?
You've never seen The Godfather?
You've never seen Arrow?
You've never seen Pulp Fiction?
You've never seen The Incredibles?
You've never seen Alien?
You've never seen Game of Thrones?
You've never seen Stranger Things?
You've never seen Hook?
You've never seen Treasure Planet?
"LEAVE ME ALONE!"
I was just putting down whatever popped into my head. I watch like 4 things on repeat, I don't know what's popular right now.
Finding Nemo
Lion king
Tarzan
It's not like I'm infinitely well read either. Never read Kafka, or 80% of must read authors.
Mmo brain rot