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Police board to invite rights commissioner to hear impact of cancelling school liaison officer program

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/police-board-to-invite-rights-commissioner-to-hear-impact-of-cancelling-school-liaison-officer-program-8790858

The board plans to invite commissioner Kasari Govender to an open board meeting to hear a presentation from VicPD and the mobile youth service team

Police board to invite rights commissioner to hear impact of cancelling school liaison officer program

Personally, it seems stupid not to have a liaison in high schools. This is where teens establish "bad" patterns, and every single one they manage to save early is one less problem for decades in the future.

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DerisionConsulting

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If an officer is present, the highschool student is more likely to be charged for offenses that happen at school, which means they are more likely to get a criminal record, which means they will have a harder time finding employment, which can ruin lives.

An idiot giving/selling drugs to their friends becomes a life-long criminal or homeless.

BlameThePeacock

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Youth records get sealed unless you do something really bad. It definitely gets sealed for simply dealing drugs.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/yj-jj/tools-outils/sheets-feuillets/pdf/recor-dossi.pdf

DerisionConsulting

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It depends.

Dealing drugs in a school counts as an aggravating factor. Add a knife in the backpack, and you've got another aggravating factor.

You start seeing mandatory minimums of 2 years, which is fed time. That doesn't get removed from your records until at least 5 years after your sentence is over, so at least 7 years. This gets extended if you commit other crimes, which you might, if you can't get a job. That's into "ruining lives" territory, and we're created a lifer.

https://www.ppsc-sppc.gc.ca/eng/pub/fpsd-sfpg/fps-sfp/tpd/p6/ch02.html

Edit: I don't do drugs, but some people were cooler than I was in high school.

BlameThePeacock

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If the cop doesn't catch you, what's the chance you turn your life around before you get caught as an adult?

I'd suspect it's better to get caught, recidivism rates are relatively low in Canada.

DerisionConsulting

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This isn't necessarily someone who "needs to turn their life around." This situation applies to someone who wanted to try ecstasy or shrooms with their friends and listen to EDM, or made a tray of pot brownies.

I am not pro 16 year-olds doing drugs, but lots of kids do drugs without ruining their lives. Most people try something other than booze before they hit 18. Having police in the schools to just hang around is more harm than good.

BlameThePeacock

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And yet your scenario had them dealing drugs and carrying a knife in their backpack.

A tray of pot brownies at home with your friends is not going to get the school liaison officer busting down your door.

DerisionConsulting

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Brownies in a backpack to share after school and a multi-tool is all you need. Even just the brownies at a school.

We're not really going to convince each other, so have a good night.

BlameThePeacock

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Can you show me a single arrest for a high school student caught with brownies and a multi-tool that ended up being a felony?

You fabricate potentials, but where's the reality?