Supporting genocide is just too popular, you can't just not support it
Ah, here we go. The natural enemy of the leftist: the other leftist that isn't lefting right.
Also if you support surrogate pregnancy, don't support surrogate pregnancy, support public ownership media, don't support public ownership media, support sex work, don't support sex work, support UBI, don't support UBI or pretty much any other bit of policy.
Every leftist is Schrödinger's leftist, constantly in a superposition of true leftism and false leftism until they interact with another leftist, at which point they collapse into a false leftist every time.
And then a conservative wins the next election so they can dismantle any leftist policy that has been accidentally introduced and the cycle can start all over again. Nature is a beautiful mystery, really.
Sure but some quantum particles are more stable than others.
Not supporting a neocolonial ethnostate is, to my estimation, a pretty consistent leftist superposition. Maybe the most stable one? Idk it's pretty high up there
This post really rounds out this metaphor, because it's just as infuriating to people who understand the self-defeating nature of leftist purity checks and to quantum physicists pretty much for the same reasons.
If you vote for trump you definitely support israel a great deal more than by voting biden
If you think you're a leftist and that the world is black and white, you're not a leftist
Don't be misled, these are not leftists. It's obvious propaganda from the conservatives, even though maybe some actual leftist drank the kool aid
Speaking of superpositions, this exists in the same space as flat earthers in that there's almost certainly some blend of genuine arguments and trolling but it's impossible to probe which is which.
But all joking aside, the overall point about leftists being susceptible to fratricidal, self-defeating infighting is absolutely genuine, and whatever amount of trolling and hostile propaganda is involved is certainly built on that assumption. If there is something to be learned from this nonsense is that this is a vulnerability and we should be consistently unified about acquiring, supporting and maintaining any remotely left-leaning and/or least right-leaning candidate available in every elected position at every level of democratic governance worldwide as a unified front to make that narrative go away.
The problem with having ideals is that it's difficult to accept you have to stop somewhere. Especially younger people have certainly good intentions, but lack of pragmatism can make it difficult o accept a temporary compromise even when the alternative is a long term catastrophe. But in this case the comparison is between Biden not doing enough against israel and Trump actively supporting it. There is nothing to discuss really. On any other topic Trump is just a plain nazist.
Supporting genocide is just too popular
Well, maybe instead of demanding a candidate to take a losing position and get literally nothing you support, you should work to, I don't know, make supporting genocide less popular in the electorate?
Nah, better to do everything you can to sink the less evil of the two candidates. The greater evil will be fine, I'm sure.
Damn Genociden Biden© doin the damn Genocide™ in a country that he isn't the president of! International politics is a simple and uncomplicated thing and Genociden Biden© could surely stop the Genocide™ by asking Netanyahu nicely to be nice. Netanyahu already said they'd pull out of Gaza if he got a nicely worded letter, why doesn't Genociden Biden© just do it?
International politics is a simple and uncomplicated thing
Idk why you all keep walking into the accusations right on the top line in the memes
Nothing is forcing him to sell your single favorite person weapons for your single favorite activity.
Noting is forcing his administration to go to bat for Netantahu at the UN.
Stop pretending he's powerless just because you're happy that he's using what power he has to enable genocide.
Lol what a stupid comment.
Stop pretending you understand how foreign policy and appropriations work, you clearly have no idea.
You can't defend Biden's support for genocide, so you employ gaslighting and abuse instead.
You seem to think the genocide started right after October 7th so you make vapid comments about Biden supporting genocide and use it to justify aggressively working to get Trump elected president.
Instead of acknowledging that international relations are really really hard, that every American president since Israel became a country has supported the genocide of Palestinians (including your boy Trump) and your lack of understanding around the issues you make inane comments trying to make paint Joe Biden as a omnipotent dictator that has unlimited power to control every other country on earth. I also find it interesting you spend a lot of time trying to suppress the vote for Biden in order to get Trump elected because you care oh so much about genocide, but you never use your soap box for divestment from China to stop the genocide of the Uyghurs. I'm sure that's just a coincidence though.
You also don't seem to understand what gaslighting is, which I guess is another trendy buzz word your picked up and decided to work into your vocabulary.
justify aggressively working to get Trump elected president.
Genocide supporters interpret all opposition to their single favorite activity to be support for Trump.
Instead of acknowledging that international relations are really really hard,
And more gaslighting. "We have to support genocide like I want because it's too complicated for you to understand. It's not unconscionable. It's advanced."
that every American president since Israel became a country has supported the genocide of Palestinians
"That's the way we've always done it" is a shitty excuse for supporting genocide. And I would like you to provide a source for Jimmy Carter supporting the genocide of Palestinians.
and your lack of understanding around the issues you make inane comments trying to make paint Joe Biden as a omnipotent dictator that has unlimited power to control every other country on earth.
I didn't say that. I said he's supporting genocide. I already explained what he can do to stop supporting genocide. It was such blasphemy to you that you launched into what I correctly identified as gaslighting and abuse.
but you never use your soap box for divestment from China to stop the genocide of the Uyghurs. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence though.
We're not selling Xi weapons for genocide, nor are we running interference for him at the UN. I think we should divest from China and should be more outspoken regarding their long history of human rights abuses. But this thread is about the genocide in Gaza. Take your whataboutism elsewhere.
You also don’t seem to understand what gaslighting is
Ooh. Recursion.
Instead of acknowledging that international relations are really really hard,
I don't think the neocolonialism or the genocide parts of it are hard, and I think most people would agree I'm not that smart
maybe instead of demanding a candidate to take a losing position
TIL actively supporting a genocide is a winning position for democrats.
TIL actively supporting a genocide is a winning position for democrats.
Do I have to explain to you how democracy works?
"Most Americans don't pay close attention to foreign affairs and some 50 years of steady pro-Israel propaganda funded by the Israeli state has entrenched views to the point where the past ~20 years of intensified genocide barely raised a blink in the general population; the current propagandized pro-Israel depiction of the genocide, relying on the atrocities of October 7th, still holds sway in a large percentage of the electorate, as well as the notion of Israel as the 'only democracy in the Middle East'."
Would you like me to chew that sentence up and spit it in your mouth, or is that simplified enough for you to understand as-is?
Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn't understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.
Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.
Oh, okay, so the overwhelming support for Israel's genocide these past 20+ years is just, what?
Please, tell me what the previous support for Israel's genocide was. I'm interested in hearing what exactly you think it was, if not looking at a genocide and not recognizing it.
Oh, okay, so the overwhelming support for Israel’s genocide these past 20+ years is just, what?
Bi-partisan American propaganda.