FireFox and all of the forks breaks within 2 months
Sounds like a skill issue to me, guy
My only issue with Firefox is some extensions get a little fussy in-between updates, but it seems to be a Linux issue more than a Firefox one.
And my problem is most definitely a skill issue.
The big one is task (thread) isolation. Let me dig up some sources and get back to you,
I forgor. This is the post I was referring to. It’s well-researched and quite fascinating, actually.
I was running into a blue screen ONLY when using Firefox.
A month later, I decided to make sure one of my memory sticks was fully seated. Issue resolved.
Yeah, Firefox works fine for me, problem is a good number of websites on the modern web just actually do not work correctly on Firefox because theyre designed by lazy morons.
Sometimes this can be fixed by just spoofing it and presenting as chrome, other times not.
In Opera's defense, I have considered installing it for its game recommendation thingy alone and not actually using it as a browser, simply because modern online game stores basically recommend either massively marketed stuff or seemingly completely random 5 dollar trash, or stupid meme game that is extremely popular right now that is basically also trash and is forgotten about when Twitch moves on to the next thing.
In the past I remember Opera's game thingy actually being decent. Any current users that can attest to this?
I have been using firefox for close to ten years and somehow I never encountered a website that didn't work at all.
It depends on what websites you frequent. The vast majority work fine (though they are still heavily optimized for Chrome and not much else), but there are some exceptions like publishers of educational material or other websites with overzealous ideas of web based DRM. I've seen some banners that straight up tell you "You need to upgrade to a proper browser" and then link to the Chrome installer...
Yeah, its not that the entire website won't work, it'll be some vital part of it.
Various Federal and State and Local government websites will have a captcha that just doesn't load, or have a search map or filter system that bugs out and doesn't work.
Happens with a good number of slapdash apartment websites too, and some smaller businesses.
Theres a few things I have to regularly use that just do not actually work on Firefox so I have to keep Chrome around... =(
Again though, sometimes you can get them to work by just using a browser spoofing addon to tell the website that you are actually Chrome. Which is insane because... basically that means theyre just intentionally making Firefox not work even though it does.
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Apple Business Manager and JAMF both will refuse to work in Firefox for me. GoDaddy frequently complains too.
Dude is smoking crack. I've been using firefox for, shit, I don't even know how long, but it's gotta be creeping on at least fifteen years. Feels like forever any way.
Never had any kind of problem like he's yakking about. Not once.
I've been using Firefox since it was Mozilla Navigator and I can't say I've ever had "Piece of shit always broken" with it unless you count websites these days building with Chrome in mind, in which case I don't blame Mozilla.
That's my experience as well. Maybe it has more trouble on Windows though. I haven't had much experience with it there.
I've been using it regularly since (I think) one of the 0.9 Betas that came on the CD bundled with a magazine I got from my local library.
Literally never had to deal with issues OP is dealing with
Only time I’ve had an issue with Firefox requiring >5 minutes of diagnosis was when a shared library was deleted during a freeware uninstall. What an odd piece of criticism.
Also, brave’s president is right wing, and I dislike that. Like “pls no step on snek” right wing.
Brave, for crypto enthusiasts who like to talk about privacy and security but don't actually have those things or know what they are.
Does it still have advertisements?
I've been using Firefox for like 15-17 years now, I honestly can't even remember when I started, but its never let me down.
I'm no power user with it or anything, but its always done exactly what I needed it to.
Yeah I don't get what they mean by needing a refresher every few days or whatever. I've used it all my life and only crappy websites had me needing to switch to another browser.
I completely forgot about having to use a different browser for bad websites. It's been a few years now, but I think something to do with the SHiFT code rewards between Borderlands 2 & 3 was the last time I had to use a different browser.
Yup, and aside from Firefox for Android, I don't remember the last time I needed to "refresh" Firefox, and even on Android, I only need to do it like once/year.
It's really a non-issue.
Firefox actually doesn't break. And it's also not Chrome with a layer of paint. So that's the obvious solution. Degoogled Chromium is the other.
It 100% can break due to updates. I've had compatibility get broken out of nowhere before, it's rare but it does happen. Typically it's due to some config change or something with security settings that was changed. Idk. But it does happen and it can be very annoying to fix.
I say this as a loyal Firefox user ever since I got fed up with Vivaldi. I appreciate Firefox for being what I consider the only decent browser currently available but even then I'm disillusioned to it's issues.
The only issues I've had with Firefox is when some websites, like Teams, doesn't "support" it. Even though if you change the browser's identifier (there's an extension for that) then it works fine, they just don't "officially support" it.
I'm also like 90% sure that "we don't support it" is artificial, been meaning to test it.
My Firefox install at the office works fine with Teams but will refuse to load at home. I think it might be a version issue, but I'll try to establish parity to make sure it's not Microsoft being fucky thinking they can shaft anyone using Firefox/Linux outside of the office.
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One workaround has been to spoof your Firefox user agent so Teams believes it's Chrome, and would you believe it the feature worked. I don't know if this trick is still relevant.
This does not work with the message I was encountering, which is what originally made me suspect fuckery may be afoot...
Been using Firefox for what I think is 2 years now, haven't had any major problems as far as I recall.
Yah I don't know what anon is doing to his PC when no one is looking but it can't be good. Firefox for at least 13 years here and never had an issue I didn't cause myself.
ah that is because this is an echochamber and all unliked submissions and comments get deleted. so, you remember weave?
Firefox and all its forks break every two months requiring a refresh every two months
Meanwhile me here with the same Firefox profile since 2017
Brave is basically all of the above. I genuinely don't get how anyone is braindead enough to fall for their "privacy" advertising.
The intro-to-programming instructor at the school I work at loves it. But he also has a GME To The Moon sticker on his PC. Seems to be a beloved instructor
Could you fill me in as to why Brave is only advertiaed as secure? I understand the ads/crypto thing, but if you arent opted into that and just block the ads, is there anythimg else? I also understand its a Chromium browser, but that doesnt mean google has their hooks in it (necessarily).
IDK, their ad blocker seems to work, so that puts it away ahead of the rest of the Chromium browsers.
But uBlock Origin on Firefox is even better, so I only use Brave to test apps in Chromium.
Soo, chromium again… just with a few plugins and crypto shit. Or has brave stopped using those?
Brave and apple are big astroturfers on 4chan. Always running ad campaigns in the form of 'organic comments'.
I will not stand for this Firefox slander! I have been using it for literal decades, and never had an issue with it that was not the fault of the website or a shitty extension. No idea why anon thinks it is unstable
Maybe take a break from the computer. No normal person should have this many opinions about web browsers.
What's up with safari? I used to dislike it but it grew on me. Seems pretty light and quick, and it doesn't ask me to sign into it constantly.
It's totally fine to use, but it's a pretty big pain to develop for. And you basically cannot avoid it, since it's forced on every single iOS user (third-party browsers on iOS are essentially just Safari with a custom UI due to Apple's walled garden policies).
Safari is notorious for adopting open web standards and APIs incredibly late or not at all, leading many to believe that it's holding back the ability for web apps to achieve more native-app like capabilities on purpose. Right now, some major APIs are not supported on iOS, even though they have been on Android browsers for a while. The ability to install web apps locally and have them send notifications finally came to iOS Safari in a pretty half-baked fashion years after it arrived on Android. And that's just one example of many.
It also just behaves slightly differently & sometimes even explicitly off-spec compared to Chromium and Firefox engines in so many small ways that you quite often have to debug strange Safari-only bugs. It's pretty annoying.
This makes more sense to me. The only things I’ve ever made that have to worry about multiple web browsers are basic, static HTML pages that just need CSS and maybe a tiny bit of JS. My biggest annoyance was that it didn’t have a grid view like Firefox did.
What does the web use Bluetooth for? That sounds like a nightmare regardless of whether the browser will let it or not, lol
What does the web use Bluetooth for? That sounds like a nightmare regardless of whether the browser will let it or not, lol
Nothing much at the moment, but that's at least partially due to Apple's lack of support 🤷
Web apps could theoretically do everything native apps can. The only thing you need are APIs implemented by browsers that "bridge the gap" between web apps running in it and the host OS.
A bunch of such APIs including access to talk to Bluetooth devices have been proposed a while ago, but are missing on Safari. Bluetooth is just one example, another is the ability to communicate with peripherals at all (e.g. USB or MIDI or Serial). Those APIs allow for example updating the firmware of a device, reconfiguring it, etc.
The availability of such APIs is just equivalency with native apps and the possible usecases are everything you'd currently need to install a native app for. Imagine for example just going to some website to change settings of your Bluetooth headphones instead of having to download the manufacturer's app. Web Bluetooth also allows finding Bluetooth beacons, which would make for example museum audio guides with indoor navigation possible as a simple website. Etc. etc. 🤷
It's probably when Chrome abandoned WebKit.
I believe there was a version of Safari on Windows but that stopped existing too.
I love Firefox, but it's a bit if an iron skillet, and I really wish they'd drop GTK like the hot pile of shit it is.
To be fair, back in the day Firefox was literally not as good as Chrome. Then enshittification and Google deciding being "evil" was fine...