https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/24/dolphin-dead-gunshots-louisiana-beach/73436572007/
NOAA fisheries said that a dead bottlenose dolphin was found on West Mae’s Beach in Cameron Parish, Louisiana with multiple gunshot wounds on March 13.
Wait till you hear what happens on the factory farms that nearly everyone's meat and dairy comes from. Animals would be lining up for a chance to be treated as well as this dolphin that died at the hands of this bastard.
It’s a livestock’s life that’s more inhumane, not its death. “Riddled with bullets” is undoubtedly more painful than cutting open the superior vena cava.
That being said, what they did to the dolphin is horrible, and I hope they get caught.
If only they all got simply cut along the superior vena cava. I know it would be great if they all had wonderful happy deaths, but unfortunately they simply don't. For example, anyone who eats factory farm eggs has the fact that countless baby chicks are thrown into blenders while still alive on their conscience. It is great when people show what they think happens on those farms because it gives opportunity for people to point what actually is happening. Hopefully, more interactions like this will help to end the hypocrisy of it all.
Look at all the downvotes I'm getting, people absolutely leach onto anything that makes them feel the bad people are the ones who point out how awful these farms are.
You haven’t gotten any downvotes, and your comment is eight hours old. You don’t need to be a martyr to make a point. You’re right that the farming industry is cruel.
I wasn't talking about the potential future downvotes from that comment. I was talking about all the past downvotes that I already got on my original comment.
As an aside, I'm pretty sure that not any amount of downvotes can grant someone martyrhood status.
You got down votes for shoehorning the same tired "but you eat meat!" argument that always gets brought up.
I guess using that logic we must think machine gunning dolphins is fine if we also eat chickens or something, what a dumb take.
That's why you were down voted, you probably picked up a bunch more when you complained about them.
Imagine you go over to someone's house, and as soon as you walk in, you get overwhelmed by the smell of feces. You walk into the living room, and there is a dog in a cage that it barely fits into. The cage is so tight around its body that it is unable to turn around. You realise there are inches of fecal sludge caked into the bottom of the entire cage. Upon close inspection, you realise that the teeth of the dog have been removed. You are told that by removing the teeth, it can't bite. You ask how it doesn't get so sick that it dies, and you are shown a handful of pills that it is given that fight off its infections and diseases.
You are absolutely disgusted, and you rightfully say so. The response of the owner is this, "This is the same tired argument of 'Nobody can have pets!' That always gets brought up."
This is exactly what you just did.
I never said anything about anyone not being allowed to eat meat, but you have been so conditioned that whenever anyone points out how bad factory farms are, you immediately try to defend them by acting like the only possible way to eat meat is to do it that way. This is not because you are an idiot, it is just because of how clever and motivated the bastards that are doing this to animals are. They are able to convince good-meaning, kind people like yourself to fight on their defense whenever anyone tries to chalange them.
There are many people, now, and all throughout history, that eat meat in a way that is not deplorable, but that way doesn't make large factory farms rich, it doesn't put more money into the billionaires pockets. So, they recruited you, and many others to work for them. They are very smart, and they succeeded.
By the way, I have no idea how you've taken anything Isaid to mean that I think it is OK to machine gun dolphins if you also eat chickens. I never said anything remotely like that. I agree whole-heartedly that that is, indeed, a very dumb take.
There is a very good reason why you can't even attempt to explain your justification for factory farms and all you can do it say "...aka the dumbest take".
You have no moral justification, all you have is childish selfishness with no regard for anyone but yourself. Your entire life has lead up to the best you can do is try to tear down compationate people because you think it will give you a temporary feeling of not being disgusting.
You could do better, but first you need to at least want to develop will power and self control. I hope for your sake that you never have to experience the hell that you so giddily inflict on others.
Or maybe don't try to shoe horn the issue in as a non-sequitor and take umbrage when called out?
When people show outrage about the abuse of a single animal, it is in no way "shoe horning" or a "non-sequitor" to point out the massive animal abuse that many people are supporting. I understand that people hate hearing about, but it's still true.
It is 100% you bringing your own agenda without regard or consideration for the discussion at hand. You're not trying to add to the discussion by jumping in and championing your cause without reading the room.
I'm sorry it is so hard for you to make the connection between one abused animal and many abused animals. I don't know what else to say. This is text book cognitive dissonance. Two things couldn't be more related.
I have no idea why you're being downvoted. The fishing industry is possibly the biggest monster in the world and people are just fine with what they can not see. I used to own a sailboat. I can tell say first hand it can be disgusting out there. Ya'll need to watch some documentaries. Thousands of marine animals are being slaughtered right now while you're reading this.
I have no idea why you're being downvoted.
Probably because shooting a random dolphin isn't great
Yeah taking “single dolphin shot repeatedly” to “but what about the fishing industry” isn’t a productive take, it’s whataboutism. They are independent issues, and trying to put focus on one removes the focus from the other
I think it's good to make people connect their disdain for animal abuse to something they can actually do something about
Maybe check yourself before checking others Mr "other races are like different species".
I doubt anybody in here is looking for diet or moral advice from a classic 1800's slave owning racist mindset.
I don't think this is whataboutism in its most deflective form; I think it's, "Why are we concerned about a one-off incident but not looking at the elephant in the room?"
I guess I don't consider things whtaaboutism if it's pointing to something that encapsulates the original issue. These issues are not mutually-exclusive and signal the same problem: It's just asking why people are inconsistent with their outrage. In other words, whataboutism in this context can be effective when pointing out hypocrisy and double-standards.
To contrast, whataboutism as a deflection tends to be a substitute for, "You did it, too! Thus ignore what I did / what I did wrong is justified." Again, this is not that.
Except one (shooting a dolphin repeatedly) is an act of sport or maliciousness, while the slaughter of marine mammals is an issue of the fishing industry. It’s like someone locking someone up in their basement vs the unjust imprisonment for many inmates that happens in the US. One is personal, and specific, one is systemic, happens all the time, and needs to be approached with a broader scope. They are all wrong, but you can’t lump them together because you are generally upset
I think we can absolutely say that industrialized slaughter is objectively worse in terms of the scale of suffering for the victims. We abstract the moral suffering in the fishing farm; but whoa, if someone individually shoots an animal — totally different! At the end of the day, scale is what matters.
Personally I couldn't care less about the assailant's state of mind; what matters is the victim
It's a one time incident. This is like when everyone lost their minds when a single turtle got a straw stuck in its nose. I'm not saying that wasn't a bad thing. Just like I never said someone shooting a dolphin isn't horrible.
But why offer a 20K reward for this while completely ignoring the mass slaughter taking place every day? Talk about unproductive.
That reminds me, gotta make dinner, some nice juicy chicken should do fine!
Gotta pick up some ice cream as well!
"Racism is when you hate animals"
See we can all type stupid shit in quotes and pretend it's what the other person said.
Since we're criticizing each others diets, yall could do more for the planet by not having kids or eating anything at all.
Just saying.
I want to know what the dolphen was wearing, maybe a dark hoodie. Will they release the arrest record of the dulphin? What was the dolphin holding? Why is so much media attention going to this one dolphon? All sea creatures matter. I read the fisherman thought it was his taser and feared for his life, let's see how you react in a dark alley with a young dofin.
Dofin is their word, we really shouldn't be using it at all. Dolphin is the acceptable spelling and term.
I’d really prefer if you used “D***n” instead of typing out the word. It’s kind of jarring to see it out there even in an educational context.
If it was a dauphin that was shot, everyone in this corner of the Fediverse would be cheering.
The only way this story could be more American was if it had been a child dolphin, in a public school.
"The dolphin, a juvenile, had injuries consistent with being shot with a firearm," NOAA said.
Halfway there! 🙏
Folks not from the south treat it the same way a good hunk of Americans treat Europe, think it’s culturally homogeneous, can’t pronounce the name of most towns/cities properly, and believe that we get along and like one another.
As though I’d ever say anything positive about South Carolina or Florida
Now thats just damned well inaccurate, some of us dont think of the south at all except for when we see yous plates. Seriously the only part of the south I care to think about is Arkansas more specifically around little rock since ive got kin there.
Nope Im from SoCal. My dialect and accent are absolutely fucked, got me Southern, northern Appalachia, brogue, and fucken 1800s great laker influences and thats not even accounting for the random hick/redneck influence from the last hundred years.
Seriously the last of my actual blood relatives who lived in Arkansas was just after the civil war, problem is it got past from grandparent to grandchild. Meaning my southern part is at least 150 years out of date, makes me sound like a particularly rural Okie when it kicks in.
Luckily I am largely incapable of transliterating said abomination accent unless im fucken real tired, which I was when I made my previous comment. Also if youre curious on if all of them can be active at once, yes. Its a facsimile of a language.
Or shove a bag of cocaine in its blowhole and claim it was resisting...
Also there's no confirmation as to whether this dolphin was at school.
Nah, if a cop killed this dolphin, they would admit it but claim they thought the dolphin had a gun, get put on paid administrative leave, get cleared of all charges and then go back to work.
We’ve reached level of absurdity in consensus reality that i unironically want to see the media circus involving a cop accusing a dolphin of having a gun.
I for one back the blue.
To be clear though, I mean the ocean, fuck the police capital defense force.
We should have the police fight the ocean for the right to be called “the Blue”, with the Sky coming in with the steel chair
GOD DAMMIT that was the first thing I thought of and I was just about to post it! Post was 6 hours ago, your reply was 44 minutes ago. I was too late.
I hate you, have my upvote.
I thought I was too late to the party as well. It was 5 hours old when I posted, which is usually past most of the engagement.
Off-topic, but it's annoying how Lemmy will grab an image for a post, you go to the article, and can't find it anywhere... wtf?
Bullets slow down exponentially in water. They caught a dolphin and then shot it to death on land.
I wonder about that. Aren't dolphins and whales non-buoyant, in the sense that they sink when they die?
Looking, I find https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-happens-when-whales-die.html
I guess the dolphin may have been at the floating stage?
I'm against the death penalty. But maybe whoever did this to the dolphin should also get to experience what it went through.
Eh, I said what I said when my emotions were high on this. Still against the death penalty though.
If you are for the death penalty when your emotions are high, you are for the death penalty period. People who are against the death penalty don't go on the record in support of the death penalty, because it's a principle, not something that you only stand for when it is convenient for you.
If the death of an animal is enough to make you flip, you're probably going to side with most death sentences since they relate to the murder of human beings.
Someone could murder members of my family, and I would still be against the death penalty, because that's who I am. You're not going to hear me calling for anyone's death, regardless of my emotional state, because I know that doesn't solve anything, and it is bad for our society as a whole.
Alright man, I guess I'm a shit human being that's not perfect and my words don't matter because it seems that you've made up your mind about me as a person from one comment on the Internet.
Want to know one of the reasons why forest fires are so bad in California? It's because we stopped doing controlled burns and allowed places to become so overgrown and dry that the fires go out of control. (Climate change too, but not the point)
My point being is that it's a ridiculous stance to suggest that all life has value to society. This is simply untrue, much in the same way that Elon Musk isn't billions of times more valuable than his employees.
I don't know what to say other than I'm sorry for your family. I will absolutely drop a motherfucker for threatening my family, and there isn't a single argument you can make about that being bad for society.
Unlike the person you're haranguing, I'm all for the death penalty and I would be just fine if it was applied to annoying fucks like you.
OK real shit if you shot and killed a dolphin, why in the fuck would you not harvest the meat? Like when else are you ever gonna get to try dolphin? Obviously I wouldn't personally shoot a dolphin but if I did you can bet your ass I'm gonna try its meat instead of letting it rot
Like the guy that killed the wolf in Wyoming? Surprisingly a lot of people that play around with guns seem to think that life is cheap, They're willing to kill people for lots of reasons, like arguing over parking spaces or whatever. Animal life is cheaper still. When you have a hammer you're just looking for nails, and a dolphin is just another throwaway to shoot at.
Dolphins can rape...so in the 0.000000001% chance that it raped its killer or did some other kind of gruesome attack, I guess that could be the justification.
Not defending it; just trying to answer your hypothetical questions! Lmao
Couldn't it have washed ashore and then someone used it as target practice? Artical says gunshots happened near the time of death.
The authorities likely checked the dolphin's internal temperature to figure out time of death. And if the wounds had been hemorrhaging = the dolphin was alive when it was shot.
This is the same way authorities figure out when a person died and if injuries occured before or after death.
Artical says gunshots happened near the time of death.
Well yeah... gunshot wounds and death tend to be highly correlated.
You can just say you didn't understand the joke. No need to misapply an overused truism.
https://removed/NjzRHyF/IMG-5210.gif
But seriously, humanity is the herpes of planet, Earth. 😤
Who's to say it wasn't another dolphin? Those things are smart and also violent. They probably can figure out how to shoot a gun.
