https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/04/elon-musk-will-sue-australia-for-ordering-x-to-remove-a-hateful-post-by-an-anti-trans-activist/
The billionaire owner is backing anti-trans provocateur Billboard Chris in a battle over
Do it! Burn your money fighting a major government. Then maybe you can be poor and I can never hear about you again.
Unfortunately he's burning the governments money too so I wouldn't be too excited about his constant lawmongering.
I think often cases are won or settled based on who has the most money to keep them going.
Oh please. A government doesn't need expensive lawyers for cases like this, especially if the legal challenge happens in its territory. A simple "lol no" could be sufficient.
yeah that's not how it works. developed countries don't just go "lol no" and expect people to accept that. there's a whole process or else they're just gonna get sued again or lose legitimacy as a government.
Yeah, Australia is a sovereign government, and some foreign company won't just come in and twist its arm. Get real.
I mean, kind of, but still... that's not how it works lol if Elon builds a credible case, they're aren't going to be just "lol no". it's gonna cost tax payer dollars and they're not going to just be "lol no". they'll go through due process. it's gonna go to the courts and it's going to make shit annoying for people. you're trivializing this situation like crazy.
I'm not trivializing the situation, and you're not saying anything new. Let's use other examples.
Google can't use "Gmail" in Germany. Why haven't they sued Germany into forcing them to let them use Gmail instead of GoogleMail?
And remember when Musk threatened to remove Twitter from Europe because of a change in the law? Why didn't he sue in The Hague?
All bark and no bite.
As much as you say the opposite, Australia will "lol no" out of with this one.
you know just because you have a few cases where companies didn't bother doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all. thats a logical fallacy where just because you have examples of one side doesn't mean the opposite isn't true at all. go google companies suing countries and you'll see that companies sue countries and their regulators all the time. seriously.. the term "companies suing countries" yields a lot of articles about companies suing countries over antitrust laws... companies suing countries over environmental laws, etc. companies are allowed to challenge laws in court and when they do, it's taken seriously by legitimate governments...
Dude you don't get to complain about hearing about elon on a sub dedicated to him.
I've actually started using this more regularly recently to help spread the good word here in America, cunt.
Also in the US corporations can sue people for defamation, unlike in Australia.
Under the uniform defamation legislation which applies in every State and Territory, a corporation can't sue for defamation unless it is an “excluded corporation”. An excluded corporation includes a not for profit or a company which employs fewer than 10 people.
Americans really like the idea of being "the most free country" when that's just objectively not true.
Bring it on, crybaby. My country's legal system is pretty fucked, but not like the US, so I expect this may actually backfire on him.
He seems pretty emotionally fragile - can we pressure him into doing stuff? i.e if people start posting stuff on Twitter, such as:
"I heard Elon musk was too cowardly to go and film the ice wall at the edge of the Earth. I bet he's one of those lame libtard round-Earthers"
If enough people chipped in, surely we could make this happen.
Elon Musk would be so cool if he did some of that skyscraper parkour. Not many are brave enough for something as awesome as that. All my friends and I would buy Teslas even at the price before it was dropped if its CEO was that cool.
Big deal. If he ripped a fart in public, he’d sue the mexican restaurant he ate at the night before.
He uses lawsuits to bludgeon because he can afford an unlimited number of them. All because China Inc saved Tesla and made him rich…can’t wait to see him lose it all to BYD (who he smugly laughed at a decade back - who’s laughing now, Chuckles?)
Him and trump are that fucking kid that would yell "oh yeah, well I'll sue you (with daddy's money" because they never had their jaw broken.
"The supreme court of australia judges that australia is innocent. Now pay our court fees sucker." That's a PR move.
I'm not knowledgeable in Australian law. Would someone more well versed be able to hit me with a tldr of how this would work? Does Australia have "free speech" similar to what I understand as an American? Does the government there have the legal authority to make that sort of request? I'm not really worried about whether they should or shouldn't have that authority, or the general ethics surrounding this,I just kind of want to know what the law says
Australia has implied freedom of speech only, and only with respect to political and economic communication AFAIK.
https://www.vgso.vic.gov.au/implied-constitutional-freedom-political-communication
Like many countries Australia has ruled against hate speech in the past and such speech is not protected.
For example the racial hatred act limits speech: https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/racial-hatred-act-what-racial-hatred-act
There are also laws governing content on social media platforms, including both older media standards and newer laws designed to regulate companies such as X or Facebook.
https://www.esafety.gov.au/newsroom/whats-on/online-safety-act
There are other relevant laws to consider as well but while I am a cyber security expert and not a lawyer I don’t expect Musk to have a good time in Australian courts.
If I'm understanding the esafety act correctly, the Australian government has the authority to fine and issue injunctions, which I'm going to assume could lead up to a ban in the country. Seems like a pretty straightforward L for Musk
Injunctions yes, injections no, Australia banned capital punishment in all jurisdictions since 1985.
Americans don't even have free speech. They can only freely speak what is tolerated by the majority lol
Correct. Freedom of Speech does not imply freedom from consequence and only protects you from the government. The State can't tell you what you're allowed say and can't jail you for saying them (outside of a limited band of things that have been thoroughly litigated). However, that does nothing to modify the social contract. If you say something that most people don't like, they're going to get you to stop saying it one way or another.
I mean, you're not going to get arrested for saying stupid shit but I will think you're an asshole
Shouting "I'm going to kill the president of the United States" in front of the White House will not lead to you being arrested, provided you have zero intention to pull through with it? It is nothing but speech after all.
I've no idea how somebody can have so much money, yet still have a face like a sock filled with marbles.
Another worthwhile and fruitful decision from Elmo Nazi. Yes, it’s easy to see why so many considered him a genius.
considering how deep his pockets are; i would expect him to be the beneficiary of the world's efforts to figure out how to live forever.
a future society will be calling him god-king.
He's probably going to upload himself in every neuralink chip installed in some poor rube's brain...then we'll have a whole army of them. Like a racist 'Lawnmower Man'...
Wonderful title. So is he suing all of Australia the country and the dirt in it as a whole or each and individual Australian including the wildlife?
I hate Elon and I hate the person who made the article. People can hate two things at once.
