https://indyweek.com/news/wake/raleigh-cops-tell-judge-that-allowing-the-public-to-see-footage-of-a-botched-raid-would-be-dangerous/
Raleigh cops told a judge that allowing the public to see body camera footage of a botched raid of a local family's home would be dangerous.
The RPD pointed out that an attorney for the Abbouds had released home security footage of the raid online, which the police said made releasing the body camera footage redundant. At the same time, the RPD claimed that releasing the body camera footage might expose confidential information about search warrant execution or damage officers’ reputations.
You busted in a door and pointed an AR-15 at a baby. Your reputation should be fucking damaged.
Raleigh police “wrongfully executed a ‘Quick Knock’ warrant”—meaning they kicked in the door before the Abbouds had a chance to open it[...]
This is just a no-knock raid. Let's not pretend knocking on a door a half second before pulling out the battering ram is some magical third category of warrant: no-knock raids should be banned, and whatever the fuck these cops did should be considered a no-knock.
Somehow the "your honor, the evidence will damage my reputation" seems to be work quite well when you're a cop or millionaire.
I went to their Facebook page and nobody in Raleigh seems to even know this happened.
Every time we make a rule they make up some new bullshit to keep doing the things we banned.
Blame the Supreme Court. THEY are the dudes making up rules that let cops (and government officials) off the hook. Rules that don't apply to you.
Man, the world has gotten to the point where obvious logical inconsistencies don't even register as surprising anymore. Somewhere in my brain I still know that they should but I'm so desensitized to them that I can't even laugh about how absurd they are.
Hate to break it to you, but the world has always been full of logical inconsistencies and you are just more aware of them as more information has become available.
I'm well aware of that. That doesn't change the fact that I was raised to expect them to be dealt with rationally once recognized. Most of us were.
Being told that anything will be dealt with rationally is actually one of the logical inconsistencies.
OK Mr. Contrarian. You're right and I'm wrong. Now that we've established that please find something interesting to contribute to the discussion or move on.
I didn't spend 7 years on my doctorate in contrarian studies to be called mister!
My response was supposed to be agreement. Maybe it needed to be phrased differently, but I was agreeing that it was yet another thing that we are told that doesn't match reality to anyone paying attention.
lol fair enough. This response was funny either way so all is forgiven. Apologies if I misunderstood your intent.
"We can't release the footage, it would be dangerous."
But the family agreed to release it.
"Not dangerous for them, dangerous for me!"
Whole thing seems like a poorly written SNL skit.
And how the fuck can this judge decide “it has no public interest?” That shouldn’t be something one person gets to decide.
They did, but - if you listen to it, you'll find that your point still stands. :D
(I suspect the song is ^not^ actually about the Fire Department.)
Heh. There's been case studies of that literally happening, but it's always been one member likes fire too much, not systemic.
Lol made me imagine firemen standing next to a burning house and drenching the one next to it with their hoses.
Firefighters pull up to a black family's home, burn it down, and charge them with arson.
Dangerous for their ability to keep their jobs and reputation.
Skill issue + ACAB
It's very dangerous for them to expose their complete and repeated incompetence to the public. One of these days the public might even think that cops might be capable of doing something wrong.
the RPD claimed that releasing the body camera footage might damage officers’ reputations.
RPD attorney Sherita Walton said that the raid was “valid on its face” and insisted that none of the officers did anything wrong.
State Bureau of Investigation agents confused Abboud with a neighbor who is also of Arab descent—the police refused to pay for the damage
abolish the police. We don't need these gangsters breaking down our doors like that in our community
It's one step from abolishing the police to opening up your door to thieves and asking them to shoot up your house
You people look at a post and automatically apply it to every station around the country. Sorry to break it to you bud, but most cops train long and hard to protect the people they love, and have spouses and kids of their own. After defunding them all to the state of being mall cops, who is gonna come and save you from being shot the local rapist, mugger, or crackhead?
Six months training is long and hard?
who is gonna come and save you from being shot the local rapist, mugger, or crackhead?
The police are not obligated to protect and serve.
Well I am assuming like myself many of us have first hand experience with the police doing us harm instead of good.
So here's the thing: why do the police automatically close ranks and protect these abuses? Police unions, and even just regular PDs in small towns and big cities alike, will almost always close ranks around any sort of investigation into officers that abuse their power, or are accused of bad behavior. Why? If they really wanna "protect their loved ones", shouldn't they instead NOT tolerate abuses? Should they not, instead, strive to bring abuses to light, so the remaining officers can all hold each other accountable to that higher standard?
Additionally, I really take umbrage with the use of the word "defunded", because what we usually mean is a little more complex - however, "the police in Millville, OH don't need an armored personnel carrier and a crate of rifles and level IV plates all the time to protect their town of less than a thousand" doesn't quite fit on a protest sign, and neither does "we shouldn't be sending the police in to do things like wellness and mental health checks which they're ill-equipped and ill-trained for", or even "maybe not every situation should be immediately met with deadly force at the slightest inconvenience." Moreover, if we do agree with your "protect and serve" mindset, shouldn't the police WELCOME the help of a trained wing of people to deal specifically with things like suicidal tendencies, wellness checks on the elderly or the mentally unwell, and other situations that might escalate with the presence of an armed person shouting instructions at them?
Funny thing is that cops have told people to give into thieves making an already shitty argument even more moot.
https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front-door-to-avoid-home-invasion-toronto-police/
So if one dude in Toronto recommends that having your car stolen is better than having your house trashed, it means that cops in general tell you to give in to all the thieving?
It's more a systemic thing, where they refuse to do their jobs but try charge you if you do it for them, they act more like a protection racket than a police force.
My town is a frequent target of ne'er do wells, as the police do not have any real coverage here. My car was pilfered again just 2 days ago and the police do nothing as of now. I know at least two of my neighbours who would take shots at these thieves if not for the police. As it stands people here don't fear the criminals but the police, the ones stealing know they are more likely to be protected by the police then their victims.
We live in clown world, and the cops are holding up the big top.
If enough "dangerous" body camera footage got out, someone might finally do something about it.
I don't know anything about this, so forgive me if I'm being ignorant, but is there some way to hack the footage and post it online?
There's always a way. It'd likely be through social engineering rather than technical means. All comes down to having a Snowden-like person willing to put themselves at risk of prosecution to pull it off.
Man, these cameras sure sound dangerous.
I mean, what are the poor police supposed to do? Not be a bunch of cunts? That's not why they got into this job!
"Releasing the footage might harm their reputations."
Don't you just station your troops in a different district and call it a day?
it will be fucking dangerous, yes. Professional suicide, even! And I like being the law, cuz it means you ain't.
