Yeah I really don't understand how people have a such a bad experience on here. I think I have had one asshole who argued with me, in over seven months spent here. And even that guy was mostly just condescending as fuck instead of outright throwing insults. Everyone else is just the normal kind of argumentative that I am myself as well.
Yeah honestly the people at Lemmy are mostly great.
I think the difference is that the people on Lemmy seem in general to be smarter than other places, generally people actually seem to want to discuss rather than argue.
Not that there aren’t dumb assholes on Lemmy. I mean, I’m here.
To me it just means people are more eloquent about their transphobia or their rationalization of genocide 🙄
I haven’t seen a lot of transphobia here.
The genocide rationalization is an issue I’ve noticed.
Just a heads up, whoreticulture is going around trying to drum up trans hate by pretending like they are trans and then being an awful person. You may not want to take the bait.
Wow lmao I can't believe you straight up just believe that, I am guessing you're a terf too? idk. anyway this is some of the transphobia I was talking about. This user didn't like what I was saying because I called them out as spouting terf rhetoric, and they started calling me a fake trans person trying to make trans people look bad.
It's nice that lemmy is small enough that you start to recognize the troll usernames. I once got FederatingIsTooHard to admit that he was HACKthePrison's alt, two well known trolls
I find everyone pretty civil 99% of the time. But the times their uncivil kinda counterbalance that by a lot. For instance, every time where I mention I'm a woman, suddenly a mysterious amount of down votes appears on every single thing I've said in that thread, and on occasion I even get horrific hate comments I'd never receive under normal circumstances.
Like, I've said some horrifically stupid shit and just been gently corrected all of the time, except if people know I'm a woman and I say something they even slightly disagree with. Then immediately every single person under the sun descends to tell me what a dumbass I am. Luckily that in particular hasn't happened so much recently, but the down votes showing up any time I say I'm a woman is still a persistent issue.
I'd totally understand it in this case though. My complaints only have vaguely to do with anything. I just take any opportunity to vent about feeling like an outsider on the one social media platform I'm still willing to use.
More related though is I've given up trying to discuss women's issues at all on Lemmy (not that I've stopped bringing them up, just stopped bothering making a discussion out of it.) Doesn't matter where or how I bring it up, doing so immediately floods in the most vile replies I've ever seen. There seems to be a weird preconception around here that if you're pro woman you must be anti man.
with full respect, probably not lmao. :) lemmy is small but there’s a lot of diversity of activity going on.
i mean fuck it, your instance name is literally yiffit.net. best not call into question other people’s expression of lived experience without evidence 👍
I've seen this without the slur, but it's still weird that people are out here trying to redefine specific, well-defined, unambiguous, basic, and universal English terms. Not as a metaphor, not even as a bit, or attempted point (luckily, as it wouldn't have been a good one), just using a term in a way apparently nobody else ever does.
I was discussing with somebody about privilege IRL. They told me they didn't believe the word "privilege" existed. I was like do you want to use a different word? They were like no, the word and concept just doesn't exist.
I'm very sure this person was just an idiot and didn't have malicious intent. But still, wow.
out of fairness, they might have had malicious intent (edit missed that this was IRL, my bad. this comment probably doesn’t apply to your situation apologies. leaving it up with this disclaimer as i think it’s valuable)
language has a lot of power. the ability to accurately describe one’s condition and identity is absolutely required in order for organization, and therefore change, to happen.
that’s why conservatives get so worked up over gender pronouns and words like “cisgender.” they are well aware that a community that is denied language to describe itself is nothing more than a set of individuals.
if you deny the word “privilege” then you deny by extension the word “unprivileged” and then you are left without a word for the millions of people lacking basic education, income, housing etc to describe themselves.
(im vaguely aware this was the plot to that one george orwell novel)
"One must live in a privileged position to believe privilege does not exist."
— Me, just now.
yes! thank you for this analysis.
besides the casual bigotry, the wanton disregard for useful semantics is exactly what i wanted to call out as it seems especially unique to internet spaces.
Comment - (This) would solve a lot of problems for millions of people
Lemmy user - Yes but I've thought of an incredibly niche situation where that would negatively affect one person in ten million so you're just pure unadulterated evil
„Why would you use it like that?“
„It made sense to me, sorry if that was wrong.“
Slur
Is how I perceive it.
Why would you think like that? No one on the internet (especially OP) would apologize for potentially being wrong smh.
Tbh that's been my experience as well. Either that or:
"Why would you use it like that?"
"What do you mean? I just used it the same way you did to confirm that I agree with you"
*slur*
Why would you say that? I think it's exhausting and you come here to question me! *slur*
Just kidding. Yeah, it is. Thankfully it doesn't happen that often.
Lemmy Pro Tip: After 2 replies you can usually tell if the conversation is going anywhere productive. If it's not, then tell them as such in your 3rd reply, wish them a pleasant day, and move on with your life.
English is my second language, thank you for the opportunity to learn and I hope you have a wonderful day
Everything has happened before, everything will happen again. Shit people aren't a fault of reddit, or facebook, or whatever will come after lemmy. Shit people will always be.
I have someone tagged as 'argued home v house; is twat' to remind me they started an argument that boiled down to them not agreeing that a house is equal to a home, and at that point I think I told him to sit on a cucumber, downvotes him, and tagged him so I know never to engage with the twat again.
oh damn. i had a similar conversation! i don't use whatever app it is that lets you tag people so i don't do that.
the two i keep running into are "harm reduction" and "fascism", but "tautology" had a minute in the sun last week..
this is not an invitation to share your (incorrect) opinion on these terms.
yeah we have had the conversation around harm reduction two or three times you and i lmao
carry on
